[" url="/t/152892/apple-attempt-to-trademark-music-app-icon-trumped-by-older-myspace-property#post_2198388"]Who in the hell uses MySpace anymore? That brand is worthless today, and Apple should offer them $10.00 for the trademark. That's 10 dollars more than it's worth.
I'm not on MySpace or Facebook, but I wouldn't mind if Facebook eventually follows in MySpace's footsteps.
Into obscurity or allowing people to pimp out their pages with glittery crap?
Who in the hell uses MySpace anymore? That brand is worthless today, and Apple should offer them $10.00 for the trademark. That's 10 dollars more than it's worth.
So by your logic the mark is only worth $10 to Apple too then right? Good going.
If Apple doesn't get this overturned, my guess is that their next move is to pay off MySpace to buy their trademark. It does seem pretty odd, though. The two logos don't look anything alike.
Are you joking? Those two icons don't look any different than a Samsung and Apple phone. Orange with a music note; Same degree of similarity IMHO.
They have control over trademarks that are registered in the US and products that are sold in the US.
So what is confusing you?
Your ability to read for starters.
I replied to "Rot'nApple", who posted to four trademark articles that all referenced companies that operate outside the US, and wanted a similar thing to happen with them, and since they operate outside the US, how can the US trademark organisation provide a similar result when they have no control over them? So what is confusing you?
I replied to "Rot'nApple", who posted to four trademark articles that all referenced companies that operate outside the US, and wanted a similar thing to happen with them, and since they operate outside the US, how can the US trademark organisation provide a similar result when they have no control over them? So what is confusing you?
I really wouldn't comment on anyone else's ability to read when yours isn't looking so sharp either. The OP was pointing out the BS hypocrisy that exists in these forums. The fact that it's okay for Apple to do something but if another company turns around and does the same thing it's wrong, evil, etc. Whether or not those trademark cases are inside the US or not is completely beside the point.
I really wouldn't comment on anyone else's ability to read when yours isn't looking so sharp either. The OP was pointing out the BS hypocrisy that exists in these forums. The fact that it's okay for Apple to do something but if another company turns around and does the same thing it's wrong, evil, etc. Whether or not those trademark cases are inside the US or not is completely beside the point.
Actually since different countries have different laws it is very much the point, you cannot demand a similar result for anything when you are involving different justice systems, to even think so is rather naive.
They each use a two eighth notes beamed together and use an orange background. There are plenty of other notes and colors to use. Even if it's coincidental, it MySpace trademarked that logo appropriately then I'd think Apple would be in violation.
Now I think the double eighth note might predate MySpace by several years with iTunes back on System 9, but I'd have to check to be sure. But why orange when they split off iTunes Music and Videos? Overall don't care about the color but I can't say I like it.
They could make it a pair of dotted quarter notes beamed together and that would be different
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Apple has a more serious issue to worry about than the icon of the music app. They need to fix the music app itself, because some key features have been removed and it is now worse than it was before.
I can't delete an individual song anymore? That's devolution, not evolution. So, if I want to get rid of something, I have to delete the entire library? Wow, what a great solution.
WTF are you talking about? I delete individual songs all the time. You make no sense here.
Good. Let's hope they scrap this awful icon. Everytime I see it it makes me want to vomit, they should really fire the intern that designed it. It's nothing like Apple's other icons and doesn't fit at all. Any child could have made this - select "clouds" texture, select awful orange colour. Add note. It looks completely unfinished. Awful.
If Apple doesn't get this overturned, my guess is that their next move is to pay off MySpace to buy their trademark. It does seem pretty odd, though. The two logos don't look anything alike.
They look more than enough alike to cause confusion. Apple will simply need to change this.
Good. Let's hope they scrap this awful icon. Everytime I see it it makes me want to vomit, they should really fire the intern that designed it. It's nothing like Apple's other icons and doesn't fit at all. Any child could have made this - select "clouds" texture, select awful orange colour. Add note. It looks completely unfinished. Awful.
So a bunch of hate talk about how generically "bad" something is, filled with assumptions based on no information whatsoever passed off as objective fact, and offering no means of improvement himself.
They each use a two eighth notes beamed together and use an orange background. There are plenty of other notes and colors to use. Even if it's coincidental, it MySpace trademarked that logo appropriately then I'd think Apple would be in violation.
Now I think the double eighth note might predate MySpace by several years with iTunes back on System 9, but I'd have to check to be sure. But why orange when they split off iTunes Music and Videos? Overall don't care about the color but I can't say I like it.
Apple would not be "in violation." They simply had their trademark app denied because it was deemed substantially similar to the MySpace icon. I happen to disagree on that point, but that's what was decided. Apple is free to keep using the icon as long as MySpace doesn't try to sue them for infringement. Speaking of which, they'd have a much higher burden to carry there. They'd have to prove that consumers could confuse the Apple mark with MySpace's/iLike's brand, and show financial damages as a result. Good luck with that.
The difference is that the Apple version is an ascending scale where as MySpace's version is descending which ironically is somewhat emblematic of their relative popularity.
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Into obscurity or allowing people to pimp out their pages with glittery crap?
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
Who in the hell uses MySpace anymore? That brand is worthless today, and Apple should offer them $10.00 for the trademark. That's 10 dollars more than it's worth.
