So I downloaded Mountain Lion, installed it... It's no different from the previous version, except it has SIRI and Notification centre and some sharing options...
This is software Apple already has developed on iOS and just polished for desktop version...
WHY do we pay for this on MAC? When they give it to us free on iOS?
It doesn't have Siri. Game center is limited because few programs use. OSX is not the same as iOS.
Notification center works as advertised. So really, what's your problem?
I'll send you a check for the &19.99, that your computer will run on for the next year+.
I actually have a problem with the basic functionality that was supposed to be resolved during beta testing. However, because fans test the software (not developers) and all the release notes vs. specific attention go unnoticed. Those problems do not get weeded out.
A good incremental update. I hope they change the notification center icon. It just doesn't feel like something Apple made. I'd rather see notification center slide out when you move the mouse to the right side of the screen. I think the notification center view should also be used for spotlight. That would remove two menu extras that feel out of place. It is kinda like they didn't know how to activate these features so they put them in the menu. I do like how notification center slides out from under the screen. It would be cool if the Dock worked the same way if it were hidden off the screen. Maybe even an onscreen Dock should be in a separate partition like the menu. I have never liked the fact that windows can slide under the Dock.
A good incremental update. I hope they change the notification center icon. It just doesn't feel like something Apple made. I'd rather see notification center slide out when you move the mouse to the right side of the screen. I think the notification center view should also be used for spotlight. That would remove two menu extras that feel out of place. It is kinda like they didn't know how to activate these features so they put them in the menu. I do like how notification center slides out from under the screen. It would be cool if the Dock worked the same way if it were hidden off the screen. Maybe even an onscreen Dock should be in a separate partition like the menu. I have never liked the fact that windows can slide under the Dock.
The icon looks real bad sitting right next to Apperature, doesn't it? Big blue blob, with a white blob... From a girls point of view, it's the ugliest thing there... Closest thing would be ....(Finder) but I'm afraid to mention that, lest they remove it!
Already my Mac Book Pro Retina shipped with 'Native Born' Lion, which I didn't realize they got rid of even the home folder, let alone the Application and Documents folder. It took me a long time to set it up right. Apparently, so it looked like Snow Leopard. I'm curious what computers with 'Native' Mountan Lion will look like...
Er, what? Notification Center doesn't have an application icon. And the icon it does have lacks blue entirely.
None of these things happened.
Yes it does have an icon. I'm very sorry, it's called "Messenger". ...and I stand by my previous statement.
Also, yes it did happen. On a newly purchased retina MacBook, the 'user' account is hidden from view, along with the main drive. Also, the documents folder and the application folder is not there on initial startup. Don't post that if you didn't see or experience it.
Er, what? Notification Center doesn't have an application icon. And the icon it does have lacks blue entirely.
None of these things happened.
O.K. To clarify for some people I will try to talk slower.
The new icon is not for Notifications. I was misunderstood. Sorry. People did not know what I was speaking about because I replied to what a person wrote before me.
There is a new icon for iMessage which is very big and very blue. It also has a very big white blob in it with some dots. Smarter people can not see the icon. It was meant for us. Only us folk use this icon, and only us folk notice our home folder is gone.
Me have to leave now. Me hungry.
Really? C'mon. Don't take me as a complete fool. Maybe a fool here and there, but not completely. Please!
Er, what? Notification Center doesn't have an application icon. And the icon it does have lacks blue entirely.
None of these things happened.
On a more peer to peer point. (peer to peer doesn't really work in this case because I'm guessing you may be much older than I) Please, get a new Mac with Lion installed Natively. Meaning Snow Leopard was not on it beforehand. Then let me know if I missed something.
The Native "Lion" approach is more toward "Launch Pad". That's where all of your apps are, and there is a folder there (iOS folder) for utilities.
Still don't believe me, go to an Apple store. There must be some there with Lion installed Natively.
