HP taken to task for releasing iMac clone

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  • Reply 101 of 178
    sennensennen Posts: 1,466member


    Obvious copy is obvious.

  • Reply 102 of 178
    That's the best Meg Whitman can do? LOL!
    Really!
  • Reply 103 of 178
    solipsismx wrote: »
    1) I don't think the Vizio is a knockoff, although they were clearly inspired by Apple's iMac aesthetics.
    2) I don't think the Vizio looks very good. That metal pole it stands on reminds of cheap lamps that had that same kind of metal pole.
    3) Don't call him childish. That is a personal attack. If you think his posts are childish then refer to the posts as such.
    4) I don't think his comment was childish.

    *snicker*

    *gaffaw*

    *chuckle*

    that's extremely childish.

    I didn't come through with the cliche tired points...I agree that HP is too inspired and even pointed to a good inspired design that to anyone with any true unbiased sense would not consider a copy.



    I do agree with you about the pole on the Vizio...but I still think the device overall looks very good.
  • Reply 104 of 178
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    also the HP isn't as much of a copycat as you think
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    The accessories definitely are, however.
    Because their AIO is ugly.
  • Reply 105 of 178


    LL

    Heh.
    Yea...that looks NOTHING like the Vizio and I'd be shocked if that was even in their design notes when they were getting inspiration from Apple (which they openly admit btw)

    Inspiration isn't a crime.
    LL

    Yes, by Apple.

    Who gives a damn if Apple inspires a better general design in tech? Give a damn about copies but not inspiration. WP7 was inspired by Apple...Android 4.1 was inspired by Apple...WebOS was inspired by Apple...The OneX and the Lumia were inspired by Apple.

    TouchWhiz Copied Apple...Samsung Copied Apple.

    Your real issue is an inability to discern between Copied and Inspired.
  • Reply 106 of 178
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    techboy wrote: »
    With designs so similar to Apple, it's no wonder Apple's is suing everyone under the sun! Oh, I'm sure other PC makers will claim they have other inspirational sources...
    Remind me when Apple has sued a Wintel OEM for copying iMac or MacBook?
  • Reply 107 of 178
    rogifan wrote: »
    Because their AIO is ugly.

    If ugly = not as good looking as the iMac then yes I agree...

    but it isn't ugly on it's own...but like everything it doesn't exist in a vacuum.


    PS...every woman is uglier than the most beautiful woman in the world at the moment.
  • Reply 108 of 178
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Has HP or any other Wintel OEM ever said they were inspired by Apple? I think one of the Vizio execs said they admired Apple. But all HP ever said was Apple doesn't have a patent on silver. Also it's one thing to be inspired by a design ethos from 30-40 years ago, completely another to mimic something from 5 years ago,
  • Reply 109 of 178

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist View Post



    This is really just a parallel of what's happening in politics… Apple is like the cool Democrats who implement good ideas that benefit more people, while the PC/Windows makers are like stuffy, stodgy Republicans who have no ideas and no soul. HP could have made their all-in-one look less like the iMac, there really are many different ways to design a computer. For manufacturers to say "Apple's designs were really the only way to make devices ranging from PCs to tablets to smartphones" is to deny history and reality. Apple simply found a better way - and they are entitled to own that.


     


    "Cool Democrats"???  I think you forgot the /s.

  • Reply 110 of 178


    Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post

    Your real issue is an inability to discern between Copied and Inspired.


     


    "The shape of a cubic function I saw in a newspaper article inspired my redefinition of an economic growth pattern."


     


    "This is the computer that everyone likes and wants, so I copied the design to make my computer look like it and am selling my own."


     


    I think I'm pretty well set. You, on the other hand…

  • Reply 111 of 178
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    We shouldn't just pick on HP. Dell got into the act a month or two ago. And before anyone chimes in, yes, I know it doesn't look 100% like an iMac. But it's still clear who they copied from. Problem is they tweak these designs so as not to be 100% Apple clone and then they end up looking like crap. Would be better if they started from scratch to begin with.

