^ My thinking exactly. Only time I need to check the weather is on the weekend or if I have something planned. In that case I'll open my weather App since a "widget" only shows a summary and is useless for actual planning.
I think animated icons or "live tiles" would be nice for some apps, and Apple could retain tight control over them. Force App developers to provide the artwork for different icons depending on "status" and iOS takes care of actually implementing/animating them. To keep devs from getting out of hand with ridiculous animations Apple could limit them to a few "frames" only and have a limit on file size as well.
I asked this in an earlier thread when iOS 6 first was announced, and did not receive a single reply.
So, I'll ask it again, although this is not necessarily the appropriate place to do it.
Here goes...
We are seeing iOS 6! We have been shown it in some detail at WWDC. The developers have the second beta in their hands.
Is it not the same aspect ratio of iOS 5??? Does this not mean that the rumours of an elongated touch screen for the next iPhone are out to lunch?
Just wondering.
I hope I DO get an answer on this one though.
I can see a 4" screen, with the same aspect ratio, given what I've seen of iOS 6, but will Apple pull something out of it's hat just before unveiling the next iPhone that could actually be implemented on an elongated touch screen with a wider aspect ratio?
I asked this in an earlier thread when iOS 6 first was announced, and did not receive a single reply.
Is it not the same aspect ratio of iOS 5??? Does this not mean that the rumours of an elongated touch screen for the next iPhone are out to lunch?
You didn't get a reply because it's a mildly foolish question. Why in the world would Apple release partial information about new hardware before it's announced? And how could they? Do you know what an aspect ratio is? Absolutely no one on Earth could run the new software if it had a different aspect ratio because we don't own the new hardware.
There is nothing in these betas pointing to the new device. We have to wait until October to learn about it.
Is it not the same aspect ratio of iOS 5??? Does this not mean that the rumours of an elongated touch screen for the next iPhone are out to lunch?
Just wondering.
I hope I DO get an answer on this one though.
I can see a 4" screen, with the same aspect ratio, given what I've seen of iOS 6, but will Apple pull something out of it's hat just before unveiling the next iPhone that could actually be implemented on an elongated touch screen with a wider aspect ratio?
All apps using Apple's standard GUI controls (most productivity and reference apps) could stretch the content area automatically – there is likely nothing to be done. Games and apps using custom GUIs could either appear letterboxed until the developers update them, or Apple could e.g. permanently display the multi-tasking bar on new devices until an app gets updated, or permanently show latest notifications, or or or... This is, of course, if the rumors are true and Apple will only increase the vertical resolution and screen height.
Whatever iOS 6 exposes now (which is: nothing, unless it is very well-hidden) does not give anything away. Personally, I do not need a bigger phone (and see absolutely no need for a even more widescreen format on anything else than a TV set), but Apple may be forced to make the device a bit bigger to make room for a larger battery to accommodate LTE power requirements without reducing the respective timings.
You didn't get a reply because it's a mildly foolish question. Why in the world would Apple release partial information about new hardware before it's announced? And how could they? Do you know what an aspect ratio is? Absolutely no one on Earth could run the new software if it had a different aspect ratio because we don't own the new hardware.
There is nothing in these betas pointing to the new device. We have to wait until October to learn about it.
TS. I love a LOT of your insightful comments and answers, which very often include facts, supporting links and arguments. I also see a LOT of demeaning, highly subjective, and downright rude comments and answers from you as well, which is unfortunate.
If you had read the question through, parsed it properly, and gotten off of your high horse, you would have seen that all I was asking is IF there is a possibility that the developers can work on the software as it is, spend countless hours and money designing their applications to use the same aspect ratio (yes, I do know what an aspect ratio is) and then at the last minute, when an iPhone with a different aspect ratio were announced, to still be able to EASILY redesign/recorde/re-whatever-is-needed to accommodate that said different ASPECT RATIO?
Speaking of mildy foolish: "Absolutely no one on Earth could run the new software if it had a different aspect ratio because we don't own the new hardware." Duh!
I didn't say Apple would release partial information about a newer iPhone. Obviously there would be nothing in the betas pointing to a new device. We obviously have to wait until October to learn about it.