On a more peer to peer point. (peer to peer doesn't really work in this case because I'm guessing you may be much older than I) Please, get a new Mac with Lion installed Natively. Meaning Snow Leopard was not on it beforehand. Then let me know if I missed something.
The Native "Lion" approach is more toward "Launch Pad". That's where all of your apps are, and there is a folder there (iOS folder) for utilities.
Still don't believe me, go to an Apple store. There must be some there with Lion installed Natively.
I think if your home folder is missing then it may be a serious issue with your hard drive. (I have had folders disappear with a previous hard drive — prior to ML — and had to restore them from a back up. I don't think what you are seeing is normal behaviour.
I think if your home folder is missing then it may be a serious issue with your hard drive. (I have had folders disappear with a previous hard drive — prior to ML — and had to restore them from a back up. I don't think what you are seeing is normal behaviour.
No. It's not missing. It's just not visible at start up.
Text misses the natural conversation overtones that's supposed to reside in a normal conversation.
It is there. But you actually have to search for it, and then set it up to be seen each time. If this is really so hard to believe I'll do screen shots. One for each interval with notes.
I have had issues with Macs before. Many, many issues. Hard drives 'Un-mounting' when my brother plays Diablo 3 (I think that's right), iTunes librarys corrupting for no apparent reason (only after iTunes Match). Literally playing your music the whole day for a party, then it just stops after 7 or 9 hours. You check your computer and iTunes corrupted and Apple wants a message.
I'm not as un-intellegent or illiterate as the moderators think. When the rest of my class graduated high school I graduated college.
Yes, I'm young. But I'm not stupid. (hopefully this isn't leading into a condescending post...)
O.K. Maybe I received a weird mac. However you would have to times that by two. My retina macbook, and my uncles, showed up with the same thing... No "user" 'folder' so to speak. No "Application" folder and no "Documents" folder. However, they are all there under "Launch Pad". You have to set it up specifically to have the same look as you would with Snow Leopard.
Again, I could be missing something. Where they sold 20million Mac's, statistics states there will be problems.
Also on my current iMac, which was Snow Leopard born (Lion upgraded, and now Mountain Lion to my display horror), everything is there. I must be missing something.
(I think Undead Jobs would STILL run rings around Redmond's regents...)
Not contributing anything to the discussion, but that reminds me of Shaun of the Dead, when Bill Nighy become a zombie in the car and Shaun tells his mom that there is nothing of her husband left in the zombie - zombie bill turns off the stereo that is blaring rock!
Not contributing anything to the discussion, but that reminds me of Shaun of the Dead, when Bill Nighy become a zombie in the car and Shaun tells his mom that there is nothing of her husband left in the zombie - zombie bill turns off the stereo that is blaring rock!
No. It's not missing. It's just not visible at start up.
Text misses the natural conversation overtones that's supposed to reside in a normal conversation.
It is there. But you actually have to search for it, and then set it up to be seen each time. If this is really so hard to believe I'll do screen shots. One for each interval with notes.
I have had issues with Macs before. Many, many issues. Hard drives 'Un-mounting' when my brother plays Diablo 3 (I think that's right), iTunes librarys corrupting for no apparent reason (only after iTunes Match). Literally playing your music the whole day for a party, then it just stops after 7 or 9 hours. You check your computer and iTunes corrupted and Apple wants a message.
I'm not as un-intellegent or illiterate as the moderators think. When the rest of my class graduated high school I graduated college.
Yes, I'm young. But I'm not stupid. (hopefully this isn't leading into a condescending post...)
O.K. Maybe I received a weird mac. However you would have to times that by two. My retina macbook, and my uncles, showed up with the same thing... No "user" 'folder' so to speak. No "Application" folder and no "Documents" folder. However, they are all there under "Launch Pad". You have to set it up specifically to have the same look as you would with Snow Leopard.
Again, I could be missing something. Where they sold 20million Mac's, statistics states there will be problems.
