There is a modicum of space saved that can used for other things but this seems like such a waste of time and effort overall for such a small gain. I'd much rather have virtual SIMs that can be changed at will from Settings.
The other aspect is that a lot, if not most carriers will refuse to give you a new sim without upgrading to a new service and a new contract. It's an awful thing to do and probably should be illegal but even in places where it isn't technically policy, I've seen carriers doing it to customers just because they can.
I wonder how long it's going to be before people start to realise that the one thing the iPhone set out to do that it *hasn't* yet done is "change the cell phone industry," (at least not in the sense of making the carriers do anything different, or offer fair contracts and stop preying on their customers etc.)
This was actually part of Apple's goal at the beginning of the iPhone phenomenon and Steve Jobs said as much on stage at the original announcement. Over the years however, whenever they do something that the carriers don't seem to like, they have basically backed down or scraped the idea in favour of what the carrier wants. Possibly Apple didn't realise how much the subsidies they enjoy on the iPhone sales would basically tie them to the carrier and leave them with few independent options.
I find this possibly the most disappointing aspect of the whole "revolution" that here we are five years later with the same cell carrier monopolies and the same bad deal on contracts and pricing. Apple should really focus on bringing the price of the iPhone down so they can sell it off contract in much larger numbers. Only then will we even begin to see the monopolies start to fade away and even then it will take years after that before things are finally oriented towards the customer instead of the cell corporation.
No no no no no no no. There is a self made genius here who has proven the next iPhone will be called iPhone 6!!!!!!!! Your all wrong. His user id has an X in it.
Actually TallestSkil is the user that is most adamant about the "iPhone 6" and talks it up (as well as talking down to the non-believers), more than anyone else.
Whatever it's eventually named however, it's extremely unlikely that the new iPhone will, ever, ever, ever, be called "iPhone 5." Almost everyone agrees with that. Tech blogs just use "iPhone 5" as a placeholder not because they are actually arguing that it will be called that.
Actually TallestSkil is the user that is most adamant about the "iPhone 6" and talks it up (as well as talking down to the non-believers), more than anyone else.
Whatever it's eventually named however, it's extremely unlikely that the new iPhone will, ever, ever, ever, be called "iPhone 5." Almost everyone agrees with that. Tech blogs just use "iPhone 5" as a placeholder not because they are actually arguing that it will be called that.
I think they should call it the iPhone 9. WAAAAYYYYYY better than the Samsung S3 - at least 3 times as good.
Actually TallestSkil is the user that is most adamant about the "iPhone 6" and talks it up (as well as talking down to the non-believers), more than anyone else.
Whatever it's eventually named however, it's extremely unlikely that the new iPhone will, ever, ever, ever, be called "iPhone 5." Almost everyone agrees with that. Tech blogs just use "iPhone 5" as a placeholder not because they are actually arguing that it will be called that.
Clearly he's referring to me with his passive aggressive statement. I suppose he thinks that indemnifies him from making a slanderous statement if he's too cowardly to post my name. Still waiting for him to show proof that I've said it will be called iPhone 6 as opposed to saying iPhone 5 is the least likely option based on historical data.
Does it matter what they call it? It's sales will still exceed the total of all iPhones sold to date as has been forstalled. . . er, I mean foretold.
Nope. But it does matter that people are being rational and using logic to come to a sound conclusion. I've even made arguments as to why Apple would call it the iPhone 5, I just don't think it's the most likely name for the 6th gen iPhone running iOS 6, using 4G LTE and being in the 4th case design style.
PS: The court revealed some interesting data. I think it was about the iPhone, but that each new iPhone has outsold every previous iPhone put together. We're only moving into the 6th year of iPhone sales but that's pretty impressive. I don't they can keep this up for too much longer unless they get China Mobile on board and within a couple years after that they find a a way to make India a viable market for new iPhones.
PS: The court revealed some interesting data. I think it was about the iPhone, but that each new iPhone has outsold every previous iPhone put together.
Actually TallestSkil is the user that is most adamant about the "iPhone 6" and talks it up (as well as talking down to the non-believers), more than anyone else.
Nope. I believe "the new iPhone". I'm the most adamant about it NOT being "iPhone 5". Haven't believed "iPhone 6" since the day of the 3rd iPad's launch.
Nope. I believe "the new iPhone". I'm the most adamant about it NOT being "iPhone 5". Haven't believed "iPhone 6" since the day of the 3rd iPad's launch.
Thanks for clarifying. I actually, agree with you. "The new iPhone". I call it iPhone 5 colloquially but I don't think Apple will do it.
To call it iPhone 5 would make a lot more sense than to call it iPhone 6 since internally the version string for the iPhone 4S is iPhone4,1 (my 64GB Wi-Fi 4G iPad is an iPad3,3; not sure whether the minor number changes based on specifications).
Back to the topic: if they're making this change, I hope they extend it to the iPad as well, not because I believe there's a need for space inside an iPad but because I like to have the ability to swap the SIMs when I need to send lots of SMSes through my iPad's SIM (which are free).
EDIT: Just found out what the version strings are supposed to represent:
iPhone1,1 was the original iPhone (GSM);
iPhone1,2 was the iPhone 3G (GSM);
iPhone2,1 was the iPhone 3GS (GSM);
iPhone3,1 was the iPhone 4 (GSM);
iPhone3,3 was the iPhone 4 (CDMA);
iPhone4,1 was the iPhone 4S (GSM+CDMA).