Parse, TS. Parse. The developers were given betas to DEVELOP! My question is can they develop for a different aspect ratio using the current iOS 6 beta, and if not, does this not point to, with a fair degree of accuracy, that either the new phone will have the same aspect ratio, or that any new screen real estate top and/or bottom that has been seen in mockups, will be used exclusively by Apple and not for developer's apps.
If they can't develop for the change in aspect ratio of a taller screen, then does this not almost certainly preclude those mockups as being inaccurate, even when they mention the exact pixel count; or that Apple will retain the extra pixels for their own addition to the UI?
Simple question requiring only a simple answer.
Aspect ratio: The aspect ratio of an image describes the proportional relationship between its width and its height.
So, an increase to a 4" screen, while maintaining the same aspect ratio, and especially if it maintained the same pixel count, would be fine for the developer. A change in aspect ratio could be a major pain if their apps were required to conform to the new aspect ratio.
Is my question really all that hard to understand?
All apps using Apple's standard GUI controls (most productivity and reference apps) could stretch the content area automatically – there is likely nothing to be done. Games and apps using custom GUIs could either appear letterboxed until the developers update them, or Apple could e.g. permanently display the multi-tasking bar on new devices until an app gets updated, or permanently show latest notifications, or or or... This is, of course, if the rumors are true and Apple will only increase the vertical resolution and screen height.
Whatever iOS 6 exposes now (which is: nothing, unless it is very well-hidden) does not give anything away.
Thank you. (I deleted what you need or want personally because it isn't germane to my question.}
This is all I was asking for and I appreciate your reply.
…I was asking is IF there is a possibility that the developers can work on the software as it is, spend countless hours and money designing their applications to use the same aspect ratio (yes, I do know what an aspect ratio is) and then at the last minute, when an iPhone with a different aspect ratio were announced, to still be able to EASILY redesign/recorde/re-whatever-is-needed to accommodate that said different ASPECT RATIO?
I trust Apple to make it as easy as the Retina or iPad transition. No one was told a THING before either the iPhone 4 or iPad were released, and everyone got along just fine.
Speaking of mildy foolish: "Absolutely no one on Earth could run the new software if it had a different aspect ratio because we don't own the new hardware." Duh!
Yes, when obvious questions are asked, the answers are, by nature, also obvious.
I didn't say Apple would release partial information about a newer iPhone. Obviously there would be nothing in the betas pointing to a new device. We obviously have to wait until October to learn about it.
Then why did you ask at all?
The developers were given betas to DEVELOP! My question is can they develop for a different aspect ratio using the current iOS 6 beta, and if not, does this not point to, with a fair degree of accuracy, that either the new phone will have the same aspect ratio, or that any new screen real estate top and/or bottom that has been seen in mockups, will be used exclusively by Apple and not for developer's apps.
It points to nothing because Apple has done this twice before and not told anyone anything.
Is my question really all that hard to understand?
The only thing I'm finding hard to understand is why you didn't think about what happened two years ago (twice, no less) while you were thinking about this.
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^ My thinking exactly. Only time I need to check the weather is on the weekend or if I have something planned. In that case I'll open my weather App since a "widget" only shows a summary and is useless for actual planning.
I think animated icons or "live tiles" would be nice for some apps, and Apple could retain tight control over them. Force App developers to provide the artwork for different icons depending on "status" and iOS takes care of actually implementing/animating them. To keep devs from getting out of hand with ridiculous animations Apple could limit them to a few "frames" only and have a limit on file size as well.
I asked this in an earlier thread when iOS 6 first was announced, and did not receive a single reply.
So, I'll ask it again, although this is not necessarily the appropriate place to do it.
Here goes...
We are seeing iOS 6! We have been shown it in some detail at WWDC. The developers have the second beta in their hands.
Is it not the same aspect ratio of iOS 5??? Does this not mean that the rumours of an elongated touch screen for the next iPhone are out to lunch?
Just wondering.
I hope I DO get an answer on this one though.
I can see a 4" screen, with the same aspect ratio, given what I've seen of iOS 6, but will Apple pull something out of it's hat just before unveiling the next iPhone that could actually be implemented on an elongated touch screen with a wider aspect ratio?
Thanks!
You didn't get a reply because it's a mildly foolish question. Why in the world would Apple release partial information about new hardware before it's announced? And how could they? Do you know what an aspect ratio is? Absolutely no one on Earth could run the new software if it had a different aspect ratio because we don't own the new hardware.
