Does it matter that the Touch will be using a processor similar to the one now powering the iPad 2? Has anyone complained that the iPad is underpowered and if not, why would such processing power be a problem for a significantly smaller device?
I doubt if we can get iPad mini for 250$. I am more tending towards expecting one for $349 or at least 299$.
$349 is too much, especialy considering the iPad 2 is priced at $400. If Apple is selling the Touch at $200 or shocking everyone and pricing it at $150, that makes more pricing room to lower the iPad Mini from $299 to $249. I don't want to see any of them come w/only 8GB of space, especially if they have better cameras on them. You would need that space for pictures or videos. 16GB minimum please.
iPod Touch is a fantastic device that does pretty much everything an iPhone does, just without the phone and phone plan. I will most likely buy the new one simply to use in the house as an iDevice controller and as a portable media player for my car.
I can receive iMessages when I'm out..... nope
I can use the thousands of apps that depend on a network connection when I'm out..... nope
I can use the GPS feature.... nope
I can play games for hours.... not on any current touch
I can play music for hours..... YES!
I could buy a small tablet with all the limitations of the iPod touch, but a much larger screen for the same price..... YES!
Personally I see no appeal, but clearly you do and that's great.
I hate to say it but I think the Ipad Mini should probably be priced around $249 after seeing the new Kind Fire HDs which actually have some seemingly impressive new features (watch the Amazon Keynote) for a good price.
Does it matter that the Touch will be using a processor similar to the one now powering the iPad 2? Has anyone complained that the iPad is underpowered and if not, why would such processing power be a problem for a significantly smaller device?
I have a 3rd gen Touch. With each OS upgrade, it gets more glitchy. Touches don't respond, apps crash more, Safari crashes, sometimes it takes a touch 3 seconds to register. Yep, this thing needs more power. I pity anyone who buys a iPhone 3gs 3 year old technology now.
iPod Touch is a fantastic device that does pretty much everything an iPhone does, just without the phone and phone plan.
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Originally Posted by Bregalad
I can receive iMessages when I'm out..... nope
I can use the thousands of apps that depend on a network connection when I'm out..... nope
I can use the GPS feature.... nope
I can play games for hours.... not on any current touch
I can play music for hours..... YES!
I could buy a small tablet with all the limitations of the iPod touch, but a much larger screen for the same price..... YES!
Personally I see no appeal, but clearly you do and that's great.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
It's not supposed to be an iPhone. What you don't see is the purpose of the device itself.
Oh c'mon Tallest, it's clear he was disputing sflocal's claim that it did almost everything the iPhone did. He wasn't the one claiming it should be an iPhone. Actually neither of them do, but only one of them claimed it was so close to an iPhone. Hint, it wasn't Bregalad. I don't know what stops him from playing games while he is out and I know while in transit I wouldn't have wi-fi, but most places I go have free wi-fi anymore, so wi-fi only isn't too terrible of a restriction.
Oh c'mopn Tallest, it's clear he was disputing sflocal's claim that it did almost everything the iPhone did.
And as sflocal explicitly said "pretty much", there wasn't anything to dispute.
What he COULD have said, and which he did not, is "the features in functional parity are not in qualitative parity", and could have gone on to talk about how the iPod touch's cameras are of worse quality, how the speaker is worse (niggling, but valid), etc.
And as sflocal explicitly said "pretty much", there wasn't anything to dispute.
What he COULD have said, and which he did not, is "the features in functional parity are not in qualitative parity", and could have gone on to talk about how the iPod touch's cameras are of worse quality, how the speaker is worse (niggling, but valid), etc.
Saying pretty much and then having a number of mostly valid points brought up doesn't sound like pretty much to me. It seemed like there was plenty there to dispute to me. "It's like an iPhone, but wireless only, no GPS and less powerful, but fully capable of other communication and game tasks when on wi-fi" yeah that would be the valid version of pretty much
Saying pretty much and then having a number of mostly valid points brought up doesn't sound like pretty much to me. It seemed like there was plenty there to dispute to me. "It's like an iPhone, but wireless only, no GPS and less powerful, but fully capable of other communication and game tasks when on wi-fi" yeah that would be the valid version of pretty much
I dunno; I don't think you can consider the lack of a feature the device was never designed to have a shortcoming.
I can receive iMessages when I'm out..... nope
I can use the thousands of apps that depend on a network connection when I'm out..... nope
I can use the GPS feature.... nope
I can play games for hours.... not on any current touch
I can play music for hours..... YES!
I could buy a small tablet with all the limitations of the iPod touch, but a much larger screen for the same price..... YES!
Personally I see no appeal, but clearly you do and that's great.
The appeal is that instead of paying something like $60 a month to maintain an iPhone, I have a cellphone that costs me less than $30 a month and yet with a Touch have access to many of the programs that the iPhone runs. If I pay $200 for a Touch and combine it with a $30 a month cellphone, every three years that runs me $1,280 before taxes. An iPhone in that same three years would cost me $2,259. Is it worth it for me to save $979 every three years in exchange for losing a few bits of functionality? You bet.
Amazing how we have learned which SOC the new iPod will have but we still do not have any good leads concerning which the iPhone 5 is going to employ, though everyone suspects it will be the A6. I need to jump into a time machine or press fast forward to find out I guess!
Amazing how we have learned which SOC the new iPod will have but we still do not have any good leads concerning which the iPhone 5 is going to employ, though everyone suspects it will be the A6. I need to jump into a time machine or press fast forward to find out I guess!
Doesn't the lack of Audience processing make a strong case for A6 (or, rather, something not A5)?
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Does it matter that the Touch will be using a processor similar to the one now powering the iPad 2? Has anyone complained that the iPad is underpowered and if not, why would such processing power be a problem for a significantly smaller device?
