Learn what a troll is kid, I backed my opinions and claims up.
And this isn't the time to coast on what was gifted to him in the heat of competition emerging in these new markets that Apple started: smartphone and tablet. There's very little differentiating themselves from the competition anymore besides brand loyalty. And if it turns into a spec war again, there's going to be some really bad days ahead.
But hey, I hope I'm wrong. Let's see what the next iPhone has that's exciting and never seen before. My $'s on nothing except LTE and bumped specs.
You are a troll. Your opinion and claims are backed up with unsubstantiated claims and your distorted view of reality not with facts.
Will you ever learn that is not about the specs? It is all about the performance and experience!
After my 2010 MBP's logic board went out on me after just a little over year, I don't have faith in their quality.
Same with OS X Lion. I didn't even know what the pinwheel looked like til I upgraded (8GB of ram btw). Now try using iPhoto at the same time as anything else.
Same with ios 5.0.1. The so-called battery life fixer that actually caused me to replace the phone (which it did, just a defective phone).
Safari? I'm sure I'm not in the minority when I say I use Chrome exclusively now.
Granted its still way better to use than the competition, but overall quality? Nah. Apple's as susceptible to failure as everything else. (except I've never had something as devastating as a board problem on a windows PC ever, let alone just a little over a year old)
But their products are still shiny and easy to use so I'll keep throwing money at them. Waiting to smell the new box scent with every purchase. I'm a sucker. But that's about the only thrill I get from actually using the products anymore. Waiting for a worthy alternative.
Some people actually get paid to say stuff like this on Apple blogs. All made up of course but scripted to sound believable. Not sure if it's Microsoft or Samsung but I doubt RIM can afford it! Did you ever come across any in all your time on this blog in the past?
You're very optimistic and I wish I could be too. But the thing that set Apple apart is their marketing.
Right from the start, you've established that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Marketing doesn't get you incredible customer retention ratings.
Marketing doesn't get you products that are so good that the rest of the industry mimics them.
Marketing doesn't get you an infrastructure so solid that after a customer buys one product, they come back to buy other products to fit together.
Marketing doesn't get you a reputation for products that 'just work' and allow you to retain it for decades.
Marketing doesn't get you product quality and performance ratings at the top of the pack.
Marketing doesn't get you the strongest performance in the industry for customer service.
Learn what a troll is kid, I backed my opinions and claims up.
And this isn't the time to coast on what was gifted to him in the heat of competition emerging in these new markets that Apple started: smartphone and tablet. There's very little differentiating themselves from the competition anymore besides brand loyalty. And if it turns into a spec war again, there's going to be some really bad days ahead.
But hey, I hope I'm wrong. Let's see what the next iPhone has that's exciting and never seen before. My $'s on nothing except LTE and bumped specs.
Tim Cook was never 'gifted' anything...the Late Steve Jobs never 'Gifted' anything... you worked and were/are well compensated!... read the steve jobs book for a clue!.
People think Apple's products last longer than competitors. I'll give it them that apple product are built very well, but they're not infallible. Customers take more pride in these products and take better care of them. And even a Windows PC works great with the right hardware and care.
Spec rot aside, we have high-end Dell laptops that die consistently at the 30-month mark and desktops at the 42 month mark. Prices might have a 15% delta between the comparable Mac, but we see 25-40% longer life with the up-front delta easily being absorbed by administration (12 extra hours per machine at $65/hour burdened cost is $1k.)
Also, interestingly, the monitors need to be replaced with the machines (or within 1 year average), as the never ending need for more screen real-estate pushes on. This, the all-in-one approach has no negative cost impact to us.
While we are still heavily weighted in our office to PCs, that has nothing to do with hardware costs.
What did you get out of it? Nothing. He said absolutely nothing. He wasted an hour bringing nothing to the table. Get over yourselves, that's what you're going to get no matter how much you deny it. He was a big part of Apple's turnaround doing admin stuff under Jobs. He's not what made the company great, he was simply a helper.
Read between the lines. He said a lot by what he didn't say.
Some interesting snippets:
Walt: Is it possible to build a box and ignore the rest? Not build a TV but just build the box?
Cook: We would look at this and say can we control the key technology? Can we make a significant contribution beyond what others have made in this area? Can we make a product that we would all want? That's all thing we would ask about any new product category. It's the ones we ask about products within families we're thinking about now.
YES.
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Kara: What do you think about how Google and Netflix are funding original content?