The above makes my theory that the iPhone would be named after its version less plausible since the iPhone 4 was an iPhone3, but it also demonstrates that Apple is pretty inconsistent when it comes to their versioning information.
the nano sim adapters are out already. seems like there is more than one type available (nano-sim-adapter-shop.com). they should help to go back to the older "toys"
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
There is a modicum of space saved that can used for other things but this seems like such a waste of time and effort overall for such a small gain. I'd much rather have virtual SIMs that can be changed at will from Settings.
The other aspect is that a lot, if not most carriers will refuse to give you a new sim without upgrading to a new service and a new contract. It's an awful thing to do and probably should be illegal but even in places where it isn't technically policy, I've seen carriers doing it to customers just because they can.
I wonder how long it's going to be before people start to realise that the one thing the iPhone set out to do that it *hasn't* yet done is "change the cell phone industry," (at least not in the sense of making the carriers do anything different, or offer fair contracts and stop preying on their customers etc.)
This was actually part of Apple's goal at the beginning of the iPhone phenomenon and Steve Jobs said as much on stage at the original announcement. Over the years however, whenever they do something that the carriers don't seem to like, they have basically backed down or scraped the idea in favour of what the carrier wants. Possibly Apple didn't realise how much the subsidies they enjoy on the iPhone sales would basically tie them to the carrier and leave them with few independent options.
I find this possibly the most disappointing aspect of the whole "revolution" that here we are five years later with the same cell carrier monopolies and the same bad deal on contracts and pricing. Apple should really focus on bringing the price of the iPhone down so they can sell it off contract in much larger numbers. Only then will we even begin to see the monopolies start to fade away and even then it will take years after that before things are finally oriented towards the customer instead of the cell corporation.
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Originally Posted by tylerk36
No no no no no no no. There is a self made genius here who has proven the next iPhone will be called iPhone 6!!!!!!!! Your all wrong. His user id has an X in it.
Actually TallestSkil is the user that is most adamant about the "iPhone 6" and talks it up (as well as talking down to the non-believers), more than anyone else.
Whatever it's eventually named however, it's extremely unlikely that the new iPhone will, ever, ever, ever, be called "iPhone 5." Almost everyone agrees with that. Tech blogs just use "iPhone 5" as a placeholder not because they are actually arguing that it will be called that.
I think they should call it the iPhone 9. WAAAAYYYYYY better than the Samsung S3 - at least 3 times as good.
Clearly he's referring to me with his passive aggressive statement. I suppose he thinks that indemnifies him from making a slanderous statement if he's too cowardly to post my name. Still waiting for him to show proof that I've said it will be called iPhone 6 as opposed to saying iPhone 5 is the least likely option based on historical data.
Does it matter what they call it? It's sales will still exceed the total of all iPhones sold to date as has been forstalled. . . er, I mean foretold.
Nope. But it does matter that people are being rational and using logic to come to a sound conclusion. I've even made arguments as to why Apple would call it the iPhone 5, I just don't think it's the most likely name for the 6th gen iPhone running iOS 6, using 4G LTE and being in the 4th case design style.
PS: The court revealed some interesting data. I think it was about the iPhone, but that each new iPhone has outsold every previous iPhone put together. We're only moving into the 6th year of iPhone sales but that's pretty impressive. I don't they can keep this up for too much longer unless they get China Mobile on board and within a couple years after that they find a a way to make India a viable market for new iPhones.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
PS: The court revealed some interesting data. I think it was about the iPhone, but that each new iPhone has outsold every previous iPhone put together.
..and that explains my last post.
Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Actually TallestSkil is the user that is most adamant about the "iPhone 6" and talks it up (as well as talking down to the non-believers), more than anyone else.
Nope. I believe "the new iPhone". I'm the most adamant about it NOT being "iPhone 5". Haven't believed "iPhone 6" since the day of the 3rd iPad's launch.
Thanks for clarifying. I actually, agree with you. "The new iPhone". I call it iPhone 5 colloquially but I don't think Apple will do it.
To call it iPhone 5 would make a lot more sense than to call it iPhone 6 since internally the version string for the iPhone 4S is iPhone4,1 (my 64GB Wi-Fi 4G iPad is an iPad3,3; not sure whether the minor number changes based on specifications).
Back to the topic: if they're making this change, I hope they extend it to the iPad as well, not because I believe there's a need for space inside an iPad but because I like to have the ability to swap the SIMs when I need to send lots of SMSes through my iPad's SIM (which are free).
EDIT: Just found out what the version strings are supposed to represent:
iPhone1,1 was the original iPhone (GSM);
iPhone1,2 was the iPhone 3G (GSM);
iPhone2,1 was the iPhone 3GS (GSM);
iPhone3,1 was the iPhone 4 (GSM);
iPhone3,3 was the iPhone 4 (CDMA);
iPhone4,1 was the iPhone 4S (GSM+CDMA).
The above makes my theory that the iPhone would be named after its version less plausible since the iPhone 4 was an iPhone3, but it also demonstrates that Apple is pretty inconsistent when it comes to their versioning information.
the nano sim adapters are out already. seems like there is more than one type available (nano-sim-adapter-shop.com). they should help to go back to the older "toys"