Well that's too bad, but at least I've already downgraded my iPad. Not sure what I'm going to do for development now but I know I'm not upgrading again for a while.
Goodbye iOS 6...
Why? Maps in the browser is better then the old maps app. Particularly on the iPad.
The iOS 6 Maps app is an upgrade to the original Maps app. There never has been a Google Maps app, by the way. The original Maps app was Apple's software, the Maps app used Google's map data. But a change was necessary due to Google would not provide Apple with certain APIs in order to have turn by turn voice nav. So, Apple's new map data supplier is TomTom, which has been curating
The thing people seem to have forgotten is that the original maps app sucked.
I don't need no Google Maps. I like Apple Maps.
I don't need to StreetView. I prefer FlyOver.
I remember the initial backlash for Final Cut Pro and now everyone loves it.
Apple Maps will rule the worlds.
Time will tell.
Flyover doesn't even come close to streetview. as fo final cut, the video school my son is attending has dropped it for Adobe, so no, not everyone loves it.
Flyover doesn
Here's a quick tip: When asking a question to someone known for giving "terse" answers, DON'T MAKE IT A COMPOUND QUESTION! Was he saying "nope" that Google has submitted the app? Or, was he saying "nope" about Apple "sitting on it?"
and your a lawyer? Your suppose to be able to muddle through the crap and confusion.
"posted on Thursday, September 20th, 2012 at 6:pm. PT
Written by Jim Dalrymple
QUOTE: Additionally, we've learned an updated iOS 6 version of the Google
Maps.app has been submitted to Apple. END QUOTE
Nope."
Clearly Jim Dalrymple is quoting the above statement. And his answer "Nope" states that it is not true. Never mind the AI tittle and graphics which is just sensational to get more clicks.
Here's a quick tip: When asking a question to someone known for giving "terse" answers, DON'T MAKE IT A COMPOUND QUESTION! Was he saying "nope" that Google has submitted the app? Or, was he saying "nope" about Apple "sitting on it?"
Why? Maps in the browser is better then the old maps app. Particularly on the iPad.
I don't want location information on the browser, I want the ability to save locations without a Google account, and the web app takes ages to update your positions (especially in areas with low reception) and is sluggish compared to the native app (this also applies to the new Maps which run at like 10-20fps). I'll get an iPad Mini for development as soon as they come out; in the mean time I'll stick to the Simulator for a month for iOS 6 support. I really didn't want to miss the downgrade window now that the beta is over.
Why? Maps in the browser is better then the old maps app. Particularly on the iPad.
Worse, in my opinion, at least on my iOS 5 'new' iPad. The native app is smooth, browser on site has a very noticeable loss in frame rate when scrolling. It's still usable, but I don't see where it is better than the old app.
Well that's too bad, but at least I've already downgraded my iPad. Not sure what I'm going to do for development now but I know I'm not upgrading again for a while.
Goodbye iOS 6...
Pardon my ignorance, but what software is in that image?
You sound completely reasonable and not acting in a knee-jerk reactionary fashion at all. It must be nice to be so level-headed.
Core functionality is broken, so upgrading to a previous version of the OS where it worked is unreasonable?
Wow. That's a level of stupid I just can't fathom.
Anyway, I'm now waiting on two things before I'll even consider installing 6:
• An untethered jailbreak (absolute deal-killer for me, jailbreak adds mandatory functionality.)
• Google Maps app
It's a shame about the maps. Anyone thinking about it already knew this was going to be broken, though. Apple has NEVER had any mapping competency, and good mapping is actually hard.
You have no idea how difficult it is. This article really opened my eyes as to why Google Maps will retain technical superiority to all other mapping solutions for some time to come.
Core functionality is broken, so upgrading to a previous version of the OS where it worked is unreasonable?
Wow. That's a level of stupid I just can't fathom.
Anyway, I'm now waiting on two things before I'll even consider installing 6:
• An untethered jailbreak (absolute deal-killer for me, jailbreak adds mandatory functionality.)
• Google Maps app
It's a shame about the maps. Anyone thinking about it already knew this was going to be broken, though. Apple has NEVER had any mapping competency, and good mapping is actually hard.
You have no idea how difficult it is. This article really opened my eyes as to why Google Maps will retain technical superiority to all other mapping solutions for some time to come.
The article succinctly explains the process with a high level of detail. What are your issues with it?
It's not that anything in the article about how Google develops a map was factually incorrect. It's more that the motions Google goes thru to build a map are much the same as Navteq, AND, Tomtom, MS, Delorme and several others go thru. The basics weren't conceived by Google, nor even more recent developments like on-line crowd-sourced error reporting. The Atlantic article made it sound as tho all other digital map-makers might as well throw in the towel now. Google has done a great job of map-making in a relatively short time, but very few of their tools are unique, original or unable to be matched by a truly dedicated competitor.
"[QUOTE]The internet search giant's mapping service has been refined for nearly a decade...[/QUOTE] Google maps debuted in 2005. 7+ years is hardly a decade. I'd say that's clear spin to make a sympathetic argument for Apple. Oh, poor Apple...Maps is days old and google's is nearly a [I]decade[/I] old...what were you all expecting? (Sarcasm)
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Why? Maps in the browser is better then the old maps app. Particularly on the iPad.
