HTC phones held up by Apple's ITC injunction begin trickling into US

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  • Reply 21 of 41
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    fletchg wrote: »
    Apple has failed with their Apple TV - not having analog jacks for my super expensive stereo...

    You could run HDMI into your cheap TV then run cheap analogue cables to your stereo, personally I prefer optical straight from my ATV to my receiver, with coax from the TV.

    MusicMatch pumps, all the way to 11.
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  • Reply 22 of 41
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    hill60 wrote: »
    You could run HDMI into your cheap TV then run cheap analogue cables to your stereo, personally I prefer optical straight from my ATV to my receiver, with coax from the TV.
    MusicMatch pumps, all the way to 11.

    I'm picturing this guy with a system he bought in the late 70s that was super expensive and top of the line. Unfortunately tech usually does not age well.

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  • Reply 23 of 41
    macbook promacbook pro Posts: 1,605member

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    Originally Posted by FletchG View Post


    I got the new HTC One X three days after it came out.  My contract with AT&T was up and well, HONESTLY... I was just getting tired of waiting on Apple for the next generation iPhone.  This HTC ONE X phone is AWESOME.  4.7 inch high res AMOLED screen.  Thin as hell.  Fast as hell.  Love it.  This is my second HTC phone.  Last model was the Aria.  But this one rocks.  And it comes with ICE CREAM android system too.


     


    Apple has failed with their Apple TV - not having analog jacks for my super expensive stereo... and being really SLOW to MARKET with new products such as their phone.


     


    They also don't provide back up DVDs/CDs or a back up USB drive.  I put in new hard drive in Macbook Pro and had to buy a $70 USB key from the apple store.  Hello.  This should have been FREE.  Apple is not providing a way to recover after incidents. 



     


    I am very glad HTC was finally able to manufacture a smartphone that can compete with Apple iPhone 4S.  Unfortunately for HTC, iPhone 4S is already seven months old and a new iPhone is expected within a few months.  I am not surprised that HTC was the company that could finally challenge the Apple iPhone 4S though, HTC is easily the second best smartphone manufacturer today.


     


    The HTC One X 1280 x 720 2nd generation LCD "Infinity Screen" is exceptional but not AMOLED as you note.  At an amazing 312 ppi, the "Infinity Screen" provides astounding "Retina Display" level resolution like the Apple iPhone 4S (326 ppi).


     


    The HTC One X is exactly the same thickness as iPhone 4S which, while not the thinest smartphone available is impressive.  The link on the HTC website indicating the thickness of the HTC One X as 9.3 mm has been removed.  The weight of the HTC One X is fantastic at only 130 g (4.6 oz.) and compares favorably to the iPhone 4S at 140 g (4.9 oz.); quite stunning for a premium LTE enabled smartphone with excellent battery life and sturdy construction.


     


    The HTC One X CPU, a 1.5 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Krait wtih 1024 MB RAM is impressive with arguably the best performance available in a smartphone.  Unfortunately, the Qualcomm Adreno 225 GPU performance doesn't quite match the incredible CPU performance.  The HTC One X doesn't quite meet the challenge set by the Apple iPhone 4S.  Truly saddening considering the importance of GPU performance to a touch user interface.  Notably, the HTC One X is arguably the best performing GPU available in an Android-based smartphone.  Significant latency has been noted with some apps including Temple Run and Samurai II: Vengeance.


     


    I will happily recommend the HTC One X to anyone who wants the second best smartphone available.  Frankly, if the HTC One X had a reasonable cloud services offering this would probably be the highest rated smartphone although the reported issues are slight cause for concern.  The HTC One X does have some significant shortcomings that must be considered though:


     


    Immature cloud services with only device backup and remote management


    Inconsistent software updates are the norm, hopefully HTC can manage better in the future


    Latency for certain apps (apparently GPU intensive)


    Malware infestation


    Notifications for texting are not functioning for some users


    Mediocre customer service (though tied for best of Android-based smartphone manufacturers with LG)


    Poor digital media store


    Wi-Fi connectivity issues

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  • Reply 24 of 41
    ifij775ifij775 Posts: 470member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    I'm picturing this guy with a system he bought in the late 70s that was super expensive and top of the line. Unfortunately tech usually does not age well.

