Apple reaches A$2.25M settlement with Australian regulator over 4G iPad

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  • Reply 21 of 104
    cycomikocycomiko Posts: 716member


    False advertising claim gets fined.  .


     


    People blame Australia, for upholding their regulations, 


     


    Even better, money grab?  2.25million?  Australia?  whats their GDP? a trillion?

  • Reply 22 of 104
    drdoppiodrdoppio Posts: 1,132member


    $2.25 million? This is peanuts for Apple.


     


    If Apple makes a $225 profit on each iPad  4G  Cellular sold, it only needs to sell 10 000  4G  Cellular units in Australia to make up for the marketing SNAFU. Considering that Australia's population is 0.326% of the world, and assuming a similar adoption rate of the iPad in Australia as worldwide in general, Apple probably sells close to 50 000 units in Australia in 3 months. Given that approximately 10% of the iPads sold are 4G (at least as estimated about the US), it would only take half a year for Apple to recover the penalty. If Australian buyers refrain from buying the  4G  Cellular model for any reason (lack of compatibility to local 4G networks springs to mind), then it could take Apple as long as one year to recover the costs, or about the time before the release of the next new iPad.


     


    It would appear to me that Apple could have passed on selling the incompatible iPad 4G in Australia altogether.

  • Reply 23 of 104
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member


    Australia doesn't use the term "cellular" or "cellphone", using these terms would draw no more than a blank stare, in much the same way as "4G".


     


    One part America can learn from, notice how the loser had to pay costs, that stops a lot of frivolous lawsuits here.


     


    Is this justice?


     


    Only for the rich.


     


    Maybe now Australians should launch a class action against the ACCC for causing a delay in the supply of new (US & Canada) 4G compatible iPads.


     


    Day after day people keep asking for them, day after day we turn them away due to a lack of stock or switch them to iPad 2's.

  • Reply 24 of 104
    fredaroonyfredaroony Posts: 619member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post


    Australia doesn't use the term "cellular" or "cellphone", using these terms would draw no more than a blank stare, in much the same way as "4G".


     


    One part America can learn from, notice how the loser had to pay costs, that stops a lot of frivolous lawsuits here.


     


    Is this justice?


     


    Only for the rich.


     


    Maybe now Australians should launch a class action against the ACCC for causing a delay in the supply of new (US & Canada) 4G compatible iPads.


     


    Day after day people keep asking for them, day after day we turn them away due to a lack of stock or switch them to iPad 2's.



    What evidence do you have that this caused a delay in stock of the new iPad?

  • Reply 25 of 104
    palegolaspalegolas Posts: 1,283member


    I think it's fair.


    It's only truly "4G" in two countries in the whole world, and shouldn't be marketed as such in other countries.


    Sorry Apple. Until it's multiband, it's not "4G" in the rest of the world.

  • Reply 26 of 104
    yvo84yvo84 Posts: 84member

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    Originally Posted by GadgetCanada

     


    New Apple ad "The new iPad with 4G. Please note that 4G service may not work where there is no 4G service. For example, Antarctica, Marianas Trench, the Moon, and Australia."




     


    We have 4G actually. Just not the frequency Apple chose.

  • Reply 27 of 104
    geoadmgeoadm Posts: 81member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by yvo84 View Post


     


    We have 4G actually. Just not the frequency Apple chose.



     


    We have 4G on a frequency no one in the rest of the world chose. Not sure how true it is but Ive read it cause we didn't want to lose the awesomeness of analogue tv

  • Reply 28 of 104
    blitz1blitz1 Posts: 412member
    Originally Posted by GadgetCanada 

    New Apple ad "The new iPad with 4G. Please note that 4G service may not work where there is no 4G service. For example, Antarctica, Marianas Trench, the Moon, and Australia."


    The new iPad with 4G only for North America. It fails everywhere else
  • Reply 29 of 104
    fredaroonyfredaroony Posts: 619member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by geoadm View Post


     


    We have 4G on a frequency no one in the rest of the world chose. Not sure how true it is but Ive read it cause we didn't want to lose the awesomeness of analogue tv



    I think you should read some more...

  • Reply 30 of 104
    blitz1blitz1 Posts: 412member
    Whatever the reactions from the Appleoids, bottomline: Apple was wrong and had to pay up
  • Reply 31 of 104
    djsherlydjsherly Posts: 1,022member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tenfingers View Post


    This settlement pisses me off. Apple offered anyone who wanted it a full refund, so how can anyone claim "damages." This is just the government extorting money from a wealthy company to fill their pockets while looking like they are "watching out for consumers." Granted, I can't blame apple for settling to avoid the hassle. 



    There's no damages to prove. It's about misleading advertising. A loss doesn't have to result. The act itself is sufficient.

  • Reply 32 of 104


    I wonder if Apple will extend the refund offer to other countries, such as the UK, where the 4G moniker fell foul of the advertising authorities and had to be changed.


     


    At the very least, Apple should make the offer as an act of good faith and customer service.

  • Reply 33 of 104
    asciiascii Posts: 5,941member


    Seems a bit steep for an advertising breach. Maybe $100k or so would be more reasonable, specially given the term they used was technically correct.

  • Reply 34 of 104
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fredaroony View Post


    What evidence do you have that this caused a delay in stock of the new iPad?



    The "4G" on the box, that us Australians are too retarded to understand.

  • Reply 35 of 104


    in unrelated news, Apple has slightly increased the price of all products sold in Australia.

  • Reply 36 of 104
    fredaroonyfredaroony Posts: 619member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post


    The "4G" on the box, that us Australians are too retarded to understand.



    Ahh so you don't actually have any evidence. Didn't think so...


     


    I'm quite glad you aren't in charge of protecting consumer rights in Australia.

  • Reply 37 of 104
    fredaroonyfredaroony Posts: 619member


    Don't be too surprised if this doesn't happen. Apple were wrong, will now pay and should move on.

  • Reply 38 of 104
    fredaroonyfredaroony Posts: 619member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    Seems a bit steep for an advertising breach. Maybe $100k or so would be more reasonable, specially given the term they used was technically correct.



    You make it sound like it was nothing, they openly broke the law and only fixed it when they were forced to.

  • Reply 39 of 104
    geoadmgeoadm Posts: 81member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fredaroony View Post


    Ahh so you don't actually have any evidence. Didn't think so...


     


    I'm quite glad you aren't in charge of protecting consumer rights in Australia.



     


    Evidence? I don't think you should be asking for evidence. All you do is make smart arse replies giving no evidence at all. 


    And its hardly consumer rights, its more like protecting the stupid. It was written on the Apple site the 4G is not compatible with current Australian networks. All you had to do was read the information before entering credit card details.

  • Reply 40 of 104
    zozmanzozman Posts: 393member


    If Apple was right in this case, they would have won, the end :) thems the breaks

     

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