Cook: I don't think Apple should be in the content business. We haven't had an issue for the most part in getting content. We have 30 million songs, virtually every song out there. Movies and TV shows get difficult because you have separate ownership in each country. For the most part, getting content isn't an issue. I think that there is a great art to doing content right. I have great appreciation for the content. This is an area where Apple partnering well is the right approach. Not making content. For funding, the greatest thing we can provide is to sell a lot of their stuff. If we can make an elegant solution with their content, that's the best thing we can do for all parties.
Kara: Do you see more acquisitions under the Tim Cook regime?
Cook: We continue to buy companies. They aren't ones we seek to make public.
Kara: Eventually you have to tell us.
Cook: Depends on the value. If I don't have to, I won't. That's part of the doubling down.
Lots of options out there. LEAP, NEST, NVIDIA etc...
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Walt: Who's the curator these days at Apple? Steve was the curator or editor on these products.
Cook: We have a privilege, because if I look around the executive team, many of the people are the people I've been working with for double digit years. We all know each other very well and have great respect for each other.
The curator role moves, as it's always moved.
Walt: It was a myth that he did it all.
Cook: He said that no one person could do it all. Look at what we're doing, it's not possible. You could have an "S" on your chest and a cape and you couldn't do it all. He brought great people to the company and set a standard for who they brought in. That built an incredible company. He brought that foundation and his spirit will always be in the DNA of the company. I wouldn't get overly focused on who does what piece. The company doing all the things we're doing, there are a lot of key people.
"Thus the calendar in Apple's Macs and on iOS has fake leather texture and even fake stitching.
When I mention the fake stitching, Ive offers a wince but it's a gesture of sympathy rather than a suggestion that he dislikes such things. At least, that's how I read it. He refuses to be drawn on the matter, offering a diplomatic reply: "My focus is very much working with the other teams on the product ideas and then developing the hardware and so that's our focus and that's our responsibility. In terms of those elements you're talking about, I'm not really connected to that."
What this interview did for me is increase my faith in Cook further. It's tough to imagine better responses than what he gave, or ones I would have wanted him to give. It's clear he understands Apple's culture, legacy, focus, and has sincere passion towards these things. He specifically stated in the interview that he's not Steve, he's not trying to be or replace Steve, and never will, something that many have illogically placed upon him. His role is to do the best possible job that he can do, leveraging his strength as well as perhaps learning to get stronger in areas that were not his strong point. Everything I've seen since he took the position indicated to me that he's done a phenomenal job so far, and will continue to do so- both in retaining Apple's culture, as well as making improvements in areas where Steve either didn't have the time or interest to do (understandably so, as he was only juggling a million things at once while fighting for his life). Nobody can predict the future, but I have trouble thinking of any living individual I would want in that role above Tim Cook. And yes, this includes considering Apple's other executives like Ive and Forstall, who I believe are best in their current roles right now.
Learn what a troll is kid, I backed my opinions and claims up.
And this isn't the time to coast on what was gifted to him in the heat of competition emerging in these new markets that Apple started: smartphone and tablet. There's very little differentiating themselves from the competition anymore besides brand loyalty. And if it turns into a spec war again, there's going to be some really bad days ahead.
But hey, I hope I'm wrong. Let's see what the next iPhone has that's exciting and never seen before. My $'s on nothing except LTE and bumped specs.
What effing innovation do you expect in 6 months? Apple's roadmap is probably laid out 3-6 years down the road already.
What major innovation do you really expect on a smartphone now? Why do you think the only thing Samsung or anyone esle are bringing to the table is bigger screens? Because the general utilities and feature sets of smart phones are now relatively established now.
ALL smart phones are simply fine tuning their devices now. Better battery life, better screen, incremental feature sets added to OS's. But I'm all ears about what innovations you have in mind?
What this interview did for me is increase my faith in Cook further. It's tough to imagine better responses than what he gave, or ones I would have wanted him to give. It's clear he understands Apple's culture, legacy, focus, and has sincere passion towards these things. He specifically stated in the interview that he's not Steve, he's not trying to be or replace Steve, and never will, something that many have illogically placed upon him. His role is to do the best possible job that he can do, leveraging his strength as well as perhaps learning to get stronger in areas that were not his strong point. Everything I've seen since he took the position indicated to me that he's done a phenomenal job so far, and will continue to do so- both in retaining Apple's culture, as well as making improvements in areas where Steve either didn't have the time or interest to do (understandably so, as he was only juggling a million things at once while fighting for his life). Nobody can predict the future, but I have trouble thinking of any living individual I would want in that role above Tim Cook. And yes, this includes considering Apple's other executives like Ive and Forstall, who I believe are best in their current roles right now.