Also on my current iMac, which was Snow Leopard born (Lion upgraded, and now Mountain Lion to my display horror), everything is there. I must be missing something.
Thank you for your thoughtful post!
OK I wasn't assuming that you didn't know what you were talking about. But could you just document the steps you took to make these folders visible again? Where are the checkboxes that need to be checked?
OK I wasn't assuming that you didn't know what you were talking about. But could you just document the steps you took to make these folders visible again? Where are the checkboxes that need to be checked?
Yes, thank you. However at this point it will have to wait until morning. I'll save this spot.
Yes, thank you. However at this point it will have to wait until morning. I'll save this spot.
OK so I will note that I just did a search of the system preferences and I could find nothing — so if this had happened to me I would have been screeeeeeewed!
I actually have a problem with the basic functionality that was supposed to be resolved during beta testing. However, because fans test the software (not developers) and all the release notes vs. specific attention go unnoticed. Those problems do not get weeded out.
They are a bunch of problems that get reported and are not solved before the final release is unleashed. The marketing guys have their priorities, developers have others. The one I’m thinking of concerns Mail and it is still opened. Under certain conditions Mail will hang forever, you have to manually send a SIGTERM signal to blow it away.
Now, external developers are primarily concerned with testing or improving their own products. The vast majority of them will discover bugs tied to Xcode or parts of the AppKit/CoreFoundation frameworks they use; Others will pass unnoticed. Some users involved in a test program do get pre-release versions and are supposed to report on UI and basic tools.
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It doesn't have Siri. Game center is limited because few programs use. OSX is not the same as iOS.
Notification center works as advertised. So really, what's your problem?
I'll send you a check for the &19.99, that your computer will run on for the next year+.
I actually have a problem with the basic functionality that was supposed to be resolved during beta testing. However, because fans test the software (not developers) and all the release notes vs. specific attention go unnoticed. Those problems do not get weeded out.
Enjoy your computer! It's probably a good one.
A good incremental update. I hope they change the notification center icon. It just doesn't feel like something Apple made. I'd rather see notification center slide out when you move the mouse to the right side of the screen. I think the notification center view should also be used for spotlight. That would remove two menu extras that feel out of place. It is kinda like they didn't know how to activate these features so they put them in the menu. I do like how notification center slides out from under the screen. It would be cool if the Dock worked the same way if it were hidden off the screen. Maybe even an onscreen Dock should be in a separate partition like the menu. I have never liked the fact that windows can slide under the Dock.
Originally Posted by werdnanotroh
It's no different from the previous version…
Except it is.
…except it has SIRI…
Except it doesn't.
This is software Apple already has developed on iOS and just polished for desktop version...
Of course it is.
WHY do we pay for this on MAC? When they give it to us free on iOS?
…really?
The icon looks real bad sitting right next to Apperature, doesn't it? Big blue blob, with a white blob... From a girls point of view, it's the ugliest thing there... Closest thing would be ....(Finder) but I'm afraid to mention that, lest they remove it!
Already my Mac Book Pro Retina shipped with 'Native Born' Lion, which I didn't realize they got rid of even the home folder, let alone the Application and Documents folder. It took me a long time to set it up right. Apparently, so it looked like Snow Leopard. I'm curious what computers with 'Native' Mountan Lion will look like...
What will be missing next?
Originally Posted by Vadania
The icon looks real bad sitting right next to Apperature, doesn't it? Big blue blob, with a white blob..
Er, what? Notification Center doesn't have an application icon. And the icon it does have lacks blue entirely.
…they got rid of even the home folder, let alone the Application and Documents folder.
None of these things happened.
Is it possible to block moderators? I am tired of your petulant "answers" spamming up the forums, which are otherwise utilized by thoughtful people.
Yes it does have an icon. I'm very sorry, it's called "Messenger". ...and I stand by my previous statement.
