I dunno about the 85% claim, but this thread says it's all normal.
That thread is referring to the fact that the battery gauges that are calibrated for alkaline cells will indicate less than 100% when using fully charged NiMH cells; this is correct. However, this has nothing to do with how fully NiMH chargers can charge NiMH cells. The statement made in the post by efithian@mac.com is incorrect.
This is good information, especially if you're buying a second-hand iPhone from ebay. Some sellers/re-sellers bundle in crappy, third-party chargers, which have been rumored to mess up the battery, or even cause over-heating.
WOW, talk about a cutting-edge, innovative company!! They use mustard seeds and rice as charger components. I've heard of an electric sparking pickle and a potato powering a light bulb but grains and seeds regulating hundreds of volts in a power adapter?....who woulda thunk?
It's not that special really, and still hybrid technology relying on grid connect. They can't get enough watts out of the rice with the internal processing to completely replace the AC, watch for when they go totally fusion and release all of the energy from a single grain of rice, That will be the product to see...
For devices earlier than the Magic Trackpad. But that's what I'm using.
I use a Magic Trackpad and the Apple charger with the batteries that came with it, and they always fully charge, it says 100% battery level when I pop in newly charged batteries into the trackpad about once a week.
[QUOTE]Shirriff found that Apple's new and improve prongs are considerably more difficult to remove than [B]counterfeit devices and even Samsung's chargers[/B].[/QUOTE]
I think you will find that all NiMH chargers can only charge to 80% of the capacity of an alkaline cell, mainly because the voltage of an alkaline in 1.5 volts and that of a NiMH cell is 1.2 volts, which is about 80% of the voltage.
This is precisely why I buy Apple accessory products for my Apple products. Quality & Innovation. Even when Apple isn't pushed to give you more. I bought several of these chargers at $29.95 for the family a while back and they still work well. People at the time these chargers came out, complained it was a ripoff for a simple charger. Well, now we know for sure it wasn't a simple charger. It is a premium design and I'll alway be willing to pay more for premium and innovative Apple products or from any other company with an Apple reputation.
Because the brains needed to design it were completely free! They didn't even have to make any prototypes, invest in manufacturing processes, nothing! The price Apple pay is always just the cost of the parts, nothing else! They don't even have to spend time testing these things!
On the other hand: No other company spends anything on R&D! The R is observe Apple's successful products, and the D consists of price fixing and avoiding litigation!
/sarc
So um just not all profit for anyone really. We probably pay too much. Noone pays enough though. Otherwise those factories wouldn't be in china now, would they? The devaluing of design into "everything is just made from parts that already exist" is the logic of a fool.
Wrong reply. The correct response to someone whining about too high a "markup" is not to suggest that the markup is not as large as suggested. The correct response is that it's nobody's business but Apple's and the willing buyer's whether the price is fair.
Sorry... have to do the obligatory "Now wait for Samescam to copy the charger exactly, and say it was just a natural evolution and not copying".
$50 that Samsung will insert a mustard seed onto their circuit board thinking that's what Apple was doing.
Meanwhile Samsung is getting published in Science Magazine for pioneering work on graphene transistors which have 100 times the computing power of today's silicon. But good job on the charger - atta boy Apple.
Meanwhile Samsung is getting published in Science Magazine for pioneering work on graphene transistors which have 100 times the computing power of today's silicon. But good job on the charger - atta boy Apple.
So you're saying that Samsung Electronics could learn a thing or two from their science division instead of copying Apple's stuff?? I totally agree!!
So you're saying that Samsung Electronics could learn a thing or two from their science division instead of copying Apple's stuff?? I totally agree!!
I can't believe Apple is still suing Samsung over their Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet. I mean do people actually buy those things. Apple owns the market why do they care about a product that's not selling. Especially when Samsung makes so many of the internals for Apple's iProducts. Can't these two just forget about it. I really don't see how anybody could mistake an ugly Samsung tablet for a iPad anyway, stupid lawsuit, all of them stupid.