There is nothing in these betas pointing to the new device. We have to wait until October to learn about it.
All apps using Apple's standard GUI controls (most productivity and reference apps) could stretch the content area automatically – there is likely nothing to be done. Games and apps using custom GUIs could either appear letterboxed until the developers update them, or Apple could e.g. permanently display the multi-tasking bar on new devices until an app gets updated, or permanently show latest notifications, or or or... This is, of course, if the rumors are true and Apple will only increase the vertical resolution and screen height.
Whatever iOS 6 exposes now (which is: nothing, unless it is very well-hidden) does not give anything away. Personally, I do not need a bigger phone (and see absolutely no need for a even more widescreen format on anything else than a TV set), but Apple may be forced to make the device a bit bigger to make room for a larger battery to accommodate LTE power requirements without reducing the respective timings.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
You didn't get a reply because it's a mildly foolish question. Why in the world would Apple release partial information about new hardware before it's announced? And how could they? Do you know what an aspect ratio is? Absolutely no one on Earth could run the new software if it had a different aspect ratio because we don't own the new hardware.
There is nothing in these betas pointing to the new device. We have to wait until October to learn about it.
TS. I love a LOT of your insightful comments and answers, which very often include facts, supporting links and arguments. I also see a LOT of demeaning, highly subjective, and downright rude comments and answers from you as well, which is unfortunate.
If you had read the question through, parsed it properly, and gotten off of your high horse, you would have seen that all I was asking is IF there is a possibility that the developers can work on the software as it is, spend countless hours and money designing their applications to use the same aspect ratio (yes, I do know what an aspect ratio is) and then at the last minute, when an iPhone with a different aspect ratio were announced, to still be able to EASILY redesign/recorde/re-whatever-is-needed to accommodate that said different ASPECT RATIO?
Speaking of mildy foolish: "Absolutely no one on Earth could run the new software if it had a different aspect ratio because we don't own the new hardware." Duh!
I didn't say Apple would release partial information about a newer iPhone. Obviously there would be nothing in the betas pointing to a new device. We obviously have to wait until October to learn about it.
Parse, TS. Parse. The developers were given betas to DEVELOP! My question is can they develop for a different aspect ratio using the current iOS 6 beta, and if not, does this not point to, with a fair degree of accuracy, that either the new phone will have the same aspect ratio, or that any new screen real estate top and/or bottom that has been seen in mockups, will be used exclusively by Apple and not for developer's apps.
If they can't develop for the change in aspect ratio of a taller screen, then does this not almost certainly preclude those mockups as being inaccurate, even when they mention the exact pixel count; or that Apple will retain the extra pixels for their own addition to the UI?
Simple question requiring only a simple answer.
Aspect ratio: The aspect ratio of an image describes the proportional relationship between its width and its height.
So, an increase to a 4" screen, while maintaining the same aspect ratio, and especially if it maintained the same pixel count, would be fine for the developer. A change in aspect ratio could be a major pain if their apps were required to conform to the new aspect ratio.
Is my question really all that hard to understand?
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Originally Posted by dreyfus2
All apps using Apple's standard GUI controls (most productivity and reference apps) could stretch the content area automatically – there is likely nothing to be done. Games and apps using custom GUIs could either appear letterboxed until the developers update them, or Apple could e.g. permanently display the multi-tasking bar on new devices until an app gets updated, or permanently show latest notifications, or or or... This is, of course, if the rumors are true and Apple will only increase the vertical resolution and screen height.
Whatever iOS 6 exposes now (which is: nothing, unless it is very well-hidden) does not give anything away.
Thank you. (I deleted what you need or want personally because it isn't germane to my question.}
This is all I was asking for and I appreciate your reply.
I trust Apple to make it as easy as the Retina or iPad transition. No one was told a THING before either the iPhone 4 or iPad were released, and everyone got along just fine.
Yes, when obvious questions are asked, the answers are, by nature, also obvious.
Then why did you ask at all?
It points to nothing because Apple has done this twice before and not told anyone anything.
The only thing I'm finding hard to understand is why you didn't think about what happened two years ago (twice, no less) while you were thinking about this.