You are pretty obviously an old time sexist kind of guy. Nuff said.
Next month, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple releases a "Flower" iPad mini, that's kind of similar to their old iMac, and some strange and confused people here will claim that it's manly, and I'm sexist for ever suggesting anything to the contrary. I couldn't give two craps if a male wishes for a "here's my pony" iPad, but they shouldn't pretend for a single second that their choice is not feminine.
Apple has become a mainstream company, and has thus moved away from much of its 'funky' tendencies to create things that would be attractive, sleek and 'neutral' to as many kinds of people as possible. I can't imagine anything more acceptable than black/white. Don't see them moving back towards colors for their flagship products.
I was thinking more like - anything but white/aluminum. I agree colors of the spectrum are not likely. Guess that leaves, black, gray and some other metallic tonal choices.
one question though... how does this connect play in the EU where there is supposed to be a 'standard' microUSB adaptor cord for 'data enabled' phones? is there enough room on this new plug to build and adaptor with a a microUSB?
one question though... how does this connect play in the EU where there is supposed to be a 'standard' microUSB adaptor cord for 'data enabled' phones? is there enough room on this new plug to build and adaptor with a a microUSB?
So they'll make a Dock Connector 2 to MicroUSB adapter. Big deal. They're not putting MicroUSB on their devices.
You mean, other than this photo appearing after I made my previous comments, and pretty much validating everything that I claimed? (grin)
Absolutely nothing you said is clarified or proven by this image. We know nothing more than we did then other than knowing now that this plug will indeed be connected to a piece of longness.
one question though... how does this connect play in the EU where there is supposed to be a 'standard' microUSB adaptor cord for 'data enabled' phones? is there enough room on this new plug to build and adaptor with a a microUSB?
What TS said... or there is the rumour that Apple got real clever and made the connector port backwards compatible with Micro-USB on their devices. I think that's unlikely but it's not the craziest thing I've heard Apple will do regarding this new connector. Some are saying Apple will kill off the accessories market by getting rid of video and audio out.
What TS said... or there is the rumour that Apple got real clever and made the connector port backwards compatible with Micro-USB on their devices. I think that's unlikely but it's not the craziest thing I've heard Apple will do regarding this new connector. Some are saying Apple will kill off the accessories market by getting rid of video and audio out.
USB 2.0 is backwards compatible with USB 3.0...
...and "some" are saying that a new, high-speed interconnect cable will boost the accessories market like nothing else. (grin)
That's one point about this whole thing I've never understood. Is there a single accessory out there that doesn't have some back support for the device? Whether the connector is wide/deep enough to hold up the device is completely irrelevant, as the docking area of the accessory itself is built to hold it up.
It doesn't look any "longer" or "deeper" than the current plug.
Yeah, I don't know where people are getting this "why is it so long" thing. Looking at the picture (as has been mentioned) it appears to be about half the length of the USB connector, which is exactly what the current dock connector is.
I think maybe the fact that it's so much narrower is making people see it as much longer?
I like turtles! I have no idea what you mean by referencing the protocols when I mentioned the port connector for Micro-USB and the rumoured new dock connector.
Also, it's USB 3.0 that's backward's compatible with USB 2.0. I know you meant and I'm sure you meant it that way but on a tech forum that does make a difference.
Yeah, I don't know where people are getting this "why is it so long" thing. Looking at the picture (as has been mentioned) it appears to be about half the length of the USB connector, which is exactly what the current dock connector is.
I think maybe the fact that it's so much narrower is making people see it as much longer?
But it's around double the length of the current dock connector. That's the one it's being measured by, not USB-A as that doesn't plug into iDevices. It needs to be longer to get a decent amount of surface area for a solid connection. There are likely also spring loaded clips as ahmlco mentioned but that only helps from falling out.
This is only a minor detail, and I've said this before, but I wish that Apple would make black cables. They obviously don't have to get rid of the white, clinical looking, made for women cables, just add black cables for those people who happen to have black iOS devices. White cables look out of place and annoying when plugged into my devices, most of which are black.
I bought a black third party iPad power extension cable a few months ago and it didn't even last a week, it was poorly made. When I buy my next iPad, I would like a black cable to be in the box. I very much doubt that that would happen, but a person can wish at least.
So white is simply a color that belongs to women? I guess I should change the color of my skin, then, too. :troll:
There has been absolutely no evidence or leaks of any kind that would indicate that this is a magsafe type connector. There has actually been some evidence against it even. Also, common sense would argue against it.
There's no evidence against it that I know of. I believe I may have read someone else speculate this, but granted no evidence per se.
It would seem to me a good possibility that this could happen. It's such an elegant feature.
What common sense would you say is against it?
It would add a stumbling block to cloning apple's cable, which Apple certainly desires.
Since the orientation doesn't matter, it would make docking/plugging in your iDevice "magically" simple. Current magsafe power devices have the "any orientation" feature
There would be no interference of usability in the metal case since it's aluminum.