So by your logic the mark is only worth $10 to Apple too then right? Good going.
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Originally Posted by KPOM
If Apple doesn't get this overturned, my guess is that their next move is to pay off MySpace to buy their trademark. It does seem pretty odd, though. The two logos don't look anything alike.
Are you joking? Those two icons don't look any different than a Samsung and Apple phone. Orange with a music note; Same degree of similarity IMHO.
I was unaware that the US Trademark Board had the ability of trademark control over companies that are not based/operating in the US?
They have control over trademarks that are registered in the US and products that are sold in the US.
So what is confusing you?
Your ability to read for starters.
I replied to "Rot'nApple", who posted to four trademark articles that all referenced companies that operate outside the US, and wanted a similar thing to happen with them, and since they operate outside the US, how can the US trademark organisation provide a similar result when they have no control over them? So what is confusing you?
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Originally Posted by jfanning
Your ability to read for starters.
I replied to "Rot'nApple", who posted to four trademark articles that all referenced companies that operate outside the US, and wanted a similar thing to happen with them, and since they operate outside the US, how can the US trademark organisation provide a similar result when they have no control over them? So what is confusing you?
I really wouldn't comment on anyone else's ability to read when yours isn't looking so sharp either. The OP was pointing out the BS hypocrisy that exists in these forums. The fact that it's okay for Apple to do something but if another company turns around and does the same thing it's wrong, evil, etc. Whether or not those trademark cases are inside the US or not is completely beside the point.
yeah, i'll confuse it. what the hell is 'myspace' anyway? simple fix.
Actually since different countries have different laws it is very much the point, you cannot demand a similar result for anything when you are involving different justice systems, to even think so is rather naive.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
They each use a two eighth notes beamed together and use an orange background. There are plenty of other notes and colors to use. Even if it's coincidental, it MySpace trademarked that logo appropriately then I'd think Apple would be in violation.
Now I think the double eighth note might predate MySpace by several years with iTunes back on System 9, but I'd have to check to be sure. But why orange when they split off iTunes Music and Videos? Overall don't care about the color but I can't say I like it.
They could make it a pair of dotted quarter notes beamed together and that would be different
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Originally Posted by Apple ][
Apple has a more serious issue to worry about than the icon of the music app. They need to fix the music app itself, because some key features have been removed and it is now worse than it was before.
I can't delete an individual song anymore? That's devolution, not evolution. So, if I want to get rid of something, I have to delete the entire library? Wow, what a great solution.
WTF are you talking about? I delete individual songs all the time. You make no sense here.
Good. Let's hope they scrap this awful icon. Everytime I see it it makes me want to vomit, they should really fire the intern that designed it. It's nothing like Apple's other icons and doesn't fit at all. Any child could have made this - select "clouds" texture, select awful orange colour. Add note. It looks completely unfinished. Awful.
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Originally Posted by KPOM
If Apple doesn't get this overturned, my guess is that their next move is to pay off MySpace to buy their trademark. It does seem pretty odd, though. The two logos don't look anything alike.
They look more than enough alike to cause confusion. Apple will simply need to change this.
Originally Posted by Hutcho
Good. Let's hope they scrap this awful icon. Everytime I see it it makes me want to vomit, they should really fire the intern that designed it. It's nothing like Apple's other icons and doesn't fit at all. Any child could have made this - select "clouds" texture, select awful orange colour. Add note. It looks completely unfinished. Awful.
So a bunch of hate talk about how generically "bad" something is, filled with assumptions based on no information whatsoever passed off as objective fact, and offering no means of improvement himself.
Standard troll post, yep.
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Originally Posted by SSquirrel
WTF are you talking about? I delete individual songs all the time. You make no sense here.
Before, I would just swipe to the right and a delete button showed up next to the song which you could press if you wanted to delete a song.
Under iO6 in the music app, nothing happens when I swipe to the right next to a song.
So if you're still able to delete a song like you claim, then I'm curious as to how you do it?
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
They each use a two eighth notes beamed together and use an orange background. There are plenty of other notes and colors to use. Even if it's coincidental, it MySpace trademarked that logo appropriately then I'd think Apple would be in violation.
Now I think the double eighth note might predate MySpace by several years with iTunes back on System 9, but I'd have to check to be sure. But why orange when they split off iTunes Music and Videos? Overall don't care about the color but I can't say I like it.
Apple would not be "in violation." They simply had their trademark app denied because it was deemed substantially similar to the MySpace icon. I happen to disagree on that point, but that's what was decided. Apple is free to keep using the icon as long as MySpace doesn't try to sue them for infringement. Speaking of which, they'd have a much higher burden to carry there. They'd have to prove that consumers could confuse the Apple mark with MySpace's/iLike's brand, and show financial damages as a result. Good luck with that.
Oh ...the irony.
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Originally Posted by SSquirrel
WTF are you talking about? I delete individual songs all the time. You make no sense here.
I should also point out that I subscribe to iTunes Match.
iOS6 is a massive downgrade for iTunes Match users. If they don't make it right, then I obviously won't bother to subscribe next year.
The difference is that the Apple version is an ascending scale where as MySpace's version is descending which ironically is somewhat emblematic of their relative popularity.