    LOL
    That's one dynamite stereo
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  • Reply 25 of 41
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    I am very glad HTC was finally able to manufacture a smartphone that can compete with Apple iPhone 4S.../snip

    HTC has to compete with Samsung and forget about Apple.

    That 70% drop last quarter primarily made it's way into Samsung's coffers.
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  • Reply 26 of 41
    drdoppiodrdoppio Posts: 1,132member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FletchG View Post


    I got the new HTC One X three days after it came out...



     


    I see you're new here. In case you stick around, keep in mind that off-topic whining and transparent marketing aren't appreciated here. Besides, one would have to be an idiot to get info about an HTC phone from an Apple enthusiast forum.


     


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    Originally Posted by MacBook Pro View Post


    ...


    The HTC One X is exactly the same thickness as iPhone 4S which, while not the thinest smartphone available is impressive.  The weight of the HTC One X is fantastic at only 130 g (4.6 oz.) and compares favorably to the iPhone 4S at 140 g (4.9 oz.); quite stunning for a premium LTE enabled smartphone with excellent battery life and sturdy construction.



     


    The thickness of HTC one is 8.9mm, vs. 9.3mm for the iPhone 4S. That's a difference of 0.4 mm or roughly 4.5%. If the HTC was 9.3mm thick, its volume would increase by the equivalent of 27.5 micro SIM cards.


     



     


    The HTC One X CPU, a 1.5 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Krait wtih 1024 MB RAM is impressive with arguably the best performance available in a smartphone.  Unfortunately, the Qualcomm Adreno 225 GPU performance doesn't quite match the incredible CPU performance.  The HTC One X doesn't quite meet the challenge set by the Apple iPhone 4S.  Truly saddening considering the importance of GPU performance to a touch user interface.  Notably, the HTC One X is arguably the best performing GPU available in an Android-based smartphone.  Significant latency has been noted with some apps including Temple Run and Samurai II: Vengeance.



     


    Curious that you mention Temple Run; HTC must have dropped the ball if it lags on the One X, when it runs quite smoothly on a single core 1GHz CPU with a significantly older GPU. I looked around the net to find info about this, but could only find positive reviews, including this one mentioning specifically Temple Run: http://www.itnews.com.au/Review/297129,review-htc-one-x.aspx


    Perhaps you have a link to your source of information?


     



    I will happily recommend the HTC One X to anyone who wants the second best smartphone available.  The HTC One X does have some significant shortcomings that must be considered though:


     


    Immature cloud services with only device backup and remote management


    Inconsistent software updates are the norm, hopefully HTC can manage better in the future


    Latency for certain apps (apparently GPU intensive)


    Malware infestation


    Notifications for texting are not functioning for some users


    Poor customer service (though tied for best of Android-based smartphone manufacturers with LG)


    Poor digital media store


    Wi-Fi connectivity issues



     


    Interesting where you found specific information about malware infestation, not working notifications, or WiFi connectivity issues with the HTC One X? Care to share your source?


    I was personally most impressed with the camera of HTC One X which I had the pleasure of testing myself. Those interested in a comparison to iPhone 4S can have a look at this review: http://www.businessinsider.com/htc-one-x-camera-vs-iphone-4s-camera-a-side-by-side-comparison-2012-5

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  • Reply 27 of 41
    macbook promacbook pro Posts: 1,605member

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    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post





    HTC has to compete with Samsung and forget about Apple.

    That 70% drop last quarter primarily made it's way into Samsung's coffers.


     


    I disagree somewhat.  I understand that HTC is being crushed by Samsung but in my opinion, HTC is in a class above all other Android-based smartphone manufacturers.  Will Android proponents recognize an excellent smartphone when they see it?  Will the HTC One X sell as well as it deserves to?