I could not have said it better myself. I actually think Tim Cook answered a lot of the questions in a Steve Jobs fashion and I sensed a bit of RDF and I got excited lol
After my 2010 MBP's logic board went out on me after just a little over year, I don't have faith in their quality.
Same with OS X Lion. I didn't even know what the pinwheel looked like til I upgraded (8GB of ram btw). Now try using iPhoto at the same time as anything else.
Same with ios 5.0.1. The so-called battery life fixer that actually caused me to replace the phone (which it did, just a defective phone).
Safari? I'm sure I'm not in the minority when I say I use Chrome exclusively now.
In some ways, you're the worst kind of troll. You're the kind of troll who doesn't even realize he's a troll. That's evident in that you want to turn this page into a debate about you rather than discuss what the article was about.
That 2010 MBP? It was developed under the leadership of Jobs
Safari? ...under Jobs.
iOS 5.0.1? ...under Jobs.
Lion? ...under Jobs.
And yet, here you are building an argument against Tim Cook for not being Steve Jobs, even as you criticize products developed under the guidance of Steve Jobs.
But their products are still shiny and easy to use so I'll keep throwing money at them. Waiting to smell the new box scent with every purchase. I'm a sucker. But that's about the only thrill I get from actually using the products anymore. Waiting for a worthy alternative.
I'm guessing you're quite young. Just out of high school, perhaps?
What is more important? Apple's continued success, or the need for Steve Jobs worshippers to believe that Steve could do no wrong? What will happen if Tim Cook makes a decision which goes against what Steve would have done, but results in more success for Apple? Will Steve worshippers wish for Cook and Apple to fail for defying Steve? Or will they have the courage to admit that Steve was wrong?
You just don't get Apple. It's been this way for 30 years, whether Apple was doing well or poor. People just don't get them and bring up all these crazy 20 year old Apple myths.
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Learn what a troll is kid, I backed my opinions and claims up.
No, you haven't…
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Originally Posted by AjbDtc826
Learn what a troll is kid, I backed my opinions and claims up.
And this isn't the time to coast on what was gifted to him in the heat of competition emerging in these new markets that Apple started: smartphone and tablet. There's very little differentiating themselves from the competition anymore besides brand loyalty. And if it turns into a spec war again, there's going to be some really bad days ahead.
But hey, I hope I'm wrong. Let's see what the next iPhone has that's exciting and never seen before. My $'s on nothing except LTE and bumped specs.
You are a troll. Your opinion and claims are backed up with unsubstantiated claims and your distorted view of reality not with facts.
Will you ever learn that is not about the specs? It is all about the performance and experience!
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Originally Posted by AjbDtc826
After my 2010 MBP's logic board went out on me after just a little over year, I don't have faith in their quality.
Same with OS X Lion. I didn't even know what the pinwheel looked like til I upgraded (8GB of ram btw). Now try using iPhoto at the same time as anything else.
Same with ios 5.0.1. The so-called battery life fixer that actually caused me to replace the phone (which it did, just a defective phone).
Safari? I'm sure I'm not in the minority when I say I use Chrome exclusively now.
Granted its still way better to use than the competition, but overall quality? Nah. Apple's as susceptible to failure as everything else. (except I've never had something as devastating as a board problem on a windows PC ever, let alone just a little over a year old)
But their products are still shiny and easy to use so I'll keep throwing money at them. Waiting to smell the new box scent with every purchase. I'm a sucker. But that's about the only thrill I get from actually using the products anymore. Waiting for a worthy alternative.
Some people actually get paid to say stuff like this on Apple blogs. All made up of course but scripted to sound believable. Not sure if it's Microsoft or Samsung but I doubt RIM can afford it! Did you ever come across any in all your time on this blog in the past?
Right from the start, you've established that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Marketing doesn't get you incredible customer retention ratings.
Marketing doesn't get you products that are so good that the rest of the industry mimics them.
Marketing doesn't get you an infrastructure so solid that after a customer buys one product, they come back to buy other products to fit together.
Marketing doesn't get you a reputation for products that 'just work' and allow you to retain it for decades.
Marketing doesn't get you product quality and performance ratings at the top of the pack.
Marketing doesn't get you the strongest performance in the industry for customer service.
Is it starting to sink in?
Tim Cook was never 'gifted' anything...the Late Steve Jobs never 'Gifted' anything... you worked and were/are well compensated!... read the steve jobs book for a clue!.
