hehehe, truly it should be called sell against the iphone launch or brace yourselves against the door before the customer mass exodus (<-- kind of hinted at with the packages being available in the "Grab n Go!" hahahaha, poor tmo I love them so but it sounds kinda desperate like they know they're going to have mass exodus)
The ANDROID + WINDOWS vendors cartel at work. I said they are cartels.
This is ANTI-Competition.
You can take the tin foil hat off now.
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Lazy corporations will tore the USA economy down ( In the this age when innovation IS the sole opportunity to grow? ). The cheap-minded people will win.
Like Apple refusing to change the Springboard UI after five years of practically no changes?
I see. They're selling against the other carriers' iPhone 5 launches by promo'ing their less expensive data rates and value plans (lower plan rates without an option for subsidized phones--that's what I've been on for a few years now).
I used to be on their value+ plan which was unsubsidized and without contract. But the value plan is the unsubsidized part with a 2 year contract.
I just moved to the value plan because I wanted to use a supported plan with full data rates. If I had known this was going to happen I would have stayed on my old plan but I doubt that would have been an option. Either way, I only pay $10 dollars a month for unlimited data because I asked them why people who scream at them get better rates through retentions and pretend like they're going to leave to get extras whereas I'm a happy customer who doesn't want to leave. So please give me the same deal as them I feel like a loyal customer should get the same deal as someone threatening to leave. So they agreed with me and put me on their loyalty unlimited 4g plan for $20 bucks and gave me a perpetual $10 credit per month. Each of my lines are only $5. My two main lines are 70 dollars with unlimited minutes, and all lines have unlimited texts.
that's 4 lines with unlimited minutes, 2 children's lines with 500 minutes (but they gave me family planning or whatever so I can control the minutes, texts, and data on each phone individually), unlimited texts, and two data lines for $98 bucks after taxes out the door
If you're on AT&T (I used to be) you can see the savings are considerable unless you're on a really old grandfathered plan
That may be true - but if that's the issue, why doesn't the document talk about selling against AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint? The fact that it specifically mentions the iPhone (as well as the fact that the iPhone works on t-Mobile, anyway) suggests that it's a hardware issue that they want to sell against, not the networks.
Well if you can't join them, beat them or something like that. Obviously they'll accept anyone with an unlocked iPhone but they'd prefer someone purchase a phone from them. That's not unreasonable.
Well if you can't join them, beat them or something like that. Obviously they'll accept anyone with an unlocked iPhone but they'd prefer someone purchase a phone from them. That's not unreasonable.
I thought the subsidies were what were "killing" carriers…
When T-mobile can't sell you an iphone, what could possibly be your issue with them selling against it?
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Screw 'em. When all of these customers COME TO YOU with their devices, you don't sell them something else. That's the best sign of just not getting it at all.
Just get your unlocked (or even NOT) iPhone on launch day, walk into a T-Mobile store when they're the busiest, and say you "would have liked to get T-Mobile service on the iPhone" you just purchased, but apparently "T-Mobile is going to try to sell me a different phone today, so I think I'll go with someone else…"
Actually they don't do that. They have way cheaper plans unsubsidized.
Yeah but at the same time they love those 2 yr contracts.
Yeah, and you're paying that when you bring them your iPhone. The difference is they make MORE money on it because they don't have to deal with the phone and the subsidy therewith.
Yeah, and you're paying that when you bring them your iPhone. The difference is they make MORE money on it because they don't have to deal with the phone and the subsidy therewith.
Tmobile is the only carrier that has cheaper plans if you bring in your own phone. I'm also sure that a few dimwits will go into a tmobile store on launch day looking for the new iPhone and they have a plan for those that do instead of flat out telling them no. They'll offer them another device or if they already have a 4/4S they offer them a cheaper plan.
Tmobile is the only carrier that has cheaper plans if you bring in your own phone.
Straight Talk's cheaper still. And they even have yearly plans. Unless you're talking specifically about "contracts", of course.
I'm also sure that a few dimwits will go into a tmobile store on launch day looking for the new iPhone… They'll offer them another device or if they already have a 4/4S they offer them a cheaper plan.
Why isn't a better idea telling them to go to an Apple Store, buy an unlocked iPhone, and then come back and we'll get you on our plan? Then they get the phone they want and T-Mobile gets the customer they want. Yeah, the guy has to make another trip, but T-Mobile wastes nothing on subsidy.
Straight Talk's cheaper still. And they even have yearly plans. Unless you're talking specifically about "contracts", of course.
Why isn't a better idea telling them to go to an Apple Store, buy an unlocked iPhone, and then come back and we'll get you on our plan? Then they get the phone they want and T-Mobile gets the customer they want. Yeah, the guy has to make another trip, but T-Mobile wastes nothing on subsidy.
Because on the way back from Apple they might pass by the Straight Talk store and never make it back lol
wait, what are you talking about? the micro sim kit is so that when you walk in with your iphone they can give you a compatible sim and get your iphone on the network.
But they don't get ny commissions off those customers. They have the kits to avoid bleed off.