I can't believe Apple is still suing Samsung over their Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet. I mean do people actually buy those things. Apple owns the market why do they care about a product that's not selling.
I see. So if a robber breaks into your house and steals your TV, you shouldn't bother prosecuting because you're not using it any more.
I guess that's why they sell them at 500% margins, must be the surprisingly complex and innovative electronics. Pass the mustard please.
Good to see a consumer bitching about great quality products.
We could do with a lot less of these, couldn't we?
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I use a Magic Trackpad and the Apple charger with the batteries that came with it, and they always fully charge, it says 100% battery level when I pop in newly charged batteries into the trackpad about once a week.
You seriously need to take a screenshot of your old multi-coloured signature and add it to each post.
Typo: "destruction of the charter". If you're going to do a copy and paste of someone else's article, get it right. The original article is well worth a read. Apple has a long tradition of better than average power supply design (but sometimes faulty implementation). The original 128K Mac was known for a blue smoke display, followed by the nothing works feature. This was in part because Jobs hated fans, and a small error in soldering (or possibly overheating) could cause a dry solder joint in the flyback transformer that added unbudgeted heat, resulting in further failure.
I made a teardown video of this charger over a year ago and it's garnered me more hits than any other video I've ever created:
Recently I was contacted by a blogger who specializes in these kinds of chargers and he noted how the construction was ecellent, robust, and using the finest materials. Apple has really done their dilligence with this and it's no wonder they charge $20 for it.
I wonder if anyone knows how much wattage this thing can put out. Could you power a USB hard drive from it?
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Originally Posted by Eriamjh
I dunno about the 85% claim, but this thread says it's all normal.
For devices earlier than the Magic Trackpad. But that's what I'm using. :I miss you, confused emoticon:
Good to have confirmation of the alkaline calibration point, though.
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Originally Posted by signal
You get one free with every iPhone.
Yeah you get your mustard free with your iPhone but if you lose it it's hotdog time when buy it from apple then.
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Originally Posted by myapplelove
Yeah you get your mustard free with your iPhone but if you lose it it's hotdog time when buy it from apple then.
Your vague and somewhat incorrect analogy is making me hungry for food I don't eat.
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Originally Posted by Eriamjh
I dunno about the 85% claim, but this thread says it's all normal.
That thread is referring to the fact that the battery gauges that are calibrated for alkaline cells will indicate less than 100% when using fully charged NiMH cells; this is correct. However, this has nothing to do with how fully NiMH chargers can charge NiMH cells. The statement made in the post by efithian@mac.com is incorrect.
This is good information, especially if you're buying a second-hand iPhone from ebay. Some sellers/re-sellers bundle in crappy, third-party chargers, which have been rumored to mess up the battery, or even cause over-heating.
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Originally Posted by Dickprinter
WOW, talk about a cutting-edge, innovative company!! They use mustard seeds and rice as charger components. I've heard of an electric sparking pickle and a potato powering a light bulb but grains and seeds regulating hundreds of volts in a power adapter?....who woulda thunk?
It's not that special really, and still hybrid technology relying on grid connect. They can't get enough watts out of the rice with the internal processing to completely replace the AC, watch for when they go totally fusion and release all of the energy from a single grain of rice, That will be the product to see...
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
For devices earlier than the Magic Trackpad. But that's what I'm using.
I use a Magic Trackpad and the Apple charger with the batteries that came with it, and they always fully charge, it says 100% battery level when I pop in newly charged batteries into the trackpad about once a week.
There's a difference? (wink)
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Originally Posted by efithian@mac.com
I think you will find that all NiMH chargers can only charge to 80% of the capacity of an alkaline cell, mainly because the voltage of an alkaline in 1.5 volts and that of a NiMH cell is 1.2 volts, which is about 80% of the voltage.
FYI Charge quantity is NOT equal to Voltage.
This is precisely why I buy Apple accessory products for my Apple products. Quality & Innovation. Even when Apple isn't pushed to give you more. I bought several of these chargers at $29.95 for the family a while back and they still work well. People at the time these chargers came out, complained it was a ripoff for a simple charger. Well, now we know for sure it wasn't a simple charger. It is a premium design and I'll alway be willing to pay more for premium and innovative Apple products or from any other company with an Apple reputation.