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  • Reply 112 of 178
    sennensennen Posts: 1,466member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post



    Who gives a damn if Apple inspires a better general design in tech? Give a damn about copies but not inspiration.


     


    It is a good thing for companies to be inspired to design better products, however they should take their own design direction rather than re-jigging the design of a competitor. That is what would be good for the market, not cashing in on the cache that currently surrounds Apple's products.

  • Reply 113 of 178
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    If ugly = not as good looking as the iMac then yes I agree...
    but it isn't ugly on it's own...but like everything it doesn't exist in a vacuum.
    PS...every woman is uglier than the most beautiful woman in the world at the moment.

    Ok I'll grant you there are uglier AIO's like this:

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  • Reply 114 of 178
    There's no arguing with you people.

    If you think the Vizio is a copy...then you can't be reasoned with...and now homeboy up there thinks the Dell is a copy...

    The HP is arguably a copy...but the Dell and the Vizio? come on man.

    Apple is allowed to inspire...companies are allowed to be inspired by...Vizio made a great design that was openly inspired by Apple....inspiration and mimicry and modification is how humans function naturally....it's how we advance...we do not advance by copying, however...which is why I frown on Samsung and as seen here HP, and the new laptops coming out that look remarkably like mutated Macbooks...

    But not everything is TOO inspired or copied...Vizio found a great way to show that you can be inspired, evenly openly so, and still come up with a good looking unique design.

    HP didn't...
  • Reply 115 of 178
    rogifan wrote: »
    Ok I'll grant you there are uglier AIO's like this:
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    now I have to ask....should companies be forced to design those since good looking Apple inspired designs like the Vizio AIOs which do not look like iMacs are still frowned upon?

    Since the consumer has shown they like good designs should companies like Vizio NOT follow the design leader?
  • Reply 116 of 178
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    I guess all this moonlighting has allowd Jony Ive to purchase a $17M 7,274 sq ft house in San Francscio. :p

    http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2012/09/10/apple-executive-buys-on-san-franciscos-gold-coast/?KEYWORDS=sarah+tilton
  • Reply 117 of 178
    jungmark wrote: »
    majortom1981, last time I checked Braun never released computers or portable electronic devices. (cordless Razors don't count).
    But they do count! Don't you realize that the holes in the bottom of the new iPhone are actually the foil that covers the cutter blades of the razor?
  • Reply 118 of 178
    I do agree with you about the pole on the Vizio...but I still think the device overall looks very good.

    I could agree with that if price was weighed in as a factor. I don't recall the prices of the Vizio but I do seem to recall them not being bad for the money.

    What we really should be asking ourselves is why in a world that vastly moved from desktops to notebooks for traditional PCs, and a world where the traditional PC sale is dwindling are companies now seemingly making a lot more AIOs when that was previously just a stupid Apple thing? From a personal standpoint the iPad and iPhone have made want a desktop again, but one that doesn't have all the wires of a traditional setup.
  • Reply 119 of 178
    sennen wrote: »
    It is a good thing for companies to be inspired to design better products, however they should take their own design direction rather than re-jigging the design of a competitor. That is what would be good for the market, not cashing in on the cache that currently surrounds Apple's products.

    You'll agree numbers don't lie I hope, so who's doing better Samsung that copied Apple or Nokia that didn't? Not saying it's right just more profitable.
  • Reply 120 of 178
    solipsismx wrote: »
    I could agree with that if price was weighed in as a factor. I don't recall the prices of the Vizio but I do seem to recall them not being bad for the money.
    What we really should be asking ourselves is why in a world that vastly moved from desktops to notebooks for traditional PCs, and a world where the traditional PC sale is dwindling are companies now seemingly making a lot more AIOs when that was previously just a stupid Apple thing? From a personal standpoint the iPad and iPhone have made want a desktop again, but one that doesn't have all the wires of a traditional setup.

    I think the criticism of AIOs came from gamers and those that enjoyed tinkering with their PCs hardware. I would say that the vast majority of PC owners would prefer a AIO setup.
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