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Originally Posted by cnraghu
I doubt if we can get iPad mini for 250$. I am more tending towards expecting one for $349 or at least 299$.
$349 is too much, especialy considering the iPad 2 is priced at $400. If Apple is selling the Touch at $200 or shocking everyone and pricing it at $150, that makes more pricing room to lower the iPad Mini from $299 to $249. I don't want to see any of them come w/only 8GB of space, especially if they have better cameras on them. You would need that space for pictures or videos. 16GB minimum please.
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Originally Posted by sflocal
iPod Touch is a fantastic device that does pretty much everything an iPhone does, just without the phone and phone plan. I will most likely buy the new one simply to use in the house as an iDevice controller and as a portable media player for my car.
I can receive iMessages when I'm out..... nope
I can use the thousands of apps that depend on a network connection when I'm out..... nope
I can use the GPS feature.... nope
I can play games for hours.... not on any current touch
I can play music for hours..... YES!
I could buy a small tablet with all the limitations of the iPod touch, but a much larger screen for the same price..... YES!
Personally I see no appeal, but clearly you do and that's great.
I hate to say it but I think the Ipad Mini should probably be priced around $249 after seeing the new Kind Fire HDs which actually have some seemingly impressive new features (watch the Amazon Keynote) for a good price.
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Originally Posted by Carmissimo
Does it matter that the Touch will be using a processor similar to the one now powering the iPad 2? Has anyone complained that the iPad is underpowered and if not, why would such processing power be a problem for a significantly smaller device?
I have a 3rd gen Touch. With each OS upgrade, it gets more glitchy. Touches don't respond, apps crash more, Safari crashes, sometimes it takes a touch 3 seconds to register. Yep, this thing needs more power. I pity anyone who buys a iPhone 3gs 3 year old technology now.
Originally Posted by Bregalad
Personally I see no appeal, but clearly you do and that's great.
It's not supposed to be an iPhone. What you don't see is the purpose of the device itself.
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Originally Posted by sflocal
iPod Touch is a fantastic device that does pretty much everything an iPhone does, just without the phone and phone plan.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bregalad
I can receive iMessages when I'm out..... nope
I can use the thousands of apps that depend on a network connection when I'm out..... nope
I can use the GPS feature.... nope
I can play games for hours.... not on any current touch
I can play music for hours..... YES!
I could buy a small tablet with all the limitations of the iPod touch, but a much larger screen for the same price..... YES!
Personally I see no appeal, but clearly you do and that's great.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
It's not supposed to be an iPhone. What you don't see is the purpose of the device itself.
Oh c'mon Tallest, it's clear he was disputing sflocal's claim that it did almost everything the iPhone did. He wasn't the one claiming it should be an iPhone. Actually neither of them do, but only one of them claimed it was so close to an iPhone. Hint, it wasn't Bregalad. I don't know what stops him from playing games while he is out and I know while in transit I wouldn't have wi-fi, but most places I go have free wi-fi anymore, so wi-fi only isn't too terrible of a restriction.
Originally Posted by SSquirrel
Oh c'mopn Tallest, it's clear he was disputing sflocal's claim that it did almost everything the iPhone did.
And as sflocal explicitly said "pretty much", there wasn't anything to dispute.
What he COULD have said, and which he did not, is "the features in functional parity are not in qualitative parity", and could have gone on to talk about how the iPod touch's cameras are of worse quality, how the speaker is worse (niggling, but valid), etc.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
And as sflocal explicitly said "pretty much", there wasn't anything to dispute.
What he COULD have said, and which he did not, is "the features in functional parity are not in qualitative parity", and could have gone on to talk about how the iPod touch's cameras are of worse quality, how the speaker is worse (niggling, but valid), etc.
Saying pretty much and then having a number of mostly valid points brought up doesn't sound like pretty much to me. It seemed like there was plenty there to dispute to me. "It's like an iPhone, but wireless only, no GPS and less powerful, but fully capable of other communication and game tasks when on wi-fi" yeah that would be the valid version of pretty much
Originally Posted by SSquirrel
Saying pretty much and then having a number of mostly valid points brought up doesn't sound like pretty much to me. It seemed like there was plenty there to dispute to me. "It's like an iPhone, but wireless only, no GPS and less powerful, but fully capable of other communication and game tasks when on wi-fi" yeah that would be the valid version of pretty much
I dunno; I don't think you can consider the lack of a feature the device was never designed to have a shortcoming.
The appeal is that instead of paying something like $60 a month to maintain an iPhone, I have a cellphone that costs me less than $30 a month and yet with a Touch have access to many of the programs that the iPhone runs. If I pay $200 for a Touch and combine it with a $30 a month cellphone, every three years that runs me $1,280 before taxes. An iPhone in that same three years would cost me $2,259. Is it worth it for me to save $979 every three years in exchange for losing a few bits of functionality? You bet.
Originally Posted by PeterAlt
Amazing how we have learned which SOC the new iPod will have but we still do not have any good leads concerning which the iPhone 5 is going to employ, though everyone suspects it will be the A6. I need to jump into a time machine or press fast forward to find out I guess!
Doesn't the lack of Audience processing make a strong case for A6 (or, rather, something not A5)?
I'm just going to put this out there... I wonder if the iPhone 5 will have a 32-nanometre A5 chip with the second core enabled...
Edit - guess I should have read the post just above this one! I stopped reading when everyone kept posting in circles.
I still think a dual, or even quad, core A5 is possible though.
(apologies if this topic has already been beaten to death on another discussion thread!)
Originally Posted by ajay
any possibility that the iPod Touch would get a SIM slot for 3G/4G data like the iPad?
I'd say zero percent and at all points in the future.