Android cedes ground to iOS in U.S. smartphone market during April

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  • Reply 81 of 88
    island hermitisland hermit Posts: 6,217member

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    No, I only attacked the forum fools. Any forum member who isn't a fool is excluded.



     


    Then you attacked yourself.

  • Reply 82 of 88
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member

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    Originally Posted by MacBook Pro View Post


     


     


     


    "...According to Sunnyvale, Calif., security firm Juniper Networks known instances of Android-related malware -- "virtually all" involving apps - have jumped steadily month by month from 400 in June 2011 to 15,507 in February 2012...


    "..San Francisco-based Lookout Mobile Security reported In August 2011, that "an estimated half-million to one million people were affected by Android malware in the first half of 2011..."


    "...Trend Micro of Japan, which has U.S. headquarters in Cupertino, Calif. - identified "more than 1,000 malicious Android apps" last year, 90 percent of them on Google's site and noted that the number of bad apps grew last year at 60 percent per month.  Trend Micro has estimated the total this year "will grow to more than 120,000."


    http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_20182226/android-apps-targeted-by-malware?source=rss_viewed.  


     


    Search “malware” on androidforums.com


    The result is “About 6,430 results” 


     


    Search “malware” on androidcentral.com


    The result is “About 4,420 results


     


    code.google.com/p/android/issues  Demonstrates 582 reported defects and enhancements for the keyword “security


     


     


    “There has been a rash of premium SMS toll fraud apps in the last few months that have primarily targeted users in Europe. These apps have often purported to be downloaders for well-known third party software (often freely available software such as Opera Mobile), and have primarily been found on file sharing sites and alternative markets.”


    Google isn’t finding the malware… Security researchers are… “Google responded to reports from Lookout and others by pulling these apps from the Market.”


    http://blog.mylookout.com/blog/2011/12/11/european-premium-sms-fraud/


     


     


    22 SMS Malware Apps Reach Android Market, Removed by Goole


    http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/22_sms_malware_apps_reach_android_market_removed_b.php


     


     


    A firm has been fined £50,000 after Trojan versions of popular Android apps secretly sent expensive SMS messages to premium rate numbers.


    http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/05/24/angry-birds-malware-fine/


     


     


    The fake Instagram website contains text in Russian and distributes an Android Trojan horse that, once installed, sends SMS messages to premium-rate numbers without the phone owner's authorization, said Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant at Sophos, in a blog post on Wednesday.


    http://www.cio.com/article/704599/Android_Malware_Writers_Exploit_Instagram_Craze_to_Distribute_SMS_Trojan_Horse


     


     


    New Android Malware Hides as Google+ App, Answers Calls for You


    http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/15/new-android-malware-hides-as-google-app-answers-calls-for-you/


     


    New Android Malware Can Remotely Root Phones


    http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/05/new-android-malware-can-remotely-root-phones/


     


     


    idtheftprotect: Google Bouncer isn’t working – over 15 AV and free SMS apps being offered by the same developer “thasnimola”. http://t.co/lwLhAaay #NQMobile


    idtheftprotect: Google Bouncer isn’t working – over 15 AV and free SMS apps being offered by the same developer “thasnimola”. http://t.co/lwLhAaay #NQMobile


     


     


    New Android malware spreads via Facebook, bypasses Google Bouncer


    http://www.slashgear.com/new-android-malware-spreads-via-facebook-bypasses-google-bouncer-24215202/


     


     


    Researchers Say They Snuck Malware App Past Google's 'Bouncer' Android Market Scanner


    http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/05/23/researchers-say-they-snuck-malware-app-past-googles-bouncer-android-market-scanner/


     


     



    1. Clearly there are serious concerns about malware on Google Android.


    2. Malware which masquerades as legitimate apps and can root devices, quietly intercept phone calls and send SMS messages is not equivalent to purposely installing social media apps that download contact information.


    3. Google Bouncer is not a sufficient solution thus Google Play (formerly Android Market) is not a safe haven for user downloads.



    Nearly all those links show exactly what I've said: As a rule users who stick to the official Google Play don't have much to be concerned about. Read the links and find that very few of those were loading from Google, but instead spoofed web pages, pirate sites and other sources that Google does not have any control over. Even in the official store a dozen or so problem apps out of several hundred thousand is nothing very concerning. There's malicious apps that make their way into Apple official store too, yet it's not seen the same way. 


     


    Surely you don't blame Apple and iOS if a user loads apps from an unofficial source or jailbreaks their iDevice and subsequently has a problem. 

  • Reply 83 of 88
    macbook promacbook pro Posts: 1,605member

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    Originally Posted by gwmac View Post


    Who really cares if 50% or 70% or even 90% of the world uses Android if Apple makes 70% of the actual profits in the smartphone sector.


     



     


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    Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post


    And consumer satisfaction, year after year. 