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  • Reply 28 of 41
    fairthropefairthrope Posts: 249member

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    Originally Posted by MacBook Pro View Post


     


    I disagree somewhat.  I understand that HTC is being crushed by Samsung but in my opinion, HTC is in a class above all other Android-based smartphone manufacturers.  Will Android proponents recognize an excellent smartphone when they see it?  Will the HTC One X sell as well as it deserves to?



    If Samsung is Toyota, HTC is like Lotus. High performance but very low volume and struggling to make profits.


     


    Well, it was great while it lasts.

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  • Reply 29 of 41
    fairthropefairthrope Posts: 249member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MacBook Pro View Post


     


    I am very glad HTC was finally able to manufacture a smartphone that can compete with Apple iPhone 4S.  Unfortunately for HTC, iPhone 4S is already seven months old and a new iPhone is expected within a few months.  I am not surprised that HTC was the company that could finally challenge the Apple iPhone 4S though, HTC is easily the second best smartphone manufacturer today.



    Agree with that. BUT, Apple and its fans may have to accept that Android tide cannot be held any longer. They are in and now established. Just forget the court cases and go back to making a new iPhone.


     


    The battle for first-timers and low budget bracket is over, Android wins. Apple should focus on keeping their intermediate and luxury sections.

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  • Reply 30 of 41
    forjatforjat Posts: 2member


    YES but that is neither here nor there. I want to see someone RE PATENT someone else's invention in new words the power off and on system call it innovation and demand an injunction. I have nothing against the iPhone all smart phones share similar features as all TVs, all Computers, all MP3 players etc.etc. But what I do have against Apple is that they have turned into what they swore against in the past. Apple is the new MicroSoft and in a a lot of ways worse than MS ever was .... I guess it is the nature of the beast and a necessary evil to be successful these days. But it does not make it right. I think that Apple and MS should merge as AppleSoft. I mean Apple is turning on it's own fan base with the taking of iphone5.com by force. but oh well so is life .... Businesses change every day with Jobs Apple was Democrat post Jobs unannounced meetings with Cook and Boehner, w/Jobs 3.5" is the sweet spot for a iPhone and all other sizes are irrelevant, post-Jobs Iphone 5 to come with at least a 4" screen. w/Jobs the Ipad is the perfect size and do not see the 7" tablets doing anything we wont follow suit. after-Jobs talk about Apple creating a 7" ipad.  Yeah Jobs would be proud ... makes me laugh and think about Al Gore saying he invented the internet and Apple saying they invented the multi-touch. 

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  • Reply 31 of 41
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by forJAT View Post

    I mean Apple is turning on it's own fan base with the taking of iphone5.com by force.




    No, they're not. And no, they're not.


    I'm a locksmith. And I'm a locksmith.


     


    Quote:


    Businesses change every day with Jobs Apple was Democrat post Jobs unannounced meetings with Cook and Boehner





    What does politics have to do with anything? "Apple" is not Democrat or Republican.

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  • Reply 32 of 41
    macbook promacbook pro Posts: 1,605member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by forJAT View Post


    YES but that is neither here nor there. I want to see someone RE PATENT someone else's invention in new words the power off and on system call it innovation and demand an injunction. I have nothing against the iPhone all smart phones share similar features as all TVs, all Computers, all MP3 players etc.etc. But what I do have against Apple is that they have turned into what they swore against in the past. Apple is the new MicroSoft and in a a lot of ways worse than MS ever was .... I guess it is the nature of the beast and a necessary evil to be successful these days. But it does not make it right. I think that Apple and MS should merge as AppleSoft. I mean Apple is turning on it's own fan base with the taking of iphone5.com by force. but oh well so is life .... Businesses change every day with Jobs Apple was Democrat post Jobs unannounced meetings with Cook and Boehner, w/Jobs 3.5" is the sweet spot for a iPhone and all other sizes are irrelevant, post-Jobs Iphone 5 to come with at least a 4" screen. w/Jobs the Ipad is the perfect size and do not see the 7" tablets doing anything we wont follow suit. after-Jobs talk about Apple creating a 7" ipad.  Yeah Jobs would be proud ... makes me laugh and think about Al Gore saying he invented the internet and Apple saying they invented the multi-touch. 



