I'm starting to warm up to GoogleGuy. Gives an air of knowledgeable authority, as tho those that use it aren't familiar with both sides of the issues and relying on me to fill them in. ;)
Except that for people who know what is going on, Google represents massive IP theft, misrepresentation, and flat out lies.
Not surprising that you find that it describes you well.
Samsung is more than a corporation in Korea; it's a chaebol and has enormous political clout in that country. You can bet that this is an attempt to sway an American jury from awarding Apple a big settlement. The Korean judges' finding that Samsung phones bear little resemblance to the iPhone originals is laughable.
So the judgement stopped South Korean sales of Samsung's Galaxy S, Galaxy S II, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Tab and Galaxy Tab 10.1, and this is clear proof of Samsung bribing judges? Okaaay.
The loser here are the customers. This insane patent war has to be put to an end.
This court ruling is simply an instance of the corrupt South Korean legal system allowing Samsung to save face. It would have been a too egregious example of that country's deeply embedded corruption to simply ignore Samsung's blatant copying, so they chose this disingenuous tu quoque verdict as the best way to do nothing to harm Samsung but maintain some level of credibility themselves.
While it maintains a facade of honour, their is no honour in this pretense of justice.
South Korean ruling? Does it even matter? It's not even worth mentioning were it not that Samsung is a Korean company.
This has no effect on any other court's rulings. And certain markets (or rather, countries with big markets for Apple gear) need to be careful about even considering a ban on Apple products. Not only would it create *a lot* of consumer discord, but also a massive black market for them.
This is rubish. Clearly Samsung was infringing on the Apple designs by trying to Mimick them with their smartphones, none the less, it isn't as important that Apple can't sell the iPhone 4 and iPad 2 in South Korea, buyers will just get it from the internet by directing their browsers to another Apple website, or visiting a country. As for Samsungs loss, they deserve it. Why would they copy almost every company from Palm, Blackberry, and to Apple!? They aren't innovators, they just invent stuff that's given to them by other people and sell it. Like Android, that's not theirs, it's Googles, and they are the reason to blame for this mess.
So the judgement stopped South Korean sales of Samsung's Galaxy S, Galaxy S II, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Tab and Galaxy Tab 10.1, and this is clear proof of Samsung bribing judges? Okaaay.
The loser here are the customers. This insane patent war has to be put to an end.
Customers don't lose. There are hundreds of other lousy Android devices they can choose from.
Samsung products are banned? No problem. Some other OEM will step in and fill the void. There is no shortage of these very enterprising OEMs ready and willing to flood markets with their gear.
THE high-profile Android case has led to pressure from the judge to disclose paid bloggers. Google named nobody, whereas Oracle named two .
Now it turns out that “Apple has retained Florian Mueller as a consultant,” which is a known way of passing a bribe (it’s the business model, as Microsoft privately calls it). “So GROKLAW keeps catching FM showing bias while publicly holding himself up to be an expert on FLOSS patent violations and the like, and a blogger/journalist,” writes Pogson, who adds: “The guy really is in “Technology Evangelism Mode”. He even sent me an e-mail about Oracle v Google, unsolicited. I reported it to PJ at GROKLAW as did others so she has been on FM’s case for a while.”
“They use the same tactics of misinforming journalists en masse. That’s their service.”Groklaw continues investigating this case and remarks from bloggers are telling: “So, the guy is clearly not an expert on FLOSS patents and is an advocate for those who pay him, not just a “consultant”.
Your link offers no proof of Florian linked to Apple. Your link connects to another website, which also doesn't have any proof. The second website links to Groklaw which doesn't even mention Florian being paid by Apple.
I'm not sure if he is or isn't paid by Apple, but repeating something from blogs doesn't make something true. At least look for some facts, and then link to those.
Copying is part of the Korean culture if you understand Korea's history. It's in their blood not to innovate but copy their way through everything, no wonder they're so good at cloning.
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Except that for people who know what is going on, Google represents massive IP theft, misrepresentation, and flat out lies.
Not surprising that you find that it describes you well.
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Originally Posted by Red Oak
This article misses the big picture of what is going on. Read Foss Patents latest post for a better understanding
The situation is not good and could result in Apple withdrawing from the Korean market
Rounding error.
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Originally Posted by Zozman
just uploaded on youtube, Jimmy Kimmel samsung add
This is embarrassingly bad.
This thoroughly unfunny guy got his show moved to the 11.35 PM (prime slot for late night TV in the US) on ABC (owned by Disney)?!
Samsung is more than a corporation in Korea; it's a chaebol and has enormous political clout in that country. You can bet that this is an attempt to sway an American jury from awarding Apple a big settlement. The Korean judges' finding that Samsung phones bear little resemblance to the iPhone originals is laughable.
Originally Posted by Pendergast
And who's payroll are you on...?
Samsung's.
Originally Posted by lightknight
I'm wondering if anyone's on the payroll of anyone right here. Does anyone but us Appleinsider commenters read them forums?
It's difficult to even group about half of the trolls in under the word "commenters", particularly when "us" accompanies that.
So the judgement stopped South Korean sales of Samsung's Galaxy S, Galaxy S II, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Tab and Galaxy Tab 10.1, and this is clear proof of Samsung bribing judges? Okaaay.
The loser here are the customers. This insane patent war has to be put to an end.
Originally Posted by JohnnyW2001
The loser here are the customers. This insane patent war has to be put to an end.
Nope.
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Originally Posted by anonymouse
This court ruling is simply an instance of the corrupt South Korean legal system allowing Samsung to save face. It would have been a too egregious example of that country's deeply embedded corruption to simply ignore Samsung's blatant copying, so they chose this disingenuous tu quoque verdict as the best way to do nothing to harm Samsung but maintain some level of credibility themselves.
While it maintains a facade of honour, their is no honour in this pretense of justice.
South Korean ruling? Does it even matter? It's not even worth mentioning were it not that Samsung is a Korean company.
This has no effect on any other court's rulings. And certain markets (or rather, countries with big markets for Apple gear) need to be careful about even considering a ban on Apple products. Not only would it create *a lot* of consumer discord, but also a massive black market for them.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyW2001
So the judgement stopped South Korean sales of Samsung's Galaxy S, Galaxy S II, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy Tab and Galaxy Tab 10.1, and this is clear proof of Samsung bribing judges? Okaaay.
The loser here are the customers. This insane patent war has to be put to an end.
Customers don't lose. There are hundreds of other lousy Android devices they can choose from.
Samsung products are banned? No problem. Some other OEM will step in and fill the void. There is no shortage of these very enterprising OEMs ready and willing to flood markets with their gear.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Samsung's.
Gotta love when the moderators decide to jump in on the "I know you are, but what am I" banter....
Originally Posted by e_veritas
Gotta love when the moderators decide to jump in on the "I know you are, but what am I" banter....
Banter? It's true.
Your link offers no proof of Florian linked to Apple. Your link connects to another website, which also doesn't have any proof. The second website links to Groklaw which doesn't even mention Florian being paid by Apple.
I'm not sure if he is or isn't paid by Apple, but repeating something from blogs doesn't make something true. At least look for some facts, and then link to those.
On a different note, it appears that the ITC has issued their ruling regarding Motorola's complaints.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-24/apple-gets-mixed-ruling-in-motorola-mobility-patent-case-at-itc.html
On an even bigger different note, the Apple v Samsung jury has allegedly reached a verdict!!!!
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-24/apple-samsung-jury-reaches-verdict-in-patent-trial.html
Copying is part of the Korean culture if you understand Korea's history. It's in their blood not to innovate but copy their way through everything, no wonder they're so good at cloning.