Interesting that she comments both sides are over-reaching since the predominant view (and not just from AI articles) is that it's a clear win for Apple, as good as $2B+ in the bank and sales blocked in the US.
What predominant view? That of this forum? Samsung has done a pretty impressive job continually throwing shit at the wall and confusing everyone over what this trial is about and who has violated what. I'm sure most people who aren't looking at Samsung's ridiculous claims closely are pretty confused as to who's in the right.
This seems to put the ball in Samsung's Court. I don't understand the lack of understanding with what is actually going on in the court each day when I read AI.
What predominant view? That of this forum? Samsung has done a pretty impressive job continually throwing shit at the wall and confusing everyone over what this trial is about and who has violated what. I'm sure most people who aren't looking at Samsung's ridiculous claims closely are pretty confused as to who's in the right.
We only hear bits and pieces, and biased ones at that. If we must formulate a opinion based on these fragments, I'd say neither side has presented a coherent case.
I am a little concerned this might not go Apple's way. It is obvious to all but the stupid which way it SHOULD go. But sometimes juries are stupid.
If it goes the wrong way, remember this. . .
Steve's greatest triumphs were OSX and iOS.
Samsung's touchwiz is just a poor copy skin over a poor copy of iOS.
They actually have nothing. Samsung have given up competing for tablet space, because no matter how good their hardware is, Android drags them down. They have written Android 'plug-ins' that approximate iOS functionality but Android drags them down.
Android will not be able to compete in the long term. It is a sinking ship. And they won't have Apple paying them millions for their hardware.
I'm posting this here, too, because it's equally relevant to this side.
This ticks me off so much. So frigging much.
Does anyone else see the big picture here?
Steve Jobs has been stolen from by two entities.
The first stole out of alleged desperation. A lone figure in a sea of nearly 7 billion. A man who, with more intelligence, could have easily slipped quietly into the night, never to be heard from again. A man who, when caught and notified of the magnitude of his crime, felt alleged remorse and desired to write a personal apology to the people from whom he stole, meaning them no disrespect personally. I know I said elsewhere that if he took the wallet, he'd know who he'd stolen from, but if he hadn't opened the wallet in the dark, he wouldn't have known. This man is certain to be punished for his crime, swiftly and severely, even if his remorse truly is genuine.
The second stole out of greed, laziness, and apathy. A large presence in a small room. A company who, with more intelligence, could have easily avoided this entire debacle, becoming a second bastion of innovation in an industry with only one oasis in the desert. A company who, when caught and notified of the magnitude of its crime, claimed that they were the ones being stolen from, not the other way around. This company has a very real chance of getting away with their crime scot-free, and they don't feel an ounce of remorse, faked or otherwise.
It makes me livid.
I wish more of your posts were like this, and less of the other irritating stuff.
Holy shit are some of you totally deluded! (Nice start to coming out of retirement on AI.)
Judge Koh has been labelled an Apple shill in regards to this court case, and at times I have agreed with that. To be honest, I think her asking for peaceful talks, is primarily because she thinks Appel are gunna have their asses handed to them by a jury verdict, therefore, to protect her Apple chums, she's now dragging up the peaceful settlement question.
Apple came to this case with all the cheerleading from Apple fans around the world, and they put on an impressive show, at first. Then Samsung basically demolished Apple when they took to the stand by means of getting to the heart of the matter and saying some of these Apple patents should be invalidated. Quite right, too.
Samsung didn't copy Apple. that was bullshit.
Thanks - we only had about 14% butthead trolls till you showed up...
She's also protecting her resume. If the verdict is appealed -- which it will be, regardless of which side wins -- and loses, that will impact her viability for future political positions or more senior judgeships.
These folks are way more political than you might imagine.
Nearly every case gets appealed until it is exhausted. This verdict will be appealed. Everyone knows it. It'll have little bearing on her political future. If she were to make huge mistakes in applying the law or getting involved in controversial issues, it'll have an effect on her future.
Honestly, it probably is already over, because from day one, the judge decided to bar any evidence that might work against Apple.?
