Apple strikes back at Samsung with 2005 iPhone prototype design

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  • Reply 41 of 80
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,305member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EricTheHalfBee View Post


    Only touchwiz? Are you blind as well?


     


    The funny thing is if Google had stuck to their original idea for Android we'd have RIM suing Samsung for copying the Blackberry instead of Apple suing for copying the iPhone.



    That's become a silly talking point. Of course no company would stick with a failing design, not even RIM themselves. Nor is Apple ignoring the public's desire for change with a larger display slated.


     


    Trying to ignore the iPhone five years ago was clearly impossible unless engineers and designers were kept in caves without outside contact 24 hours a day. 

  • Reply 42 of 80
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,746member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spacepower View Post





    Where are all of the Samsung design prototypes?


     


    Cupertino, Apple's R&D dept.

  • Reply 43 of 80
    So much for all the Android fan's BS claims that the LG Prada and F700 were designed before iPhone.
  • Reply 44 of 80

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    That's become a silly talking point. Of course no company would stick with a failing design not even RIM themselves. Nor is Apple  ignoring the public's desire for change with a larger display slated.


     


    Trying to ignore the iPhone five years ago was clearly impossible unless engineers and designers were kept in caves without outside contact 24 hours a day. 



    It's 'silly' only for people like you.


     


    Companies like RIMM and Nokia never got the memo apparently. Or even if they did, the fact that such superbly talented and well-resourced companies as those two couldn't get close to replicating Apple -- but somehow, suddenly Samsung was able to -- tells you all you need know.

  • Reply 45 of 80
    Good. The final nail in the coffin for the idiots who keep bringing up the Samsung F700 or LG Prada (both terrible phones) and say Apple "borrowed" from them.

    Not a chance. Unless you bookmark this post for future smack downs, the fandroids will not get the message and keep posting their lol pics. It's the Internet.
  • Reply 46 of 80
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    That's become a silly talking point. Of course no company would stick with a failing design not even RIM themselves. Nor is Apple  ignoring the public's desire for change with a larger display slated.

    Trying to ignore the iPhone five years ago was clearly impossible unless engineers and designers were kept in caves without outside contact 24 hours a day. 

    So you admited Google didn't have a clue about what kind of phone they should build and go with the flow? Thank you for being honest.
  • Reply 47 of 80
    rogifan wrote: »
    Ha and the clowns on Engadget are claiming Apple backdated this design to 2005, because well, they did the same thing with stock options. :lol:

    Evidence? Oh wait, it's Engadget.
  • Reply 48 of 80
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Drealoth View Post


    Selfish, I know, but I am really enjoying getting to see all of these prototype designs.



     


    Me too.  


    I guess all that "doubling down" on secrecy didn't work out so well. :-)


     


    They've probably leaked more information, and more frequently, since Jobs died than they did during the entire history of the company previous to that.  


     


    There hasn't been a product since the original iPad that wasn't leaked in great detail months ahead of time.  Before that, you have to go all the way back to the iPhone 3G or the original MacBook Air to find another product that wasn't leaked.  

  • Reply 49 of 80
    s4boness4bones Posts: 22member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Techstalker View Post


    The fact this came to trial is just ridiculous. Its beyond stupid. So a month of discussing different versions of squares and corners and FRAND 3G patents.


     


    What happens after this trial. 


     


    NOTHING.


     


    Apple will sell a bunch of Iphone 5 (iphones)


    Samsung will sell a Bunch of SGS III (galaxy phones)


     


    If these companies were not so petty. This money that is being wasted could of been used for I dont know, innovation. 



    such an idiotic thing to say...Innovation..


     


    Do you really think apple is gonna use all 100 billion on litigation?? or maybe use 99billion and 1 billion on innovation??


     


    Apple and samsung have PLENTY of money..

  • Reply 50 of 80
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,746member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Techstalker View Post


    The fact this came to trial is just ridiculous. Its beyond stupid. So a month of discussing different versions of squares and corners and FRAND 3G patents.


     


    What happens after this trial. 


     


    NOTHING.


     


    Apple will sell a bunch of Iphone 5 (iphones)


    Samsung will sell a Bunch of SGS III (galaxy phones)


     


    If these companies were not so petty. This money that is being wasted could of been used for I dont know, innovation. 



     


    The money Apple "wastes" on deterring current infringers and would-be infringers from pilfering their most important asset (Intellectual Property), is next to nothing. A drop in the bucket. Their legal feels don't amount to billions, or even hundreds of millions.


     


    LOL 

  • Reply 51 of 80
    fracfrac Posts: 480member
    ochyming wrote: »

    No wonder he is from UK.
    UK no longer produce durable anything.

    UK used to make the coolest and fastest cars and machinery, now all they want is cheap-cheap.
    Really, really SAD.

