How about the fact that this adapter doesn't cost anywhere near $29 to make, they don't market it on TV and there is no reason to charge that much other than standard Apple high margins.
You really don't seem to understand what you're talking about, so I'd suggest boning up on why these prices are the way they are.
I can't wait to see what its going to cost me to get a 30 pin to 19 pin adapter so I can use my iPod and iPhone in my car when the next one arrives, of course that too will likely cost $29.
Never mind that its closest analogue, the MagSafe-MagSafe2 adapter, is $10.
How about the fact that this adapter doesn't cost anywhere near $29 to make, they don't market it on TV and there is no reason to charge that much other than standard Apple high margins. I can't wait to see what its going to cost me to get a 30 pin to 19 pin adapter so I can use my iPod and iPhone in my car when the next one arrives, of course that too will likely cost $29.
I've always thought this too. Apple charges waaayyy too much for their adapters. I didn't buy the VGA and DVI adapters from Apple because they're overpriced. Bought them elsewhere for $7, yes $7 and its the exact same thing. Works great every time! I'll wait for a cheaper solution if I were to ever need this.
I'd rather just have a native TB interface to the RAID myself.
Me too, but the QX2 was $279 (I already had 4 2TB drives ready to get slotted in) and a Promise Pegasus TB raid was a TON more money. I considered it heh. I had 2 2TB drives from last summer when my PC died and when I decided it would be more cost effective to go this route I ordered 2 more identical drives from Newegg and got the QX2 from OWC. FW800 and e-SATA are still very solid options at least
Fortunately, built-in legacy options are always available. Like that new "Macbook Pro" with VGA.
I don't mind moving to adapters if it helps the main product's price, size, or other features. All the features of Firewire most likely work through this official adapter, since they are both active, intelligent, and Apple-developed protocols.
There is a usb3 to eSata adapter cable available on Amazon for 20 bucks: works fine
Doesn't help me very well when I have a Mid 2011 Mac Mini that has USB2. Also, USB3 is still slower than eSATA and USB2 is even worse. There are reasons I asked for a TB to eSATA adapter. TB is faster than eSATA and I'm currently not using that port for anything at all. I think I have every other port on my Mini filled up tho
Great news! This was only thing holding me back from buying a new 13" MBA. I have a number of FW800 drives used for my Lightroom Library and full backup rotation, which I've been unwilling to replace until more FW800/USB3 drives are available (most FW800 drives are still USB2).
I've always thought this too. Apple charges waaayyy too much for their adapters. I didn't buy the VGA and DVI adapters from Apple because they're overpriced. Bought them elsewhere for $7, yes $7 and its the exact same thing. Works great every time! I'll wait for a cheaper solution if I were to ever need this.
We've got a bunch of those "$7 video adapters" at work -- a BUNCH.
We have to keep buying more because most of those adapters don't work after about a week. It would have been far cheaper to buy Apple adapters.
How about the fact that this adapter doesn't cost anywhere near $29 to make, they don't market it on TV and there is no reason to charge that much other than standard Apple high margins. I can't wait to see what its going to cost me to get a 30 pin to 19 pin adapter so I can use my iPod and iPhone in my car when the next one arrives, of course that too will likely cost $29.
Cost of manufacture has little to do with retail pricing. What the market will bear is the over riding factor.
My guess is that Apple's beancounters calculated that profit would be maximized at the $29 price point.
Is it possible to use this to connect an iMac with FireWire to a Thunderbolt external hard drive?
Is TB the same end on either side? I'm pretty sure this is TB Male to FW female. TB is not designed to run over Firewire tho. TB is platform agnostic and designed to allow those other protocols over it. My guess would be no, but I don't work for Apple, so a guess is all it is. I think its a good one tho.
How about a FireWire 400 to Thunderbolt Y adapter so I can connect my original 5G iPod and my G4 cube at the same time? SRSLY! Seriously I wouldn't mind being able to burn DVDs on my firewire400 DVD writer. This accessory is the only thing keeping me from ordering a retina MacBook ...
Why can't you connect a Firewire 400 device to an 800 port? it's only a speed difference, and there has to be arbitrary clocks that could be doubled, allowing communictation, right? I don't know too much about Firewire.
Why can't you connect a Firewire 400 device to an 800 port? it's only a speed difference, and there has to be arbitrary clocks that could be doubled, allowing communictation, right? I don't know too much about Firewire.
Yes, FireWire is backward compatible. All you'd need is a "bilingual" cable with the appropriate 6-pin FireWire400 connector on one side and 9-pin FireWire 800 connector on the other.
But that won't get DogCowabunga the Y-cable he's hoping for (but doesn't exist). What he's looking for is a FireWire device that can be daisy-chained.
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Originally Posted by RaptorOO7
How about the fact that this adapter doesn't cost anywhere near $29 to make, they don't market it on TV and there is no reason to charge that much other than standard Apple high margins.
You really don't seem to understand what you're talking about, so I'd suggest boning up on why these prices are the way they are.
I can't wait to see what its going to cost me to get a 30 pin to 19 pin adapter so I can use my iPod and iPhone in my car when the next one arrives, of course that too will likely cost $29.
Never mind that its closest analogue, the MagSafe-MagSafe2 adapter, is $10.
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Thanks for the heads up.
Just ordered mine in Hong Kong online store.
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Originally Posted by RaptorOO7
How about the fact that this adapter doesn't cost anywhere near $29 to make, they don't market it on TV and there is no reason to charge that much other than standard Apple high margins. I can't wait to see what its going to cost me to get a 30 pin to 19 pin adapter so I can use my iPod and iPhone in my car when the next one arrives, of course that too will likely cost $29.