     


    Please link video evidence of Al Gore "saying he invented the Internet."


     


    Considering Apple holds several patents regarding multi-touch user interfaces, an effective argument could be made that Apple did, in fact, invent multi-touch.  Furthermore, as Apple purchased FingerWorks led by John Elias and Wayne Westerman.  Wayne Westerman wrote his PhD thesis about "Hand Tracking, Finger Identification, and Chordic Manipulation on a Multi-Touch Surface" in 1999 with John Elias as his advisor.  We can thusly conclude that Apple has at least as much claim to inventing the multi-touch user interface as any company and is inarguably the first company to market and distribute successful products that feature multi-touch user interface as a marquee feature.


    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/06/22/broad_multitouch_patent_granted_to_apple_seen_as_huge_blow_to_rivals.html


    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/12/27/apple_granted_another_key_multitouch_patent.html


    http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~westerma/main.pdf


     


    Please provide evidence that "Apple have turned into what they wore against in the past."  What did Apple swear against?  What has Apple done that violates what you suggest they have sworn against.


     


    If you came into my house and stole my work then marketed that effort as your own you bet your @$$ I would "go thermonuclear war" on you.  If anyone suggests that they wouldn't then they don't understand the value of ideas.

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  • Reply 33 of 41
    forjatforjat Posts: 2member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MacBook Pro View Post


     


    Please link video evidence of Al Gore "saying he invented the Internet."


     


    Considering Apple holds several patents regarding multi-touch user interfaces, an effective argument could be made that Apple did, in fact, invent multi-touch.  Furthermore, as Apple purchased FingerWorks led by John Elias and Wayne Westerman.  Wayne Westerman wrote his PhD thesis about "Hand Tracking, Finger Identification, and Chordic Manipulation on a Multi-Touch Surface" in 1999 with John Elias as his advisor.  We can thusly conclude that Apple has at least as much claim to inventing the multi-touch user interface as any company and is inarguably the first company to market and distribute successful products that feature multi-touch user interface as a marquee feature.


    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/06/22/broad_multitouch_patent_granted_to_apple_seen_as_huge_blow_to_rivals.html


    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/12/27/apple_granted_another_key_multitouch_patent.html


    http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~westerma/main.pdf


     


    Please provide evidence that "Apple have turned into what they wore against in the past."  What did Apple swear against?  What has Apple done that violates what you suggest they have sworn against.


     


    If you came into my house and stole my work then marketed that effort as your own you bet your @$$ I would "go thermonuclear war" on you.  If anyone suggests that they wouldn't then they don't understand the value of ideas.



    I will touch base on this when I have more time but FingerWorks did not even invent multi-touch and multi touch was in other projects way before iPhone... 



    A breakthrough occurred in 1991, when Pierre Wellner published a paper on his multi-touch “Digital Desk”, which supported multi-finger and pinching motions.[7][8]


    Various companies expanded upon these inventions in the beginning of the twenty-first century. The company Fingerworks developed various multi-touch technologies between 1999 and 2005, including Touchstream keyboards and the iGesture Pad. Several studies of this technology were published in the early 2000s by Alan Hedge, professor of human factors and ergonomics at Cornell University.[9][10][11]Apple acquired Fingerworks and its multi-touch technology in 2005. Mainstream exposure to multi-touch technology occurred in 2007 when the iPhone gained popularity, with Apple stating they 'invented multi touch' as part of the iPhone announcement,[12] however both the function and the term predate the announcement or patent requests, except for such area of application as capacitive mobile screens, which did not exist before Fingerworks/Apple's technology (Apple filed patents for in 2005-2007 and was awarded with in 2009-2010). Publication and demonstration using the term Multi-touch by Jefferson Y. Han in 2005 predates these,[13] but Apple did give multi-touch wider exposure through its association with their new product and were the first to introduce multi-touch on a mobile device.[14] Microsoft's table-top touch platform Microsoft Surface, which started development in 2001, interacts with both the users touch and their electronic devices. Similarly, in 2001, Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratories (MERL) began development of a multi-touch, multi-user system called DiamondTouch, also based on capacitance but able to differentiate between multiple simultaneous users (or rather, the chairs in which each user is seated or the floorpad the user is standing on); the Diamondtouch became a commercial product in 2008.


