Can you imagine how SJ would have reacted to this?
If I were Apple I would include in the "statement" a picture of the two devices side by side along with the date they were introduced. "According to the [insert name of the court here] the Samsung device shown here that came out a year after the iPad is not a copy of the iPad. They've instructed us to tell you that. Have a nice day."
Agreed, along with an additional statement to the effect of "However, other courts in the United States, Australia and other countries have ruled that the Samsung device was an improper copy."
Apparently they cant appeal - Apple should move all its infrastructure in the UK to Ireland. Not that it has much.
If I was them, I would move their retail operations also. This just shows that the country has a terribly biased and non-functional legal system. Why do business at all with a country like that?
And so much for those who claimed that Apple's legal losses are not damaging its image with consumers. Even were that true in the past, this would put an absolute end to any notion that consumers are not aware of apple's legal tactics.
Yeah because a single British judge (wearing a whig no doubt) made a ruling?
And so much for those who claimed that Apple's legal losses are not damaging its image with consumers. Even were that true in the past, this would put an absolute end to any notion that consumers are not aware of apple's legal tactics.
Humiliating? To have won patent suits in multiple countries, and then have one judge in the UK issue this bizarre decision? (And I say that as an attorney in Silicon Valley, in an office full of IP lawyers.)
And please cite evidence of how "Apple's legal losses are [] damaging its image with consumers." Would it be the record sales, the cannibalization of PC sales, the ever-rising stock price... ?
Agreed, along with an additional statement to the effect of "However, other courts in the United States, Australia and other countries have ruled that the Samsung device was an improper copy."
I don't believe any US or Australian court has AFAIK. Have any of the other cases progressed past the "likely valid and infringed" stage yet? I believe thus far they've only been preliminary rulings on injunction requests.
Fat chance in hell Apple will do this. They'd remove all business from the UK before doing something that would negatively affect their other patent cases.
Apparently they cant appeal - Apple should move all its infrastructure in the UK to Ireland. Not that it has much.
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Originally Posted by patpatpat
According to the article "Apple does not have the ability to appeal the ruling"
I guess I must be reading the AI article incorrectly when it says, last sentence, para 4: "Apple does have the ability to appeal the judge's decision."
While Apple has had a hard time fighting Samsung in court in the U.K., it has had success against the Galaxy Tab in other countries. For example, last month U.S. District Court Judge Lucky Koh found that Samsung infringed on Apple's design patents, and issued a temporary injunction prohibiting sales of the device.
Apple has also successfully argued for temporary injunctions in Australia and Germany. Samsung dodged the German injunction by releasing a slightly-redesigned Galaxy Tab 10.1N. Meanwhile, the Australian ban was overturned last November.
They need one of those who's suing who and who won where type of world maps.
Samsung Galaxy Tab did not copy the iPad in the UK but did copy the iPad in Australia. Crazy but true.
Perhaps they should close the UK website. I mean shutter it.
It has to start somewhere. I am glad the judge ruled that way. The idea the square is invented by Apple is absolutely absurd. I like Apple products and all, but this one was a stupid suit to begin with.
If all you see is a square, I'm glad you are not a judge, or a designer. Tablets before the iPad were square too - do you think they look the same?
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Originally Posted by malax
Can you imagine how SJ would have reacted to this?
If I were Apple I would include in the "statement" a picture of the two devices side by side along with the date they were introduced. "According to the [insert name of the court here] the Samsung device shown here that came out a year after the iPad is not a copy of the iPad. They've instructed us to tell you that. Have a nice day."
Agreed, along with an additional statement to the effect of "However, other courts in the United States, Australia and other countries have ruled that the Samsung device was an improper copy."
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Originally Posted by asdasd
Apparently they cant appeal - Apple should move all its infrastructure in the UK to Ireland. Not that it has much.
If I was them, I would move their retail operations also. This just shows that the country has a terribly biased and non-functional legal system. Why do business at all with a country like that?
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Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26
How humiliating for Apple.
And so much for those who claimed that Apple's legal losses are not damaging its image with consumers. Even were that true in the past, this would put an absolute end to any notion that consumers are not aware of apple's legal tactics.
Yeah because a single British judge (wearing a whig no doubt) made a ruling?
Sure, we can go with that.
Or not.
Perhaps evidence that the courts are realizing they're being played as pawns in a market competition? Certainly can't be dismissed as a possibility.
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Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26
How humiliating for Apple.
And so much for those who claimed that Apple's legal losses are not damaging its image with consumers. Even were that true in the past, this would put an absolute end to any notion that consumers are not aware of apple's legal tactics.
Humiliating? To have won patent suits in multiple countries, and then have one judge in the UK issue this bizarre decision? (And I say that as an attorney in Silicon Valley, in an office full of IP lawyers.)
And please cite evidence of how "Apple's legal losses are [] damaging its image with consumers." Would it be the record sales, the cannibalization of PC sales, the ever-rising stock price... ?
Made me LOL.
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Originally Posted by Sierrajeff
Agreed, along with an additional statement to the effect of "However, other courts in the United States, Australia and other countries have ruled that the Samsung device was an improper copy."
I don't believe any US or Australian court has AFAIK. Have any of the other cases progressed past the "likely valid and infringed" stage yet? I believe thus far they've only been preliminary rulings on injunction requests.
Fat chance in hell Apple will do this. They'd remove all business from the UK before doing something that would negatively affect their other patent cases.
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Originally Posted by asdasd
Apparently they cant appeal - Apple should move all its infrastructure in the UK to Ireland. Not that it has much.
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Originally Posted by patpatpat
According to the article "Apple does not have the ability to appeal the ruling"
I guess I must be reading the AI article incorrectly when it says, last sentence, para 4: "Apple does have the ability to appeal the judge's decision."
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
While Apple has had a hard time fighting Samsung in court in the U.K., it has had success against the Galaxy Tab in other countries. For example, last month U.S. District Court Judge Lucky Koh found that Samsung infringed on Apple's design patents, and issued a temporary injunction prohibiting sales of the device.
Apple has also successfully argued for temporary injunctions in Australia and Germany. Samsung dodged the German injunction by releasing a slightly-redesigned Galaxy Tab 10.1N. Meanwhile, the Australian ban was overturned last November.
They need one of those who's suing who and who won where type of world maps.
Samsung Galaxy Tab did not copy the iPad in the UK but did copy the iPad in Australia. Crazy but true.
Perhaps they should close the UK website. I mean shutter it.
We have to remember speech is not a fundamental right in the UK. Apparently not even in a court of law.
Stuff like this makes "British justice" an oxymoron.
What a foolish, laughable judge!
No way this can be held up.
Stupid!
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Originally Posted by therealestmc
It has to start somewhere. I am glad the judge ruled that way. The idea the square is invented by Apple is absolutely absurd. I like Apple products and all, but this one was a stupid suit to begin with.
If all you see is a square, I'm glad you are not a judge, or a designer. Tablets before the iPad were square too - do you think they look the same?
This is completely stupid. Time for the Queen to use some of her theoretical reserve powers and intervene!
You only feel that way because you happen to disagree, otherwise you'd likely deem it judicially 'innovative'.
There certainly is now.
Funny how that works. ;-)
"Justice is blind" ?.. Forgive me. I could not resist.
All the more reason for swift, substantive patent/copyright reform........