But it seems odd they would wait until the launch. Wouldn't it make more sense to push now and lock folks in before they find out what's coming. Especially if it won't officially be on Tmobile which means no viz voicemail etc
Well if you can't join them, beat them or something like that. Obviously they'll accept anyone with an unlocked iPhone but they'd prefer someone purchase a phone from them. That's not unreasonable.
Only if they are able to charge more. AT&T, for example, charges the same whether you use your own phone or buy a subsidized phone. Obviously, it's better for them if you use your own phone rather than them having to subsidize a phone to the tune of $400 or so.
I believe t-Mobile does give a discount if you bring your own phone, so it comes down to whether the discount is greater than the subsidy or not.
Straight talk is not without issues. And for many those issues negate the cheap rates
Yes, but in my experience, those are one-time issues. Once you get your phone set up on Straight Talk, I've been very pleased with the service - AT&T's network and the customer service is at least as good. But if you can't stand a little futzing around with your phone, definitely stay away from Straight Talk. (I can't, however, say if t-Mobile is any better, though).
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hehehe, truly
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Originally Posted by Ochyming
The ANDROID + WINDOWS vendors cartel at work. I said they are cartels.
This is ANTI-Competition.
You can take the tin foil hat off now.
Quote:
Lazy corporations will tore the USA economy down ( In the this age when innovation IS the sole opportunity to grow? ). The cheap-minded people will win.
Like Apple refusing to change the Springboard UI after five years of practically no changes?
That may be true - but if that's the issue, why doesn't the document talk about selling against AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint? The fact that it specifically mentions the iPhone (as well as the fact that the iPhone works on t-Mobile, anyway) suggests that it's a hardware issue that they want to sell against, not the networks.
Well if you can't join them, beat them or something like that. Obviously they'll accept anyone with an unlocked iPhone but they'd prefer someone purchase a phone from them. That's not unreasonable.
Originally Posted by dasanman69
Well if you can't join them, beat them or something like that. Obviously they'll accept anyone with an unlocked iPhone but they'd prefer someone purchase a phone from them. That's not unreasonable.
I thought the subsidies were what were "killing" carriers…
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Originally Posted by logandigges
First AT&T, now T-Mobile
Carriers are real fucktards.
When T-mobile can't sell you an iphone, what could possibly be your issue with them selling against it?
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Screw 'em. When all of these customers COME TO YOU with their devices, you don't sell them something else. That's the best sign of just not getting it at all.
Just get your unlocked (or even NOT) iPhone on launch day, walk into a T-Mobile store when they're the busiest, and say you "would have liked to get T-Mobile service on the iPhone" you just purchased, but apparently "T-Mobile is going to try to sell me a different phone today, so I think I'll go with someone else…"
Actually they don't do that. They have way cheaper plans unsubsidized.
Yeah but at the same time they love those 2 yr contracts.
Originally Posted by dasanman69
Yeah but at the same time they love those 2 yr contracts.
Yeah, and you're paying that when you bring them your iPhone. The difference is they make MORE money on it because they don't have to deal with the phone and the subsidy therewith.
Tmobile is the only carrier that has cheaper plans if you bring in your own phone. I'm also sure that a few dimwits will go into a tmobile store on launch day looking for the new iPhone and they have a plan for those that do instead of flat out telling them no. They'll offer them another device or if they already have a 4/4S they offer them a cheaper plan.
Originally Posted by dasanman69
Tmobile is the only carrier that has cheaper plans if you bring in your own phone.
Straight Talk's cheaper still. And they even have yearly plans. Unless you're talking specifically about "contracts", of course.
I'm also sure that a few dimwits will go into a tmobile store on launch day looking for the new iPhone… They'll offer them another device or if they already have a 4/4S they offer them a cheaper plan.
Why isn't a better idea telling them to go to an Apple Store, buy an unlocked iPhone, and then come back and we'll get you on our plan? Then they get the phone they want and T-Mobile gets the customer they want. Yeah, the guy has to make another trip, but T-Mobile wastes nothing on subsidy.
Because on the way back from Apple they might pass by the Straight Talk store and never make it back lol
But they don't get ny commissions off those customers. They have the kits to avoid bleed off.
But it seems odd they would wait until the launch. Wouldn't it make more sense to push now and lock folks in before they find out what's coming. Especially if it won't officially be on Tmobile which means no viz voicemail etc
Straight talk is not without issues. And for many those issues negate the cheap rates
Originally Posted by charlituna
Straight talk is not without issues. And for many those issues negate the cheap rates
What've you heard? I've heard, but what've you heard?
Only if they are able to charge more. AT&T, for example, charges the same whether you use your own phone or buy a subsidized phone. Obviously, it's better for them if you use your own phone rather than them having to subsidize a phone to the tune of $400 or so.
I believe t-Mobile does give a discount if you bring your own phone, so it comes down to whether the discount is greater than the subsidy or not.
Yes, but in my experience, those are one-time issues. Once you get your phone set up on Straight Talk, I've been very pleased with the service - AT&T's network and the customer service is at least as good. But if you can't stand a little futzing around with your phone, definitely stay away from Straight Talk. (I can't, however, say if t-Mobile is any better, though).