So, your contention is that Samsung already had these ideas because their teams reported thinking of them in the latter half of 2006, barely ahead of an actual completed product introduced in January 2007 and sold in June 2007? (which Jobs said he had been waiting to introduce for 2 1/2 years at that time)
If anything, your illustrations show that a company (Samsung), working on a phone, altered its design and features ideas about the time they might have become privy to details of Apple's impending finished product...uh, that's copying.
You seem not to have presented "any evidence that might work against Apple".
When did they receive contracts for Apple components? Might that have contributed to these supposed ideas?
Someone out there who _isn't_ a troll must know...?
That, and because he's a returning user previously banned.
I could care less if the room is ignoring me.
And I've never been a registered user of this site. I just wanted to share the truth of what is happening on a day to day basis with the trial if you read any other "real" tech site and not AI.
It's funny because half of the Advertising is from Google and the other half is from Samsung.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Interesting that she comments both sides are over-reaching since the predominant view (and not just from AI articles) is that it's a clear win for Apple, as good as $2B+ in the bank and sales blocked in the US.
What predominant view? That of this forum? Samsung has done a pretty impressive job continually throwing shit at the wall and confusing everyone over what this trial is about and who has violated what. I'm sure most people who aren't looking at Samsung's ridiculous claims closely are pretty confused as to who's in the right.
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Originally Posted by hill60
Apple:- "Stop copying our stuff".
Samsung:- "We aren't copying your stuff".
Rock meet hard place, Lucy Koh should accept THAT IT IS HER JOB to come between this deadlocked position, the job SHE IS PAID TO DO.
Amen. To criticize her without being present for the proceedings is not only silly, disrespectful but down right ignorant.
I must be missing something because according to the Verge.
Apple's Patents have for bounce back and touchscreen don't have prior at at the Patent Office
Samsung expert: Apple's bounce-back patent is invalid, Patent Office never saw prior art
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/15/3244581/samsung-expert-apple-bounce-back-patent-invalid
This seems to put the ball in Samsung's Court. I don't understand the lack of understanding with what is actually going on in the court each day when I read AI.
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Originally Posted by Slurpy
What predominant view? That of this forum? Samsung has done a pretty impressive job continually throwing shit at the wall and confusing everyone over what this trial is about and who has violated what. I'm sure most people who aren't looking at Samsung's ridiculous claims closely are pretty confused as to who's in the right.
We only hear bits and pieces, and biased ones at that. If we must formulate a opinion based on these fragments, I'd say neither side has presented a coherent case.
But sometimes juries are stupid.
If it goes the wrong way, remember this. . .
Steve's greatest triumphs were OSX and iOS.
Samsung's touchwiz is just a poor copy skin over a poor copy of iOS.
They actually have nothing. Samsung have given up competing for tablet space, because no matter how good their hardware is, Android drags them down.
They have written Android 'plug-ins' that approximate iOS functionality but Android drags them down.
Android will not be able to compete in the long term. It is a sinking ship.
And they won't have Apple paying them millions for their hardware.
BUT, they might have Steve Ballmers Windows 8.
Good luck Samsung.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
I'm posting this here, too, because it's equally relevant to this side.
This ticks me off so much. So frigging much.
Does anyone else see the big picture here?
Steve Jobs has been stolen from by two entities.
The first stole out of alleged desperation. A lone figure in a sea of nearly 7 billion. A man who, with more intelligence, could have easily slipped quietly into the night, never to be heard from again. A man who, when caught and notified of the magnitude of his crime, felt alleged remorse and desired to write a personal apology to the people from whom he stole, meaning them no disrespect personally. I know I said elsewhere that if he took the wallet, he'd know who he'd stolen from, but if he hadn't opened the wallet in the dark, he wouldn't have known. This man is certain to be punished for his crime, swiftly and severely, even if his remorse truly is genuine.