I've always thought this too. Apple charges waaayyy too much for their adapters. I didn't buy the VGA and DVI adapters from Apple because they're overpriced. Bought them elsewhere for $7, yes $7 and its the exact same thing. Works great every time! I'll wait for a cheaper solution if I were to ever need this.
How about Thunderbolt to SCSI???
Originally Posted by AppleZilla
How about Thunderbolt to SCSI???
Thunderbolt-punch card dongle. A bargain at $399.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Thunderbolt-punch card dongle. A bargain at $399.
Actually, that would be a bargain.
SCSI... Really???
This is good news, a very very welcome addition to Thunderbolt. The lack of a FW adapter was an issue for a lot of people I know.
It would be good to know if you can Target Disk mode through it and boot off it.
FW800 is a great port, but I imagine this adapter will signal its demise. I'm personally not ready for FW to go yet.
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Originally Posted by anon7979
I'd rather just have a native TB interface to the RAID myself.
Me too, but the QX2 was $279 (I already had 4 2TB drives ready to get slotted in) and a Promise Pegasus TB raid was a TON more money. I considered it heh. I had 2 2TB drives from last summer when my PC died and when I decided it would be more cost effective to go this route I ordered 2 more identical drives from Newegg and got the QX2 from OWC. FW800 and e-SATA are still very solid options at least
Fortunately, built-in legacy options are always available. Like that new "Macbook Pro" with VGA.
I don't mind moving to adapters if it helps the main product's price, size, or other features. All the features of Firewire most likely work through this official adapter, since they are both active, intelligent, and Apple-developed protocols.
Sent from my LCIII keyboard via ADB-FW adapter.
There is a usb3 to eSata adapter cable available on Amazon for 20 bucks: works fine
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Originally Posted by Sedicivalvole
SCSI... Really???
This is good news, a very very welcome addition to Thunderbolt. The lack of a FW adapter was an issue for a lot of people I know.
It would be good to know if you can Target Disk mode through it and boot off it.
FW800 is a great port, but I imagine this adapter will signal its demise. I'm personally not ready for FW to go yet.
It should work. You can Target Disk Mode through a Thunderbolt cable directly.
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Originally Posted by bryanyc
There is a usb3 to eSata adapter cable available on Amazon for 20 bucks: works fine
Doesn't help me very well when I have a Mid 2011 Mac Mini that has USB2. Also, USB3 is still slower than eSATA and USB2 is even worse. There are reasons I asked for a TB to eSATA adapter. TB is faster than eSATA and I'm currently not using that port for anything at all. I think I have every other port on my Mini filled up tho
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thunderbolt-performance-z77a-gd80,3205-2.html
Great news! This was only thing holding me back from buying a new 13" MBA. I have a number of FW800 drives used for my Lightroom Library and full backup rotation, which I've been unwilling to replace until more FW800/USB3 drives are available (most FW800 drives are still USB2).
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Originally Posted by macxpress
I've always thought this too. Apple charges waaayyy too much for their adapters. I didn't buy the VGA and DVI adapters from Apple because they're overpriced. Bought them elsewhere for $7, yes $7 and its the exact same thing. Works great every time! I'll wait for a cheaper solution if I were to ever need this.
We've got a bunch of those "$7 video adapters" at work -- a BUNCH.
We have to keep buying more because most of those adapters don't work after about a week. It would have been far cheaper to buy Apple adapters.
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Originally Posted by RaptorOO7
How about the fact that this adapter doesn't cost anywhere near $29 to make, they don't market it on TV and there is no reason to charge that much other than standard Apple high margins. I can't wait to see what its going to cost me to get a 30 pin to 19 pin adapter so I can use my iPod and iPhone in my car when the next one arrives, of course that too will likely cost $29.
Cost of manufacture has little to do with retail pricing. What the market will bear is the over riding factor.
My guess is that Apple's beancounters calculated that profit would be maximized at the $29 price point.
Originally Posted by @tiger
Is it possible to use this to connect an iMac with FireWire to a Thunderbolt external hard drive?
No. That's backward.
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Originally Posted by @tiger
Is it possible to use this to connect an iMac with FireWire to a Thunderbolt external hard drive?
Is TB the same end on either side? I'm pretty sure this is TB Male to FW female. TB is not designed to run over Firewire tho. TB is platform agnostic and designed to allow those other protocols over it. My guess would be no, but I don't work for Apple, so a guess is all it is. I think its a good one tho.
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Originally Posted by DogCowabunga
How about a FireWire 400 to Thunderbolt Y adapter so I can connect my original 5G iPod and my G4 cube at the same time? SRSLY! Seriously I wouldn't mind being able to burn DVDs on my firewire400 DVD writer. This accessory is the only thing keeping me from ordering a retina MacBook ...
Why can't you connect a Firewire 400 device to an 800 port? it's only a speed difference, and there has to be arbitrary clocks that could be doubled, allowing communictation, right? I don't know too much about Firewire.
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Originally Posted by marcusj0015
Why can't you connect a Firewire 400 device to an 800 port? it's only a speed difference, and there has to be arbitrary clocks that could be doubled, allowing communictation, right? I don't know too much about Firewire.
Yes, FireWire is backward compatible. All you'd need is a "bilingual" cable with the appropriate 6-pin FireWire400 connector on one side and 9-pin FireWire 800 connector on the other.
But that won't get DogCowabunga the Y-cable he's hoping for (but doesn't exist). What he's looking for is a FireWire device that can be daisy-chained.