The more I think of it, the more I see this as a great idea.
There's no evidence against it that I know of. I believe I may have read someone else speculate this, but granted no evidence per se.
It would seem to me a good possibility that this could happen. It's such an elegant feature.
What common sense would you say is against it?
It would add a stumbling block to cloning apple's cable, which Apple certainly desires.
Since the orientation doesn't matter, it would make docking/plugging in your iDevice "magically" simple. Current magsafe power devices have the "any orientation" feature
There would be no interference of usability in the metal case since it's aluminum.
The more I think of it, the more I see this as a great idea.
What common sense? The common sense that there's no way in hell this can function as a magsafe with the amount of length that is inserted into the device, and the fact that the pins make contact from the sides. The shape and insertion method make it impossible. So yes, it is common sense. How do you imagine it would slide out?
That's one point about this whole thing I've never understood. Is there a single accessory out there that doesn't have some back support for the device? Whether the connector is wide/deep enough to hold up the device is completely irrelevant, as the docking area of the accessory itself is built to hold it up.
Pretty much none of the docking stations I have include the proper adapter to accept my iPhone 4S with a case on it - I resorted to buying a pack of adapters made for an Agent18 case that is a pretty good fit - but in the end there is very little or no support for my iPhone provided by the dock - and even less for the wife's iPhone which has a thinner case on it - which is still to thick to be used with the adapter made for a bare iPhone.
That's one point about this whole thing I've never understood. Is there a single accessory out there that doesn't have some back support for the device? Whether the connector is wide/deep enough to hold up the device is completely irrelevant, as the docking area of the accessory itself is built to hold it up.
Have you seen the Apple iPhone 4 dock? Very little back support. I also own an alarm clock radio in which the dock connector is the only point of contact.
Yes, back support. Specifically does not rely on the connector. It's recessed, for heaven's sake. THAT is the support.
Originally Posted by Dunks
Have you seen the Apple iPhone 4 dock? Very little back support. I also own an alarm clock radio in which the dock connector is the only point of contact.
Those are two completely different scenarios. I'd love to see a shot of that alarm clock, if that's possible.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Just digging a deeper hole here.
You are pretty obviously an old time sexist kind of guy. Nuff said.
Next month, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple releases a "Flower" iPad mini, that's kind of similar to their old iMac, and some strange and confused people here will claim that it's manly, and I'm sexist for ever suggesting anything to the contrary. I couldn't give two craps if a male wishes for a "here's my pony" iPad, but they shouldn't pretend for a single second that their choice is not feminine.
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Originally Posted by Slurpy
Apple has become a mainstream company, and has thus moved away from much of its 'funky' tendencies to create things that would be attractive, sleek and 'neutral' to as many kinds of people as possible. I can't imagine anything more acceptable than black/white. Don't see them moving back towards colors for their flagship products.
I was thinking more like - anything but white/aluminum. I agree colors of the spectrum are not likely. Guess that leaves, black, gray and some other metallic tonal choices.
Originally Posted by ahmlco
BTW, did you happen to notice how well this 8/9-pin connector fits in with our previous conversation?
Sure, but that's because our previous conversation was about the 8/9 pin connector. I don't see what has changed here, if anything.
one question though... how does this connect play in the EU where there is supposed to be a 'standard' microUSB adaptor cord for 'data enabled' phones? is there enough room on this new plug to build and adaptor with a a microUSB?
Originally Posted by TheOtherGeoff
one question though... how does this connect play in the EU where there is supposed to be a 'standard' microUSB adaptor cord for 'data enabled' phones? is there enough room on this new plug to build and adaptor with a a microUSB?
So they'll make a Dock Connector 2 to MicroUSB adapter. Big deal. They're not putting MicroUSB on their devices.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Sure, but that's because our previous conversation was about the 8/9 pin connector. I don't see what has changed here, if anything.
You mean, other than this photo appearing after I made my previous comments, and pretty much validating everything that I claimed? (grin)
Originally Posted by ahmlco
You mean, other than this photo appearing after I made my previous comments, and pretty much validating everything that I claimed? (grin)
Absolutely nothing you said is clarified or proven by this image. We know nothing more than we did then other than knowing now that this plug will indeed be connected to a piece of longness.
Everyone ranting and raving about leaks and "ruining" the announcement...
Please simmer down!
I really think that if the cables and connectors is what you are focusing on,
or if leaked details of that ruin "the release" for you
...uh, you may not be focusing on
what makes it an iPhone.
What TS said... or there is the rumour that Apple got real clever and made the connector port backwards compatible with Micro-USB on their devices. I think that's unlikely but it's not the craziest thing I've heard Apple will do regarding this new connector. Some are saying Apple will kill off the accessories market by getting rid of video and audio out.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
What TS said... or there is the rumour that Apple got real clever and made the connector port backwards compatible with Micro-USB on their devices. I think that's unlikely but it's not the craziest thing I've heard Apple will do regarding this new connector. Some are saying Apple will kill off the accessories market by getting rid of video and audio out.