    Small-scale touch devices are rapidly becoming commonplace, with the number of touch screen telephones expected to increase from 200,000 shipped in 2006 to 21 million in 2012.[15]


    Some of the first devices to support multi-touch were:


     


     


    Apple by way of buying Fingerworks was the first company to bring a non stylus multi-touch screen to a mobile device this I give you but that is a FAR stretch from saying that Apple invented Multi-Touch. 


     


    I have nothing "against" Apple other than their tactics they are reminiscent of MicroSoft suing Apple at every corner


     


    Companies build on the ideas of others ..... One person invents something then another comes along and improves it that is the way it is "supposed" to work but the definition and spirit behind a patent has changed drastically: 



    A patent is simply a license to sue.  A patent grants its owner the right to stop others from "infringing" the patent by making, selling, or using the claimed invention without permission. Coverage does not rely on the accused infringer having copied or derived a product from what was patented - i.e., someone who thought the same thing up independently can still be an infringer. Conversely, someone who copies the basic idea behind a patented product but who comes up with another way of providing the end user with the same benefit is NOT necessarily an infringer. Patents generally only cover what they claim, and every patent is a challenge to other clever people to figure out a different, non-infringing, way of reaching the same goal.



    To me the following is ridiculous 




    -----------Between January 2008 and May 2010, Apple Inc. filed more than 350 cases with the U.S. Patent and Trademark office (USPTO) alone, most in opposition to or taking exception to others' use of the terms 'apple', 'pod', and 'safari': those cases include sellers of apples (the fruit), as well as many others' less unassuming use of the term 'apple'.


     


    ---------Whether the next version of the Apple's best-selling smartphone will be called the iPhone 5 or not, the company apparently covets the domain based on that name.


    In a complaint filed with the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), Apple is challenging the ownership of the iphone5.comdomain name, which is currently used to host a forum for Apple enthusiasts to speculate about the next iPhone.


    According to the directory for domain name ownership, Whois, the owner of the iphone5 domain wishes to keep her or his identity private, but the owner's mailing address is a post office box in Fortitude Valley, Queensland, Australia.


    Other iphone5 domains listed with Whois include iphone5.net, .org, .biz, .info and .us. Those domains are either not very active or dead ends. None have been challenged by Apple yet, but that's not unusual. In the past, Apple has mostly reserved its challenges to dot-com domains.


    Although Apple has paid for some domain names in the past, it recently has resorted to the Uniform Domain-Name Dispute-Resolution Policy (UDRP) to latch onto domain names that violate its trademarks. Those names include iphone.com, ipods.com. wwwitunes.com, appleosxlion.com, and applefans.com.


     


     


    --- I will touch base on anything missed later, and again do not think I am an Apple product hater. Again the goal of a company is to become successful and the road to get there is ugly and hard in most cases. I don't like Apple's tactics and it is my opinion that Apple plays dirty as Microsoft did back in the 80's and 90's .. going back in time this is vaguely reminiscent the "controversial" Apple improving on the XeroxPARC GUI.

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  • Reply 34 of 41
    macbook promacbook pro Posts: 1,605member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by forJAT View Post


    I will touch base on this when I have more time but FingerWorks did not even invent multi-touch and multi touch was in other projects way before iPhone... 




