Apple's Retina display iPad driving enterprise adoption

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  • Reply 21 of 43
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    mstone wrote: »
    What is the disadvantage of having external memory and removable batteries.
    There is nothing wrong with an SD card reader which is an option for the iPad but just for camera compatibility. The problem is that saving to or reading from an external memory card is incompatible with the iOS philosophy. To access a memory card in an unrestricted way would require a user accessible file system and could potentially open up a security loop hole so the iPad is better off using the network to back up.

    With respect to batteries; consumers should not get anywhere close to the types of batteries an iPad uses. That is far too dangerous. Batteries that would be safe for consumers to replace would make the device more than twice as thick and quite bit heavier than it currently is. 10 hours is plenty of time for 99% of typical users. The other 1% who need 11 hours will have to find another solution.

    Great post! I would love to simply tick on the Thumbs Up icon, but cannot press the Add To Reputation button afterwards because I'm on an iPad....
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  • Reply 22 of 43
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by majortom1981 View Post


    The problem for enterprises is that its hard to lock down the ipad. If you use the configurator most options in settings can be changed after the profile is loaded. The only thing that can be truly locked down is installing and deleting programs.


     


    Apple really needs to update this in revisions.



    Really? Can you give us some examples?

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  • Reply 23 of 43
    tyler82tyler82 Posts: 1,118member
    What is the disadvantage of having external memory and removable batteries.

    I realize you are a fanboi, but nevertheless... what is bad about giving the consumer options? If you don't like external memory you don't have to use it, right?

    About the stylus. While a stylus might not be "cool" at the moment, I personally love my fingerprint-free Galaxy Note!!

    Nothing more disgusting than some greasy iPad.... yuk!!

    Does it have a retina display?
    You can use a stylus with an iPad too.
    And the android does not have the app store.
    And talk about being a "fanboi" (an embarrassing term)
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  • Reply 24 of 43
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,759member

    delete.
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  • Reply 25 of 43
    am8449am8449 Posts: 392member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SuperJunior View Post


    Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 >>>> tired, old, boring iPad


     


    In any case, without Steve Jobs, Apple is on the way out, so to speak.


    Patent trolling only goes so far.




    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rabbit_Coach View Post





    Let me guess,

    You are between 14 and 16 years old. You just got a Galaxy Tab II as your birthday present and you like it.


     


    If you google Super Junior, you might get a hint to where this poster's allegiance lies. image  The name probably misled you.

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  • Reply 26 of 43
    tyler82tyler82 Posts: 1,118member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by am8449 View Post


     


    If you google Super Junior, you might get a hint to where this poster's allegiance lies. image  The name probably misled you.



    LOL image

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  • Reply 27 of 43
    jimbo123jimbo123 Posts: 153member
    tyler82 wrote: »
    Love my iPad- in fact, I don't think I will ever buy a laptop again. My next Mac purchase will be a tower for sure. iPad is the ultra portable!

    Totally with you... My iPad 2 is used so much by all my family including my 2 year old!
    Still love my G5 tower though for iDVD etc
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  • Reply 28 of 43
    wovelwovel Posts: 956member
    am8449 wrote: »
    If you google Super Junior, you might get a hint to where this poster's allegiance lies. :lol:   The name probably misled you.


    To borrow from Nissan... Simply Awesome.
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  • Reply 29 of 43
    theothergeofftheothergeoff Posts: 2,081member


    avoiding the super junior thread... (do not... feed... the... trolls.)


     


    This appears to be the normal curve for business adoption.  I don't think RD has anything to do with it other than it being part of the 3rd release cycle, or 2 years after product launch.


     


    Businesses had to


    a) have catalytic drivers (CEO walking in with an iPad and saying... "Make this work for me on our WiFi")


    b) fulfill a business job not being done by a laptop today... highly mobile, highly visual/graphical-depth applications.


    c) Determine TCO and impact on facilities.


     


    Those latter 2 are critical...  if your CEO had an iPad 1 one day one... it would take a business 6 months to find a 'job' for it, beyond being a bigger iPhone/BlackBerry, or PDF viewer/web surfer... then you would need 6 months to pilot the thing (write the app, change the process, evaluate/compare), until you ask IT to support it.


     


    then it would take at least a year for IT (budget cycle) to 


    1) deny they can't support it.


    2) determine how to integrate it into infrastructure (AD, Exchange, backups, VPN, etc)


    3) 'secure it'  (AV/AM, 2FA, DLP etc)


    4) manage it (configuration management, policy enforcement)


    5) procure solutions for 2,3,4  (all pretty much the same solution;-)


     


    To do those 5 things, takes a Microsoft/Cisco shop a year to do... More if you have Gov't/GLBA/PCI, or other regulatory requirements (try to use a PIV card with an iPad... not easy)


     


    When all said and done... As the iPadRD was released, business was 'ready' for the iPad.  It's not RD, it's not the processor... it just takes... time.

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  • Reply 30 of 43
    theothergeofftheothergeoff Posts: 2,081member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by majortom1981 View Post


    The problem for enterprises is that its hard to lock down the ipad. If you use the configurator most options in settings can be changed after the profile is loaded. The only thing that can be truly locked down is installing and deleting programs.


     


    Apple really needs to update this in revisions.



     


    It's really hard to lock down a PC too.  Your point?


     


    do you have an issue with AirWatch?  Seems to work for my corporate needs.

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  • Reply 31 of 43
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    What is the disadvantage of having external memory and removable batteries.