You are a troll, and invite an Godwin analogy...
Spec rot aside, we have high-end Dell laptops that die consistently at the 30-month mark and desktops at the 42 month mark. Prices might have a 15% delta between the comparable Mac, but we see 25-40% longer life with the up-front delta easily being absorbed by administration (12 extra hours per machine at $65/hour burdened cost is $1k.)
Also, interestingly, the monitors need to be replaced with the machines (or within 1 year average), as the never ending need for more screen real-estate pushes on. This, the all-in-one approach has no negative cost impact to us.
While we are still heavily weighted in our office to PCs, that has nothing to do with hardware costs.
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But the thing that set Apple apart is their marketing.
You weren't doing too badly right up until then.
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Right from the start, you've established that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Marketing doesn't get you incredible customer retention ratings.
Marketing doesn't get you products that are so good that the rest of the industry mimics them.
Marketing doesn't get you an infrastructure so solid that after a customer buys one product, they come back to buy other products to fit together.
Marketing doesn't get you a reputation for products that 'just work' and allow you to retain it for decades.
Marketing doesn't get you product quality and performance ratings at the top of the pack.
Marketing doesn't get you the strongest performance in the industry for customer service.
Is it starting to sink in?
This should be a sticky.
It's ridiculously obvious, though. Shocking that some people can't rub a couple of brain cells together in order to figure it out.
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What did you get out of it? Nothing. He said absolutely nothing. He wasted an hour bringing nothing to the table. Get over yourselves, that's what you're going to get no matter how much you deny it. He was a big part of Apple's turnaround doing admin stuff under Jobs. He's not what made the company great, he was simply a helper.
Read between the lines. He said a lot by what he didn't say.
Some interesting snippets:
Walt: Is it possible to build a box and ignore the rest? Not build a TV but just build the box?
Cook: We would look at this and say can we control the key technology? Can we make a significant contribution beyond what others have made in this area? Can we make a product that we would all want? That's all thing we would ask about any new product category. It's the ones we ask about products within families we're thinking about now.
YES.
--
Kara: What do you think about how Google and Netflix are funding original content?
Cook: I don't think Apple should be in the content business. We haven't had an issue for the most part in getting content. We have 30 million songs, virtually every song out there. Movies and TV shows get difficult because you have separate ownership in each country. For the most part, getting content isn't an issue. I think that there is a great art to doing content right. I have great appreciation for the content. This is an area where Apple partnering well is the right approach. Not making content. For funding, the greatest thing we can provide is to sell a lot of their stuff. If we can make an elegant solution with their content, that's the best thing we can do for all parties.
EPIX
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Kara: Do you see more acquisitions under the Tim Cook regime?
Cook: We continue to buy companies. They aren't ones we seek to make public.
Kara: Eventually you have to tell us.
Cook: Depends on the value. If I don't have to, I won't. That's part of the doubling down.
Lots of options out there. LEAP, NEST, NVIDIA etc...
--
Walt: Who's the curator these days at Apple? Steve was the curator or editor on these products.
Cook: We have a privilege, because if I look around the executive team, many of the people are the people I've been working with for double digit years. We all know each other very well and have great respect for each other.
The curator role moves, as it's always moved.
Walt: It was a myth that he did it all.
Cook: He said that no one person could do it all. Look at what we're doing, it's not possible. You could have an "S" on your chest and a cape and you couldn't do it all. He brought great people to the company and set a standard for who they brought in. That built an incredible company. He brought that foundation and his spirit will always be in the DNA of the company. I wouldn't get overly focused on who does what piece. The company doing all the things we're doing, there are a lot of key people.
Good interview on Jonathan Ive here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/9283706/Jonathan-Ive-interview-simplicity-isnt-simple.html
Interesting snippet from Jony:
"Thus the calendar in Apple's Macs and on iOS has fake leather texture and even fake stitching.
When I mention the fake stitching, Ive offers a wince but it's a gesture of sympathy rather than a suggestion that he dislikes such things. At least, that's how I read it. He refuses to be drawn on the matter, offering a diplomatic reply: "My focus is very much working with the other teams on the product ideas and then developing the hardware and so that's our focus and that's our responsibility. In terms of those elements you're talking about, I'm not really connected to that."