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Originally Posted by TimmyDax
Because the brains needed to design it were completely free! They didn't even have to make any prototypes, invest in manufacturing processes, nothing! The price Apple pay is always just the cost of the parts, nothing else! They don't even have to spend time testing these things!
On the other hand: No other company spends anything on R&D! The R is observe Apple's successful products, and the D consists of price fixing and avoiding litigation!
/sarc
So um just not all profit for anyone really. We probably pay too much. Noone pays enough though. Otherwise those factories wouldn't be in china now, would they? The devaluing of design into "everything is just made from parts that already exist" is the logic of a fool.
Wrong reply. The correct response to someone whining about too high a "markup" is not to suggest that the markup is not as large as suggested. The correct response is that it's nobody's business but Apple's and the willing buyer's whether the price is fair.
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Originally Posted by sflocal
Sorry... have to do the obligatory "Now wait for Samescam to copy the charger exactly, and say it was just a natural evolution and not copying".
$50 that Samsung will insert a mustard seed onto their circuit board thinking that's what Apple was doing.
Meanwhile Samsung is getting published in Science Magazine for pioneering work on graphene transistors which have 100 times the computing power of today's silicon. But good job on the charger - atta boy Apple.
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Originally Posted by Tune
Meanwhile Samsung is getting published in Science Magazine for pioneering work on graphene transistors which have 100 times the computing power of today's silicon. But good job on the charger - atta boy Apple.
So you're saying that Samsung Electronics could learn a thing or two from their science division instead of copying Apple's stuff?? I totally agree!!
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
This is blatant copyright infringement! Samsung should sue over this! All Apple did was change the color of the…
Oh, wait.
On a more on-topic note, hey, Apple, how about a recall and replacement of the AA chargers you make? The batteries only ever charge to 60-80%.
I think all AA battery chargers are bad. Do you ever get a full charge.
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Originally Posted by sflocal
So you're saying that Samsung Electronics could learn a thing or two from their science division instead of copying Apple's stuff?? I totally agree!!
I can't believe Apple is still suing Samsung over their Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet. I mean do people actually buy those things. Apple owns the market why do they care about a product that's not selling. Especially when Samsung makes so many of the internals for Apple's iProducts. Can't these two just forget about it. I really don't see how anybody could mistake an ugly Samsung tablet for a iPad anyway, stupid lawsuit, all of them stupid.
I see. So if a robber breaks into your house and steals your TV, you shouldn't bother prosecuting because you're not using it any more.
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Originally Posted by myapplelove
I guess that's why they sell them at 500% margins, must be the surprisingly complex and innovative electronics. Pass the mustard please.
Good to see a consumer bitching about great quality products.
We could do with a lot less of these, couldn't we?
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
I use a Magic Trackpad and the Apple charger with the batteries that came with it, and they always fully charge, it says 100% battery level when I pop in newly charged batteries into the trackpad about once a week.
You seriously need to take a screenshot of your old multi-coloured signature and add it to each post.
They look so bland these days. ;-)
Typo: "destruction of the charter". If you're going to do a copy and paste of someone else's article, get it right. The original article is well worth a read. Apple has a long tradition of better than average power supply design (but sometimes faulty implementation). The original 128K Mac was known for a blue smoke display, followed by the nothing works feature. This was in part because Jobs hated fans, and a small error in soldering (or possibly overheating) could cause a dry solder joint in the flyback transformer that added unbudgeted heat, resulting in further failure.
I made a teardown video of this charger over a year ago and it's garnered me more hits than any other video I've ever created:
Recently I was contacted by a blogger who specializes in these kinds of chargers and he noted how the construction was ecellent, robust, and using the finest materials. Apple has really done their dilligence with this and it's no wonder they charge $20 for it.
I wonder if anyone knows how much wattage this thing can put out. Could you power a USB hard drive from it?