    A breakthrough occurred in 1991, when Pierre Wellner published a paper on his multi-touch “Digital Desk”, which supported multi-finger and pinching motions.[7][8]


    Various companies expanded upon these inventions in the beginning of the twenty-first century. The company Fingerworks developed various multi-touch technologies between 1999 and 2005, including Touchstream keyboards and the iGesture Pad. Several studies of this technology were published in the early 2000s by Alan Hedge, professor of human factors and ergonomics at Cornell University.[9][10][11]Apple acquired Fingerworks and its multi-touch technology in 2005. Mainstream exposure to multi-touch technology occurred in 2007 when the iPhone gained popularity, with Apple stating they 'invented multi touch' as part of the iPhone announcement,[12] however both the function and the term predate the announcement or patent requests, except for such area of application as capacitive mobile screens, which did not exist before Fingerworks/Apple's technology (Apple filed patents for in 2005-2007 and was awarded with in 2009-2010). Publication and demonstration using the term Multi-touch by Jefferson Y. Han in 2005 predates these,[13] but Apple did give multi-touch wider exposure through its association with their new product and were the first to introduce multi-touch on a mobile device.[14] Microsoft's table-top touch platform Microsoft Surface, which started development in 2001, interacts with both the users touch and their electronic devices. Similarly, in 2001, Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratories (MERL) began development of a multi-touch, multi-user system called DiamondTouch, also based on capacitance but able to differentiate between multiple simultaneous users (or rather, the chairs in which each user is seated or the floorpad the user is standing on); the Diamondtouch became a commercial product in 2008.


    Small-scale touch devices are rapidly becoming commonplace, with the number of touch screen telephones expected to increase from 200,000 shipped in 2006 to 21 million in 2012.[15]


    Some of the first devices to support multi-touch were:


     


     


    Apple by way of buying Fingerworks was the first company to bring a non stylus multi-touch screen to a mobile device this I give you but that is a FAR stretch from saying that Apple invented Multi-Touch. 


     


    I have nothing "against" Apple other than their tactics they are reminiscent of MicroSoft suing Apple at every corner


     


    Companies build on the ideas of others ..... One person invents something then another comes along and improves it that is the way it is "supposed" to work but the definition and spirit behind a patent has changed drastically: 



    A patent is simply a license to sue.  A patent grants its owner the right to stop others from "infringing" the patent by making, selling, or using the claimed invention without permission. Coverage does not rely on the accused infringer having copied or derived a product from what was patented - i.e., someone who thought the same thing up independently can still be an infringer. Conversely, someone who copies the basic idea behind a patented product but who comes up with another way of providing the end user with the same benefit is NOT necessarily an infringer. Patents generally only cover what they claim, and every patent is a challenge to other clever people to figure out a different, non-infringing, way of reaching the same goal.



    To me the following is ridiculous 




    -----------Between January 2008 and May 2010, Apple Inc. filed more than 350 cases with the U.S. Patent and Trademark office (USPTO) alone, most in opposition to or taking exception to others' use of the terms 'apple', 'pod', and 'safari': those cases include sellers of apples (the fruit), as well as many others' less unassuming use of the term 'apple'.


     


    ---------Whether the next version of the Apple's best-selling smartphone will be called the iPhone 5 or not, the company apparently covets the domain based on that name.


    In a complaint filed with the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO), Apple is challenging the ownership of the iphone5.comdomain name, which is currently used to host a forum for Apple enthusiasts to speculate about the next iPhone.


    According to the directory for domain name ownership, Whois, the owner of the iphone5 domain wishes to keep her or his identity private, but the owner's mailing address is a post office box in Fortitude Valley, Queensland, Australia.


    Other iphone5 domains listed with Whois include iphone5.net, .org, .biz, .info and .us. Those domains are either not very active or dead ends. None have been challenged by Apple yet, but that's not unusual. In the past, Apple has mostly reserved its challenges to dot-com domains.