The thing people seem to have forgotten is that the original maps app sucked.
Flyover doesn't even come close to streetview. as fo final cut, the video school my son is attending has dropped it for Adobe, so no, not everyone loves it.
Flyover doesn
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetlaw
Here's a quick tip: When asking a question to someone known for giving "terse" answers, DON'T MAKE IT A COMPOUND QUESTION! Was he saying "nope" that Google has submitted the app? Or, was he saying "nope" about Apple "sitting on it?"
and your a lawyer? Your suppose to be able to muddle through the crap and confusion.
"posted on Thursday, September 20th, 2012 at 6:pm. PT
Written by Jim Dalrymple
QUOTE: Additionally, we've learned an updated iOS 6 version of the Google
Maps.app has been submitted to Apple. END QUOTE
Nope."
Clearly Jim Dalrymple is quoting the above statement. And his answer "Nope" states that it is not true. Never mind the AI tittle and graphics which is just sensational to get more clicks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jetlaw
Here's a quick tip: When asking a question to someone known for giving "terse" answers, DON'T MAKE IT A COMPOUND QUESTION! Was he saying "nope" that Google has submitted the app? Or, was he saying "nope" about Apple "sitting on it?"
Agreed. The correct answer is, "Nope. Nope."
I don't want location information on the browser, I want the ability to save locations without a Google account, and the web app takes ages to update your positions (especially in areas with low reception) and is sluggish compared to the native app (this also applies to the new Maps which run at like 10-20fps). I'll get an iPad Mini for development as soon as they come out; in the mean time I'll stick to the Simulator for a month for iOS 6 support. I really didn't want to miss the downgrade window now that the beta is over.
Though it wasn't replacing something that didn't suck.
For now just use maps online.
Worse, in my opinion, at least on my iOS 5 'new' iPad. The native app is smooth, browser on site has a very noticeable loss in frame rate when scrolling. It's still usable, but I don't see where it is better than the old app.
Pardon my ignorance, but what software is in that image?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Booga
You sound completely reasonable and not acting in a knee-jerk reactionary fashion at all. It must be nice to be so level-headed.
Core functionality is broken, so upgrading to a previous version of the OS where it worked is unreasonable?
Wow. That's a level of stupid I just can't fathom.
Anyway, I'm now waiting on two things before I'll even consider installing 6:
• An untethered jailbreak (absolute deal-killer for me, jailbreak adds mandatory functionality.)
• Google Maps app
It's a shame about the maps. Anyone thinking about it already knew this was going to be broken, though. Apple has NEVER had any mapping competency, and good mapping is actually hard.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/09/how-google-builds-its-maps-and-what-it-means-for-the-future-of-everything/261913/
Core functionality is broken, so upgrading to a previous version of the OS where it worked is unreasonable?
Wow. That's a level of stupid I just can't fathom.
Anyway, I'm now waiting on two things before I'll even consider installing 6:
• An untethered jailbreak (absolute deal-killer for me, jailbreak adds mandatory functionality.)
• Google Maps app
It's a shame about the maps. Anyone thinking about it already knew this was going to be broken, though. Apple has NEVER had any mapping competency, and good mapping is actually hard.
Originally Posted by Waverunnr
I doubt Google will submit a maps app since their mapping solution is a significant selling point for team Android.
Yeah, they'll sure ignore the iOS revenue, won't they.
Originally Posted by DarkVader
…jailbreak adds mandatory functionality.
No phone in the history of telephony has worked without jailbreaking.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Waverunnr
You have no idea how difficult it is. This article really opened my eyes as to why Google Maps will retain technical superiority to all other mapping solutions for some time to come.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/09/how-google-builds-its-maps-and-what-it-means-for-the-future-of-everything/261913/
Take that article with a grain of salt. It's not as magical as that particular reporter, unfamiliar with LBS or mapping issues, made it sound like.
Take that article with a grain of salt. It's not as magical as that particular reporter, unfamiliar with LBS or mapping issues, made it sound like.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Waverunnr
The article succinctly explains the process with a high level of detail. What are your issues with it?
It's not that anything in the article about how Google develops a map was factually incorrect. It's more that the motions Google goes thru to build a map are much the same as Navteq, AND, Tomtom, MS, Delorme and several others go thru. The basics weren't conceived by Google, nor even more recent developments like on-line crowd-sourced error reporting. The Atlantic article made it sound as tho all other digital map-makers might as well throw in the towel now. Google has done a great job of map-making in a relatively short time, but very few of their tools are unique, original or unable to be matched by a truly dedicated competitor.
Google maps debuted in 2005. 7+ years is hardly a decade. I'd say that's clear spin to make a sympathetic argument for Apple. Oh, poor Apple...Maps is days old and google's is nearly a [I]decade[/I] old...what were you all expecting? (Sarcasm)
Originally Posted by antkm1
Google maps debuted in 2005. 7+ years is hardly a decade.
That might explain why the article says 'nearly'.