Also, yes it did happen. On a newly purchased retina MacBook, the 'user' account is hidden from view, along with the main drive. Also, the documents folder and the application folder is not there on initial startup. Don't post that if you didn't see or experience it.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Er, what? Notification Center doesn't have an application icon. And the icon it does have lacks blue entirely.
None of these things happened.
I think she means the Messages icon.
On the second: yes, none of these things have happened here either.
O.K. To clarify for some people I will try to talk slower.
The new icon is not for Notifications. I was misunderstood. Sorry. People did not know what I was speaking about because I replied to what a person wrote before me.
There is a new icon for iMessage which is very big and very blue. It also has a very big white blob in it with some dots. Smarter people can not see the icon. It was meant for us. Only us folk use this icon, and only us folk notice our home folder is gone.
Me have to leave now. Me hungry.
Really? C'mon. Don't take me as a complete fool. Maybe a fool here and there, but not completely. Please!
Originally Posted by Vadania
Yes it does have an icon. I'm very sorry, it's called "Messenger".
I see; no worries. You can always change icons. I find Messages to be better than iChat's.
…the 'user' account is hidden from view…
That's not right, though. You're trying to tell me the home folder of the default user is a hidden file, inaccessible? Much less any of the others?
Originally Posted by Vadania
Condescening post
You quoted someone talking about Notification Center. There's no way anyone could have known you were talking about Messages.
On a more peer to peer point. (peer to peer doesn't really work in this case because I'm guessing you may be much older than I) Please, get a new Mac with Lion installed Natively. Meaning Snow Leopard was not on it beforehand. Then let me know if I missed something.
The Native "Lion" approach is more toward "Launch Pad". That's where all of your apps are, and there is a folder there (iOS folder) for utilities.
Still don't believe me, go to an Apple store. There must be some there with Lion installed Natively.
Condesending post? I will admit I may have crossed a small line there, but at least I didn't "punch a baby" with my frustration.
Most of your posts are condescending to the people who like to read this site and post on the forum.
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Originally Posted by Vadania
On a more peer to peer point. (peer to peer doesn't really work in this case because I'm guessing you may be much older than I) Please, get a new Mac with Lion installed Natively. Meaning Snow Leopard was not on it beforehand. Then let me know if I missed something.
The Native "Lion" approach is more toward "Launch Pad". That's where all of your apps are, and there is a folder there (iOS folder) for utilities.
Still don't believe me, go to an Apple store. There must be some there with Lion installed Natively.
I think if your home folder is missing then it may be a serious issue with your hard drive. (I have had folders disappear with a previous hard drive — prior to ML — and had to restore them from a back up. I don't think what you are seeing is normal behaviour.
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Originally Posted by Eluard
I think if your home folder is missing then it may be a serious issue with your hard drive. (I have had folders disappear with a previous hard drive — prior to ML — and had to restore them from a back up. I don't think what you are seeing is normal behaviour.
No. It's not missing. It's just not visible at start up.
Text misses the natural conversation overtones that's supposed to reside in a normal conversation.
It is there. But you actually have to search for it, and then set it up to be seen each time. If this is really so hard to believe I'll do screen shots. One for each interval with notes.
I have had issues with Macs before. Many, many issues. Hard drives 'Un-mounting' when my brother plays Diablo 3 (I think that's right), iTunes librarys corrupting for no apparent reason (only after iTunes Match). Literally playing your music the whole day for a party, then it just stops after 7 or 9 hours. You check your computer and iTunes corrupted and Apple wants a message.
I'm not as un-intellegent or illiterate as the moderators think. When the rest of my class graduated high school I graduated college.
Yes, I'm young. But I'm not stupid. (hopefully this isn't leading into a condescending post...)
O.K. Maybe I received a weird mac. However you would have to times that by two. My retina macbook, and my uncles, showed up with the same thing... No "user" 'folder' so to speak. No "Application" folder and no "Documents" folder. However, they are all there under "Launch Pad". You have to set it up specifically to have the same look as you would with Snow Leopard.