What this interview did for me is increase my faith in Cook further. It's tough to imagine better responses than what he gave, or ones I would have wanted him to give. It's clear he understands Apple's culture, legacy, focus, and has sincere passion towards these things. He specifically stated in the interview that he's not Steve, he's not trying to be or replace Steve, and never will, something that many have illogically placed upon him. His role is to do the best possible job that he can do, leveraging his strength as well as perhaps learning to get stronger in areas that were not his strong point. Everything I've seen since he took the position indicated to me that he's done a phenomenal job so far, and will continue to do so- both in retaining Apple's culture, as well as making improvements in areas where Steve either didn't have the time or interest to do (understandably so, as he was only juggling a million things at once while fighting for his life). Nobody can predict the future, but I have trouble thinking of any living individual I would want in that role above Tim Cook. And yes, this includes considering Apple's other executives like Ive and Forstall, who I believe are best in their current roles right now.
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Learn what a troll is kid, I backed my opinions and claims up.
And this isn't the time to coast on what was gifted to him in the heat of competition emerging in these new markets that Apple started: smartphone and tablet. There's very little differentiating themselves from the competition anymore besides brand loyalty. And if it turns into a spec war again, there's going to be some really bad days ahead.
But hey, I hope I'm wrong. Let's see what the next iPhone has that's exciting and never seen before. My $'s on nothing except LTE and bumped specs.
What effing innovation do you expect in 6 months? Apple's roadmap is probably laid out 3-6 years down the road already.
What major innovation do you really expect on a smartphone now? Why do you think the only thing Samsung or anyone esle are bringing to the table is bigger screens? Because the general utilities and feature sets of smart phones are now relatively established now.
ALL smart phones are simply fine tuning their devices now. Better battery life, better screen, incremental feature sets added to OS's. But I'm all ears about what innovations you have in mind?
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What this interview did for me is increase my faith in Cook further. It's tough to imagine better responses than what he gave, or ones I would have wanted him to give. It's clear he understands Apple's culture, legacy, focus, and has sincere passion towards these things. He specifically stated in the interview that he's not Steve, he's not trying to be or replace Steve, and never will, something that many have illogically placed upon him. His role is to do the best possible job that he can do, leveraging his strength as well as perhaps learning to get stronger in areas that were not his strong point. Everything I've seen since he took the position indicated to me that he's done a phenomenal job so far, and will continue to do so- both in retaining Apple's culture, as well as making improvements in areas where Steve either didn't have the time or interest to do (understandably so, as he was only juggling a million things at once while fighting for his life). Nobody can predict the future, but I have trouble thinking of any living individual I would want in that role above Tim Cook. And yes, this includes considering Apple's other executives like Ive and Forstall, who I believe are best in their current roles right now.
I could not have said it better myself. I actually think Tim Cook answered a lot of the questions in a Steve Jobs fashion and I sensed a bit of RDF and I got excited lol
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Originally Posted by AjbDtc826
After my 2010 MBP's logic board went out on me after just a little over year, I don't have faith in their quality.
Same with OS X Lion. I didn't even know what the pinwheel looked like til I upgraded (8GB of ram btw). Now try using iPhoto at the same time as anything else.
Same with ios 5.0.1. The so-called battery life fixer that actually caused me to replace the phone (which it did, just a defective phone).
Safari? I'm sure I'm not in the minority when I say I use Chrome exclusively now.
In some ways, you're the worst kind of troll. You're the kind of troll who doesn't even realize he's a troll. That's evident in that you want to turn this page into a debate about you rather than discuss what the article was about.
That 2010 MBP? It was developed under the leadership of Jobs
Safari? ...under Jobs.
iOS 5.0.1? ...under Jobs.
Lion? ...under Jobs.
And yet, here you are building an argument against Tim Cook for not being Steve Jobs, even as you criticize products developed under the guidance of Steve Jobs.
But their products are still shiny and easy to use so I'll keep throwing money at them. Waiting to smell the new box scent with every purchase. I'm a sucker. But that's about the only thrill I get from actually using the products anymore. Waiting for a worthy alternative.
I'm guessing you're quite young. Just out of high school, perhaps?
What is more important? Apple's continued success, or the need for Steve Jobs worshippers to believe that Steve could do no wrong? What will happen if Tim Cook makes a decision which goes against what Steve would have done, but results in more success for Apple? Will Steve worshippers wish for Cook and Apple to fail for defying Steve? Or will they have the courage to admit that Steve was wrong?
AjbDtc826
Wow! You are getting owned on this forum.
You just don't get Apple. It's been this way for 30 years, whether Apple was doing well or poor. People just don't get them and bring up all these crazy 20 year old Apple myths.
Were Tim Cook and Paul O'Grady separated at birth?
http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/britains-got-talent/paul-ogrady-for-britains-got-talent/