     


    And customer retention.  http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/09/22/apples_iphone_has_89_retention_rate_next_nearest_hardware_is_htc_at_39.html


     


    And smartphone reliability.  http://www.squaretrade.com/cell-phone-comparison-study-nov-10


     


    And lower average cost of quality apps.  http://mobile.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/iPhone-Apps-Are-Cheaper-than-Android-Report-321632/

  • Reply 84 of 88
    macbook promacbook pro Posts: 1,605member

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    Originally Posted by MacBook Pro View Post


    “There has been a rash of premium SMS toll fraud apps in the last few months that have primarily targeted users in Europe. These apps have often purported to be downloaders for well-known third party software (often freely available software such as Opera Mobile), and have primarily been found on file sharing sites and alternative markets.”


    Google isn’t finding the malware… Security researchers are… “Google responded to reports from Lookout and others by pulling these apps from the Market.”


    http://blog.mylookout.com/blog/2011/12/11/european-premium-sms-fraud/


     


     


    22 SMS Malware Apps Reach Android Market, Removed by Goole


    http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/22_sms_malware_apps_reach_android_market_removed_b.php


     


     


    A firm has been fined £50,000 after Trojan versions of popular Android apps secretly sent expensive SMS messages to premium rate numbers.


    http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/05/24/angry-birds-malware-fine/


     


     


    idtheftprotect: Google Bouncer isn’t working – over 15 AV and free SMS apps being offered by the same developer “thasnimola.” 


    http://t.co/lwLhAaay #NQMobile


    idtheftprotect: Google Bouncer isn’t working – over 15 AV and free SMS apps being offered by the same developer “thasnimola”. http://t.co/lwLhAaay #NQMobile


     


     


    New Android malware spreads via Facebook, bypasses Google Bouncer.


    http://www.slashgear.com/new-android-malware-spreads-via-facebook-bypasses-google-bouncer-24215202/


     


     


    Researchers Say They Snuck Malware App Past Google's 'Bouncer' Android Market Scanner.


    http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/05/23/researchers-say-they-snuck-malware-app-past-googles-bouncer-android-market-scanner/


     



     


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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    Nearly all those links show exactly what I've said: As a rule users who stick to the official Google Play don't have much to be concerned about. Read the links and find that very few of those were loading from Google, but instead spoofed web pages, pirate sites and other sources that Google does not have any control over. Even in the official store a dozen or so problem apps out of several hundred thousand is nothing very concerning. There's malicious apps that make their way into Apple official store too, yet it's not seen the same way. 


     


    Surely you don't blame Apple and iOS if a user loads apps from an unofficial source or jailbreaks their iDevice and subsequently has a problem. 



     


    Since users must "stick to the official Google Play" store then Android is a "walled garden?"


     


    After removing the malware which was not in Google Play there is still a considerable amount.  These were just the top hits in a 3 second search.  These are only the known instances of malware in Google Play and, as indicated, Bouncer isn't "bouncing" all the malware.  In fact, we don't know what percentage of malware Bouncer detects nor do we know that there are "a dozen or so problem apps out of several hundred."  The preponderance of evidence suggests otherwise.


     


    What malicious apps in the App Store have been identified that provide remote root access, intercept phone calls or send SMS messages?

  • Reply 85 of 88
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member

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    What malicious apps in the App Store have been identified that provide remote root access, intercept phone calls or send SMS messages?



    No one but Apple would know since they don't acknowledge malware in the first place do they?

  • Reply 86 of 88
    macbook promacbook pro Posts: 1,605member

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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    No one but Apple would know since they don't acknowledge malware in the first place do they?



     


    Well, that... Plus the minor fact that none have been reported while security firms have found significant instances of malware for Android.

  • Reply 87 of 88
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    drdoppio wrote: »
    No, I only attacked the forum fools. Any forum member who isn't a fool is excluded.

    There you are looking in the mirror again.

    Did you figure out that when the difference is 0.9% and the margin of error is 0.57% that the difference is significant?
    Well, that... Plus the minor fact that none have been reported while security firms have found significant instances of malware for Android.

    Not quite true. There have been instances of malware reported on iOS. However only on jailbroken phones, so that's not particularly relevant.
  • Reply 88 of 88
    e_veritase_veritas Posts: 248member

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    Did you figure out that when the difference is 0.9% and the margin of error is 0.57% that the difference is significant?

     


     


    Why do you keep using the 0.9% figure? That percentage may be beyond the range of error to be significant, but that percentage only tells us that Apple's marketshare growth has increased more than Google's. The original contention to the figure was the article saying Google had "ceded" marketshare. Since 'cede' means to lose, there is only 1 percentage that is relevant to that phrase, and that is the claim of a 0.2% loss of marketshare on Google's part. That 0.2% IS NOT beyond the range of error to be significant. Therefore, while it may be statistically valid to say Apple has gained on Google in marketshare, we DO NOT statistically know for certain that it came at the expense of Google (might be good to note RIM's 0.7% loss).

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