    Let's list just a few of the problems:

    1. Extra points of failure
    2. Place for dirt and grime to get inside the unit
    3. Extra tech support costs when people have problems getting their crappy third party batteries or SD to work
    4. Adding removable batter and SD requires extra reinforcements which make the unit heavier and larger
    5. Added cost of manufacture

    Is that enough for you?

    It really amazes me how people will be happy with a device that has 100 extra features all clumsily bolted on rather than a device that was designed properly in the first place.
    I realize you are a fanboi, but nevertheless... what is bad about giving the consumer options? If you don't like external memory you don't have to use it, right?

    True, but you can't do anything about all the problems above.
    About the stylus. While a stylus might not be "cool" at the moment, I personally love my fingerprint-free Galaxy Note!!

    Nothing more disgusting than some greasy iPad.... yuk!!

    I have a better idea. Wash the cheetohs off your fingers once in a while.

    My iPad and iPhone are never greasy. If they start to get a few fingerprints, a quick wipe against my jeans or shirt and they're as good as new. Apple has a special coating to reduce the problem instead of using a stylus which gets lost and is clumsy to use.
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  • Reply 32 of 43
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    tyler82 wrote: »
    Love my iPad- in fact, I don't think I will ever buy a laptop again. My next Mac purchase will be a tower for sure. iPad is the ultra portable!

    I'm leaning the same way and hoping there is a revolutionary new Mac Pro next year or sooner.
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  • Reply 33 of 43
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by umrk_lab View Post


    No stylus ... no keyboard ... Apple is doomed ...



     


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Just_Me View Post


    you forgot about FLASH, EXTERNAL Memory, removable battery, NFC



     


    And the Nexus 7 will take over the iPad's market share overnight, just like the Fire did. 

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  • Reply 34 of 43
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SuperJunior View Post


     


    What is the disadvantage of having external memory and removable batteries.


     


    I realize you are a fanboi, but nevertheless... what is bad about giving the consumer options? If you don't like external memory you don't have to use it, right?


     


    About the stylus. While a stylus might not be "cool" at the moment, I personally love my fingerprint-free Galaxy Note!!


     


    Nothing more disgusting than some greasy iPad.... yuk!!



     


    Mind telling us why you are here again. Your post history tells a tale of Apple hatred and disgust with every product they make. Are you here then to keep us Apple fans from deluding ourselves any further than we already have? Are you here to save us from the clutches of the Walled Garden? Is this your mission in life?

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  • Reply 35 of 43
    a_greera_greer Posts: 4,594member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post



    So when will the doubters stop calling it "just a toy"?


    The data as outlined is not what the headline implies. It says that consumers say they will use them for business, thats not the same as enterprise IT adoption. They are basically saying that they intend to, for example, check work email from the device.  


     


    An employee buying something and taking it to work doesnt mean that the enterprise is adopting it...a CIO signing a rec for a few hundred for a pilot may be enterprise adoption, but not some random employee buying one and using it "for work"

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  • Reply 36 of 43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mstone View Post


    Really? Can you give us some examples?



    Sure, I am a network admin at a library. I was trying to lock down our ipad2 so that the kids cant change anything since we wanted to loan it out in the building. Some settings specified in a profile can still be changed by that user. One of these settings is the wifi ssid. You can specifiy it in the profile but the user can just go in and change it in settings. Some other settings are just like that. Whats the point of the profiles if the user can just go into settings and change it?


     


    This was using the iphone configuration utility and the other utility apple has for configuring multiple ipads.

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  • Reply 37 of 43
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,759member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SuperJunior View Post


     


    Sadly, you are wrong on all accounts.


    I just think my Tab 2 looks more "modern" than my mother's iPad 2.


    Plus, I cherish freedom and I am not "loyal" or "dedicated" to any company (what a weird concept!).



     


    http://changewaveresearch.com/reports/2012/tablets-20120604


     


    I don't see any point in you passing your anecdotes off as fact or as a reflection of the market. 


     


    Tablets without an Apple logo on them aren't just junk, they're barely in the game. 


     


    As usual, Mom knows best. 

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  • Reply 38 of 43
    minicaptminicapt Posts: 219member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SuperJunior View Post


     


    Sadly, you are wrong on all accounts.


    I just think my Tab 2 looks more "modern" than my mother's iPad 2.


    Plus, I cherish freedom and I am not "loyal" or "dedicated" to any company (what a weird concept!).



    Ah-yup ...


     


     


    Quote:


    "They do not have the same understated and extreme simplicity which is possessed by the Apple design. They are not as cool," Judge Birss said. "The overall impression produced is different."



     


    Cheers

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  • Reply 39 of 43
    maccentricmaccentric Posts: 263member
    Sure, I am a network admin at a library. I was trying to lock down our ipad2 so that the kids cant change anything since we wanted to loan it out in the building. Some settings specified in a profile can still be changed by that user. One of these settings is the wifi ssid. You can specifiy it in the profile but the user can just go in and change it in settings. Some other settings are just like that. Whats the point of the profiles if the user can just go into settings and change it?

    This was using the iphone configuration utility and the other utility apple has for configuring multiple ipads.

    This seems to be addressed in iOS 6...

    http://www.apple.com/ios/ios6/#accessibility
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  • Reply 40 of 43


    Guys, c'mon. You know better to answer a juvenile troll who is obviously looking to pick fights and rehash old tired arguments.

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