I wasn't whining: I was signaling boredom with the topic. That's what 'yawn' means.
I know what you mean, I think, about about niche accessory minutia, but maybe it helps to see these things in terms of global media ecology. Apple is on its way to taking over the world's living rooms, desktops, laps, airplane seats, dashboards and pockets. Eyeglasses may be next. No territory is off limits in this scenario. They are doing it by aetheticizing the tools and the experience of using them.
The problem is that the left-brainers are going to be seething with hate and rage about their freedom to have bad experiences that they can tinker with to alleviate. How are we going to help them get over their ego crises? I'm looking for ideas on this.
I think it's just the opposite. A company like Apple, in an attempt to simplify the experience, HIDES what's behind the curtain and doesn't let you control what's been hidden. That might be fine for most users, but not for those who are concerned with ultimate picture and audio quality. I do think the user interfaces of virtually all home theatre receivers (and some TVs) is a disaster and Apple can probably use its expertise to make this a far better experience. But if, for example, the new Apple TV set is real and it doesn't contain ISF controls or if you couldn't connect it via HDMI to a receiver, no high-end user would ever consider buying it.
Do you have an example of how Apple hides controls that you miss having? I'm seriously asking.
Apple tries to make setting up an audiophile-quality system as easy as anything else it has done with tech, people whine.
The chances of an audiophile using Apple stuff as the basis of their setup is slim to zilch. Unless by audiophile you mean folks who buy the overpriced crap at national chain stores, or the "coffeephiles" who laud *$'s coffee as superior quality
Audiophiles do not cotton to mass marketed mediocre pretentious brands. They don't buy Polk or Yamaha or Denon or Bose or Bang & Olufsen. They buy Conrad Johnson and the like.
Don't get the hostility towards audiophiles, nor the correlation or lack of it for that matter between audiofidelity and Apple.
Those things are on a flawed spectrum and don't really compute.
In the true sense of the word, what is wrong with being a friend of great sound
I love great sound and will go to some lengths to achieve it and hate the consumer settings that mess with the intentions of those who create great sounding stuff as much as I hate the huge 300 button Japanese remotes. Yes I am a nerd and built my own iPhone remote with as few buttons as possible
(but enough;-) to control some esoteric gear, like many people do these days to get the best of both worlds.
Anyway, Apple is not really a player in hi-end audio and focus seems to be more on mass-market market capitalization and nothing wrong with that I guess..;)
I would speculate to say that this thing about surround is probably about "hiding features for consumers who don't have the time or inclination" rather than anything "pro" or "audiophile".
I get the convenience and respect it, but do my best try to stay away from anything that messes with the (sometimes and hopefully) great intentions of creative people.
Love much of my Apple stuff and hate some of it. This one is a possible contender for the hate part
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I know what you mean, I think, about about niche accessory minutia, but maybe it helps to see these things in terms of global media ecology. Apple is on its way to taking over the world's living rooms, desktops, laps, airplane seats, dashboards and pockets. Eyeglasses may be next. No territory is off limits in this scenario. They are doing it by aetheticizing the tools and the experience of using them.
The problem is that the left-brainers are going to be seething with hate and rage about their freedom to have bad experiences that they can tinker with to alleviate. How are we going to help them get over their ego crises? I'm looking for ideas on this.
Do you have an example of how Apple hides controls that you miss having? I'm seriously asking.
Not him, but Apple has completely removed the Activity window from Safari 5.2 and 6.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Apple ignores audiophiles, people whine.
Apple tries to make setting up an audiophile-quality system as easy as anything else it has done with tech, people whine.
The chances of an audiophile using Apple stuff as the basis of their setup is slim to zilch. Unless by audiophile you mean folks who buy the overpriced crap at national chain stores, or the "coffeephiles" who laud *$'s coffee as superior quality
Audiophiles do not cotton to mass marketed mediocre pretentious brands. They don't buy Polk or Yamaha or Denon or Bose or Bang & Olufsen. They buy Conrad Johnson and the like.
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Originally Posted by Flaneur
Do you have an example of how Apple hides controls that you miss having? I'm seriously asking.
One example is the lack of access to the file system in iOS.
Don't get the hostility towards audiophiles, nor the correlation or lack of it for that matter between audiofidelity and Apple.
Those things are on a flawed spectrum and don't really compute.
In the true sense of the word, what is wrong with being a friend of great sound
I love great sound and will go to some lengths to achieve it and hate the consumer settings that mess with the intentions of those who create great sounding stuff as much as I hate the huge 300 button Japanese remotes. Yes I am a nerd and built my own iPhone remote with as few buttons as possible
(but enough;-) to control some esoteric gear, like many people do these days to get the best of both worlds.
Anyway, Apple is not really a player in hi-end audio and focus seems to be more on mass-market market capitalization and nothing wrong with that I guess..;)
I would speculate to say that this thing about surround is probably about "hiding features for consumers who don't have the time or inclination" rather than anything "pro" or "audiophile".
I get the convenience and respect it, but do my best try to stay away from anything that messes with the (sometimes and hopefully) great intentions of creative people.
Love much of my Apple stuff and hate some of it. This one is a possible contender for the hate part
end of rant, fwiw