    ARM Holdings, BskyB, Rolls Royce Group, AstraZeneca, Burberry Group, GlaxoSmithKline and a few others including my local pub micro brewery would beg to differ.
  • Reply 52 of 80
    mcrsmcrs Posts: 172member


    Who was the process server? It's prolly that guy from the movie "Pineapple Express", spending most of his time high on weeds.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post


    His lawyer says he won't testify because the subpoena was not properly served.  I noticed on some of the latest patent filings that he was no longer listed as being from San Fran.  Sounds like he left over health issues.


  • Reply 53 of 80
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member


    I don't doubt companies get inspiration from each other.  But there is a difference between being inspired by someone's design principles and making them your own and blatant copying.  The Samsung Galaxy Ace Plus is just a blatant copy of the iPhone 3G.  Seeing phones like the Lumia, One X and even Samsung's Galaxy S III prove that there is not just one way to design a smartphone. That argument is so lame. And last time I checked Apple isn't suing Nokia, HTC over their phone designs, nor Samsung over the Galaxy S III design.


     


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  • Reply 54 of 80
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,305member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    It's 'silly' only for people like you.


     


    Companies like RIMM and Nokia never got the memo apparently. Or even if they did, the fact that such superbly talented and well-resourced companies as those two couldn't get close to replicating Apple -- but somehow, suddenly Samsung was able to -- tells you all you need know.



    The OP's comment was about the design direction Google took, not the Samsung iPhone imitation. Google didn't copy iOS IMHO, instead influenced by Apple's better ideas. Nothing wrong with that is there?

  • Reply 55 of 80
    tooltalktooltalk Posts: 766member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post


    His lawyer says he won't testify because the subpoena was not properly served.  I noticed on some of the latest patent filings that he was no longer listed as being from San Fran.  Sounds like he left over health issues.



     


    Can he just quit like that, just weeks before the trial?  

  • Reply 56 of 80
    sockrolidsockrolid Posts: 2,788member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post



    [...] The Wall Street Journal suggests the lawsuit is a "proxy" for Google, maker of the Android mobile operating system found on most of Samsung's smartphones and tablets. If Apple were to earn a strong victory against Samsung, the implications could ripple beyond the South Korean electronics maker and affect Google's other Android partners from around the world.


     


    That's exactly why Google themselves told Samsung to stop copying Apple designs.


    Because Samsung isn't the only entity at risk here.  The other (surviving) Android tablet makers,


    and Android itself, are all under the gun.


     


    Just Bing (or DuckDuckGo) the following phrases to find articles about the warnings:


     


    “[a]ll you have to do is cover up the Samsung logo and it’s difficult to find anything different from the iPhone.”


     


    Samsung’s “P1” and “P3” tablets (Galaxy Tab and Galaxy Tab 10.1) were “too similar” to the iPad


     


    Galaxy S “looked like it copied the iPhone too much,” and that “innovation is needed.”


     


    But who knows what incriminating evidence Samsung and Google have destroyed.  Samsung his already in hot


    water for "routinely destroying" evidence that could have been used against them:


     


    http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/151516/samsungs-evidence-destruction-will-be-factor-in-upcoming-trial

  • Reply 57 of 80
    tooltalktooltalk Posts: 766member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post


     


    Cupertino, Apple's R&D dept.



     


     


    Apple's R&D dept?  You mean Marketing dept?

  • Reply 58 of 80
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,305member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SockRolid View Post


    But who knows what incriminating evidence Samsung and Google have destroyed.  Samsung his already in hot


    water for "routinely destroying" evidence that could have been used against them:


     


    http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/151516/samsungs-evidence-destruction-will-be-factor-in-upcoming-trial



    Where did you see Google accused of destroying any evidence in the Samsung/Apple case? 


     


    ... and when did Google become a defendant in any Apple lawsuit?

  • Reply 59 of 80
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,305member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tooltalk View Post


     


    Can he just quit like that, just weeks before the trial?  



    I don't know that it would make any difference in this particular case now. Judge Koh won't allow that as evidence anyway. She's trying to run a tight ship.


     




    With that said this isn't the first time Samsung has tried to depose him. Apple seems to have attempted to keep him "unavailable", which does leave the reasons open to conjecture. 


     


    According to an article at AllThing'sD:


     


    It’s not the first time that Samsung has struggled to get ahold of Nishibori. The company has argued in court papers that Apple would not make Nishibori available for months, noting that he was on a leave of absence.


    Samsung submitted Twitter postings from Nishibori, in which he talked of world travel and running 10K races. Samsung eventually took his deposition in May 2012.


     


    The letter from his attorney can also be found there:


    http://allthingsd.com/20120729/key-witness-no-longer-works-at-apple-doesnt-want-to-testify-at-samsung-trial/

  • Reply 60 of 80
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 21,305member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by matrix07 View Post





    So you admited Google didn't have a clue about what kind of phone they should build and go with the flow? Thank you for being honest.


    Of course they followed the market direction, but Google wasn't trying to build a phone business to begin with. They were trying to design an OS for other players to use with smartphones, and realized that the focus should be on a touchscreen rather than a keyboard after seeing what the iPhone offered. Were they wrong in deciding that? Plainly not. Another reason the Blackberry argument is silly.

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