USB 2.0 is backwards compatible with USB 3.0...
...and "some" are saying that a new, high-speed interconnect cable will boost the accessories market like nothing else. (grin)
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
That's one point about this whole thing I've never understood. Is there a single accessory out there that doesn't have some back support for the device? Whether the connector is wide/deep enough to hold up the device is completely irrelevant, as the docking area of the accessory itself is built to hold it up.
No back support. Relies on connector...
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Originally Posted by MacVertigo
It doesn't look any "longer" or "deeper" than the current plug.
Yeah, I don't know where people are getting this "why is it so long" thing. Looking at the picture (as has been mentioned) it appears to be about half the length of the USB connector, which is exactly what the current dock connector is.
I think maybe the fact that it's so much narrower is making people see it as much longer?
I like turtles! I have no idea what you mean by referencing the protocols when I mentioned the port connector for Micro-USB and the rumoured new dock connector.
Also, it's USB 3.0 that's backward's compatible with USB 2.0. I know you meant and I'm sure you meant it that way but on a tech forum that does make a difference.
But it's around double the length of the current dock connector. That's the one it's being measured by, not USB-A as that doesn't plug into iDevices. It needs to be longer to get a decent amount of surface area for a solid connection. There are likely also spring loaded clips as ahmlco mentioned but that only helps from falling out.
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
This is only a minor detail, and I've said this before, but I wish that Apple would make black cables. They obviously don't have to get rid of the white, clinical looking, made for women cables, just add black cables for those people who happen to have black iOS devices. White cables look out of place and annoying when plugged into my devices, most of which are black.
I bought a black third party iPad power extension cable a few months ago and it didn't even last a week, it was poorly made. When I buy my next iPad, I would like a black cable to be in the box. I very much doubt that that would happen, but a person can wish at least.
So white is simply a color that belongs to women? I guess I should change the color of my skin, then, too. :troll:
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
There has been absolutely no evidence or leaks of any kind that would indicate that this is a magsafe type connector. There has actually been some evidence against it even. Also, common sense would argue against it.
There's no evidence against it that I know of. I believe I may have read someone else speculate this, but granted no evidence per se.
It would seem to me a good possibility that this could happen. It's such an elegant feature.
What common sense would you say is against it?
It would add a stumbling block to cloning apple's cable, which Apple certainly desires.
Since the orientation doesn't matter, it would make docking/plugging in your iDevice "magically" simple. Current magsafe power devices have the "any orientation" feature
There would be no interference of usability in the metal case since it's aluminum.
The more I think of it, the more I see this as a great idea.
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Originally Posted by huntercr
There's no evidence against it that I know of. I believe I may have read someone else speculate this, but granted no evidence per se.
It would seem to me a good possibility that this could happen. It's such an elegant feature.
What common sense would you say is against it?
It would add a stumbling block to cloning apple's cable, which Apple certainly desires.
Since the orientation doesn't matter, it would make docking/plugging in your iDevice "magically" simple. Current magsafe power devices have the "any orientation" feature
There would be no interference of usability in the metal case since it's aluminum.
The more I think of it, the more I see this as a great idea.
What common sense? The common sense that there's no way in hell this can function as a magsafe with the amount of length that is inserted into the device, and the fact that the pins make contact from the sides. The shape and insertion method make it impossible. So yes, it is common sense. How do you imagine it would slide out?
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
That's one point about this whole thing I've never understood. Is there a single accessory out there that doesn't have some back support for the device? Whether the connector is wide/deep enough to hold up the device is completely irrelevant, as the docking area of the accessory itself is built to hold it up.
Pretty much none of the docking stations I have include the proper adapter to accept my iPhone 4S with a case on it - I resorted to buying a pack of adapters made for an Agent18 case that is a pretty good fit - but in the end there is very little or no support for my iPhone provided by the dock - and even less for the wife's iPhone which has a thinner case on it - which is still to thick to be used with the adapter made for a bare iPhone.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
That's one point about this whole thing I've never understood. Is there a single accessory out there that doesn't have some back support for the device? Whether the connector is wide/deep enough to hold up the device is completely irrelevant, as the docking area of the accessory itself is built to hold it up.
Have you seen the Apple iPhone 4 dock? Very little back support. I also own an alarm clock radio in which the dock connector is the only point of contact.
Originally Posted by hentaiboy
No back support. Relies on connector...
Yes, back support. Specifically does not rely on the connector. It's recessed, for heaven's sake. THAT is the support.
Originally Posted by Dunks
Have you seen the Apple iPhone 4 dock? Very little back support. I also own an alarm clock radio in which the dock connector is the only point of contact.
Those are two completely different scenarios. I'd love to see a shot of that alarm clock, if that's possible.