    Although Apple has paid for some domain names in the past, it recently has resorted to the Uniform Domain-Name Dispute-Resolution Policy (UDRP) to latch onto domain names that violate its trademarks. Those names include iphone.com, ipods.com. wwwitunes.com, appleosxlion.com, and applefans.com.


     


     


    --- I will touch base on anything missed later, and again do not think I am an Apple product hater. Again the goal of a company is to become successful and the road to get there is ugly and hard in most cases. I don't like Apple's tactics and it is my opinion that Apple plays dirty as Microsoft did back in the 80's and 90's .. going back in time this is vaguely reminiscent the "controversial" Apple improving on the XeroxPARC GUI.



     


    If you want to discuss inventions that have little to no bearing on the current discussion that is fine but ...  Bell Labs at Murray Hill published a comprehensive discussion of touch screen based interfaces and in 1984 engineered a touch screen that could change images with more than one hand.  Regarding your claims about Jeff Yan and Microsoft, as I stated Wayne Westerman wrote his PhD thesis about "Hand Tracking, Finger Identification and Chordic Manipulation on a Multi-Touch Surface in 1999 which predates the timeframes you reference in regards to Jeff Yan and Microsoft.


     


    You did not reference any patents for multi-touch which precede Apple's invention.


     


    Patents are not "licenses to sue."  Your comment is patently absurd.  As far as your additional assertions, a company is obligated to protect their brand image, copyrights and intellectual property.  In fact, not doing so is potentially grounds for a lawsuit by stockholders.  This includes copyrights, patents, trademarks, websites, etc.  Nokia is facing a lawsuit from stockholders at this time because the stockholders feel they were defrauded about Nokia's deteriorating position in the smartphone market.  http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Nokia-Faces-Shareholder-Lawsuit-Over-Windows-Phone-Deal-Poor-Results-256136/


     


    As you can see in the graphic, Apple is actually being sued more than they have sued other companies.  Your ire should be focused on those who have misappropriated (read: stolen) Apple's significant research & development effort then sued Apple.


     


    whos_suing_whom.png


     


    It is clear that you do not like Apple.

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  • Reply 35 of 41
    technarchytechnarchy Posts: 296member
    The HTC One X is quite impressive...to bad it's running android.

    If that same caliber of effort were mated to Windows Phone, it would be much more enticing.
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    fredaroonyfredaroony Posts: 619member

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    The HTC One X is quite impressive...to bad it's running android.

    If that same caliber of effort were mated to Windows Phone, it would be much more enticing.


    Android with HTC Sense is quite a bit different than standard Android. Have you tried it?

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  • Reply 37 of 41
    macbook promacbook pro Posts: 1,605member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Technarchy View Post



    The HTC One X is quite impressive...to bad it's running android.

    If that same caliber of effort were mated to Windows Phone, it would be much more enticing.


     


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fredaroony View Post


    Android with HTC Sense is quite a bit different than standard Android. Have you tried it?



     


    I am going to agree with fredaroony here.


     


    HTC One X uses Android 4.0.3 Ice Cream Sandwich which focuses on improving the user interface considerably.  Ice Cream Sandwich features the following, according to Wikipedia:


     


     



    • Virtual buttons in the UI, in place of capacitive or physical buttons


    • Separation of widgets in a new tab, listed in a similar manner to apps


    • Easier-to-create folders, with a drag-and-drop style


    • A customizable launcher


    • Improved visual voicemail with the ability to speed up or slow down voicemail messages


    • Pinch-to-zoom functionality in the calendar


    • Offline search, a two-line preview, and new action bar at the bottom of the Gmail app


    • Ability to swipe left or right to switch between Gmail conversations


    • Integrated screenshot capture (accomplished by holding down the Power and Volume-Down buttons)


    • Improved error correction on the keyboard


    • Ability to access apps directly from lock screen


    • Improved copy and paste functionality


    • Better voice integration and continuous, real-time speech to text dictation


    • Face Unlock, a feature that allows users to unlock handsets using facial recognition software


    • New tabbed web browser, allowing up to 16 tabs


    • Automatic syncing of browser with users' Chrome bookmarks


    • A new typeface family for the UI, Roboto


    • Data Usage section in settings that lets users set warnings when they approach a certain usage limit, and disable data use when the limit is exceeded


    • Ability to shut down apps that are using data in the background


    • Improved camera app with zero shutter lag, time lapse settings, panorama mode, and the ability to zoom while recording


    • Built-in photo editor


    • New gallery layout, organized by location and person


    • Refreshed "People" app with social network integration, status updates and hi-res images


    • Android Beam, a near-field communication feature allowing the rapid short-range exchange of web bookmarks, contact info, directions, YouTube videos and other data


    • Support for the WebP image format[49]


    • Hardware acceleration of the UI[60]


    • Wi-Fi Direct[61]


    • 1080p video recording for stock Android devices


     


    HTC Sense is actually an improvement in usability versus "stock" Android.  The only drawback is the likely lack of future major software upgrades which wouldn't be an issue with stock Android.


     


    In an update to earlier comments I have learned that HTC One X features 25 GB of Dropbox cloud storage free for two years.

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  • Reply 38 of 41
    fredaroonyfredaroony Posts: 619member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MacBook Pro View Post


     


     


    I am going to agree with fredaroony here.


     


    HTC One X uses Android 4.0.3 Ice Cream Sandwich which focuses on improving the user interface considerably.  Ice Cream Sandwich features the following, according to Wikipedia:


     


     



    • Virtual buttons in the UI, in place of capacitive or physical buttons


    • Separation of widgets in a new tab, listed in a similar manner to apps


    • Easier-to-create folders, with a drag-and-drop style


    • A customizable launcher


    • Improved visual voicemail with the ability to speed up or slow down voicemail messages


    • Pinch-to-zoom functionality in the calendar


    • Offline search, a two-line preview, and new action bar at the bottom of the Gmail app


    • Ability to swipe left or right to switch between Gmail conversations


    • Integrated screenshot capture (accomplished by holding down the Power and Volume-Down buttons)


    • Improved error correction on the keyboard


    • Ability to access apps directly from lock screen


    • Improved copy and paste functionality


    • Better voice integration and continuous, real-time speech to text dictation


    • Face Unlock, a feature that allows users to unlock handsets using facial recognition software


    • New tabbed web browser, allowing up to 16 tabs


    • Automatic syncing of browser with users' Chrome bookmarks


    • A new typeface family for the UI, Roboto


    • Data Usage section in settings that lets users set warnings when they approach a certain usage limit, and disable data use when the limit is exceeded


    • Ability to shut down apps that are using data in the background


    • Improved camera app with zero shutter lag, time lapse settings, panorama mode, and the ability to zoom while recording


    • Built-in photo editor


    • New gallery layout, organized by location and person


    • Refreshed "People" app with social network integration, status updates and hi-res images


    • Android Beam, a near-field communication feature allowing the rapid short-range exchange of web bookmarks, contact info, directions, YouTube videos and other data


    • Support for the WebP image format[49]


    • Hardware acceleration of the UI[60]


    • Wi-Fi Direct[61]


    • 1080p video recording for stock Android devices


     


    HTC Sense is actually an improvement in usability versus "stock" Android.  The only drawback is the likely lack of future major software upgrades which wouldn't be an issue with stock Android.


     


    In an update to earlier comments I have learned that HTC One X features 25 GB of Dropbox cloud storage free for two years.



    I don't believe there has been much of an issue with upgrades where the hardware has permitted it. 

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  • Reply 39 of 41
    fredaroonyfredaroony Posts: 619member


    Looks like the phones have been released!

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  • Reply 40 of 41
    mikeb85mikeb85 Posts: 506member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TomMcIn View Post


    Products can come to market much faster when the analysis and design work, market testing and prototypes are done for them by someone else.  Wonder where HTC would be if they had to start from scratch.



     


    HTC has been making smartphones since 2000... 

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