Again, I could be missing something. Where they sold 20million Mac's, statistics states there will be problems.
Also on my current iMac, which was Snow Leopard born (Lion upgraded, and now Mountain Lion to my display horror), everything is there. I must be missing something.
Thank you for your thoughtful post!
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Originally Posted by Doug Halfen
Wha? You no like zombies???
(I think Undead Jobs would STILL run rings around Redmond's regents...)
Not contributing anything to the discussion, but that reminds me of Shaun of the Dead, when Bill Nighy become a zombie in the car and Shaun tells his mom that there is nothing of her husband left in the zombie - zombie bill turns off the stereo that is blaring rock!
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Originally Posted by BestKeptSecret
Not contributing anything to the discussion, but that reminds me of Shaun of the Dead, when Bill Nighy become a zombie in the car and Shaun tells his mom that there is nothing of her husband left in the zombie - zombie bill turns off the stereo that is blaring rock!
Awesome movie! So many cool quotes from that one.
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Originally Posted by Vadania
No. It's not missing. It's just not visible at start up.
Text misses the natural conversation overtones that's supposed to reside in a normal conversation.
It is there. But you actually have to search for it, and then set it up to be seen each time. If this is really so hard to believe I'll do screen shots. One for each interval with notes.
I have had issues with Macs before. Many, many issues. Hard drives 'Un-mounting' when my brother plays Diablo 3 (I think that's right), iTunes librarys corrupting for no apparent reason (only after iTunes Match). Literally playing your music the whole day for a party, then it just stops after 7 or 9 hours. You check your computer and iTunes corrupted and Apple wants a message.
I'm not as un-intellegent or illiterate as the moderators think. When the rest of my class graduated high school I graduated college.
Yes, I'm young. But I'm not stupid. (hopefully this isn't leading into a condescending post...)
O.K. Maybe I received a weird mac. However you would have to times that by two. My retina macbook, and my uncles, showed up with the same thing... No "user" 'folder' so to speak. No "Application" folder and no "Documents" folder. However, they are all there under "Launch Pad". You have to set it up specifically to have the same look as you would with Snow Leopard.
Again, I could be missing something. Where they sold 20million Mac's, statistics states there will be problems.
Also on my current iMac, which was Snow Leopard born (Lion upgraded, and now Mountain Lion to my display horror), everything is there. I must be missing something.
Thank you for your thoughtful post!
OK I wasn't assuming that you didn't know what you were talking about. But could you just document the steps you took to make these folders visible again? Where are the checkboxes that need to be checked?
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Originally Posted by Eluard
OK I wasn't assuming that you didn't know what you were talking about. But could you just document the steps you took to make these folders visible again? Where are the checkboxes that need to be checked?
Yes, thank you. However at this point it will have to wait until morning. I'll save this spot.
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Originally Posted by Vadania
Yes, thank you. However at this point it will have to wait until morning. I'll save this spot.
OK so I will note that I just did a search of the system preferences and I could find nothing — so if this had happened to me I would have been screeeeeeewed!
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Originally Posted by Vadania
I actually have a problem with the basic functionality that was supposed to be resolved during beta testing. However, because fans test the software (not developers) and all the release notes vs. specific attention go unnoticed. Those problems do not get weeded out.
They are a bunch of problems that get reported and are not solved before the final release is unleashed. The marketing guys have their priorities, developers have others. The one I’m thinking of concerns Mail and it is still opened. Under certain conditions Mail will hang forever, you have to manually send a SIGTERM signal to blow it away.
Now, external developers are primarily concerned with testing or improving their own products. The vast majority of them will discover bugs tied to Xcode or parts of the AppKit/CoreFoundation frameworks they use; Others will pass unnoticed. Some users involved in a test program do get pre-release versions and are supposed to report on UI and basic tools.