The second stole out of greed, laziness, and apathy. A large presence in a small room. A company who, with more intelligence, could have easily avoided this entire debacle, becoming a second bastion of innovation in an industry with only one oasis in the desert. A company who, when caught and notified of the magnitude of its crime, claimed that they were the ones being stolen from, not the other way around. This company has a very real chance of getting away with their crime scot-free, and they don't feel an ounce of remorse, faked or otherwise.
It makes me livid.
I wish more of your posts were like this, and less of the other irritating stuff.
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Originally Posted by looped
Holy shit are some of you totally deluded! (Nice start to coming out of retirement on AI.)
Judge Koh has been labelled an Apple shill in regards to this court case, and at times I have agreed with that. To be honest, I think her asking for peaceful talks, is primarily because she thinks Appel are gunna have their asses handed to them by a jury verdict, therefore, to protect her Apple chums, she's now dragging up the peaceful settlement question.
Apple came to this case with all the cheerleading from Apple fans around the world, and they put on an impressive show, at first. Then Samsung basically demolished Apple when they took to the stand by means of getting to the heart of the matter and saying some of these Apple patents should be invalidated. Quite right, too.
Samsung didn't copy Apple. that was bullshit.
Thanks - we only had about 14% butthead trolls till you showed up...
Originally Posted by Slurpy
I wish more of your posts were like this, and less of the other stuff.
If we'd go on a Troll Crusade, I imagine there wouldn't be much of the other stuff left.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
She's also protecting her resume. If the verdict is appealed -- which it will be, regardless of which side wins -- and loses, that will impact her viability for future political positions or more senior judgeships.
These folks are way more political than you might imagine.
Nearly every case gets appealed until it is exhausted. This verdict will be appealed. Everyone knows it. It'll have little bearing on her political future. If she were to make huge mistakes in applying the law or getting involved in controversial issues, it'll have an effect on her future.
Apple will sue BB10 beause "look and feel" are similar
NO. NO "PEACE."
It is time to see the process through to a JUDGMENT. Everyone putting their cards on the table, history made. Hopefully, precedent set.
Regardless of what this ruling does to one or both companies, this process *needs* to happen.
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Judge Says NO To Testimony From Samsung Designer
http://galaxystocks.com/24615/business-news/judge-says-no-to-testimony-from-samsung-designer-aapl/
Judge bars Samsung designer from testifying in Apple trial
Read more: http://www.itproportal.com/2012/08/13/judge-bars-samsung-designer-from-testifying-in-apple-trial/#ixzz23SuNRUQM
Key Samsung designer barred from testifying in Apple case
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57491835-37/key-samsung-designer-barred-from-testifying-in-apple-case/
Honestly, it probably is already over, because from day one, the judge decided to bar any evidence that might work against Apple.?
So, your contention is that Samsung already had these ideas because their teams reported thinking of them in the latter half of 2006, barely ahead of an actual completed product introduced in January 2007 and sold in June 2007? (which Jobs said he had been waiting to introduce for 2 1/2 years at that time)
If anything, your illustrations show that a company (Samsung), working on a phone, altered its design and features ideas about the time they might have become privy to details of Apple's impending finished product...uh, that's copying.
You seem not to have presented "any evidence that might work against Apple".
When did they receive contracts for Apple components? Might that have contributed to these supposed ideas?
Someone out there who _isn't_ a troll must know...?
Agree
CC - it's a fan site man. They're ignoring you because you made a point in favor of Samsung.
Originally Posted by Quadra 610
NO. NO "PEACE."
Samsung is the alien.
The president is Jobs.
"Nuke 'em."
(the full scene that I wanted isn't up anywhere…)
Originally Posted by LuxoM3
CC - it's a fan site man. They're ignoring you because you made a point in favor of Samsung.
That, and because he's a returning user previously banned.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Samsung is the alien.
The president is Jobs.
"Nuke 'em."
(the full scene that I wanted isn't up anywhere…)
That, and because he's a returning user previously banned.
I could care less if the room is ignoring me.
And I've never been a registered user of this site. I just wanted to share the truth of what is happening on a day to day basis with the trial if you read any other "real" tech site and not AI.
It's funny because half of the Advertising is from Google and the other half is from Samsung.
I found it for you: