You mis-spelled "I was hiding my head in shame after Samsung's drubbing in California".
You're a funny little guy Joe. If you remember I said more than once that Samsung deserved to be found guilty of infringing on Apple trade dress. It's not very honest of you if you're infering otherwise.
What percentage are free apps, $.99 apps and premium apps? What are the sales revenues for those purchase to date? How much have they paid out to developers?
Not only lite (Free) and paid, but often iphone (normal)/ ipad (hd) versions as well.
One thing Microsoft did right in their store, every app has a trial which is the same entry as the full version, just with 2 buttons, try or buy. Hope Apple goes that route as well. But hey, I'm already glad I don't get the login anymore for updates of my apps
As a developer, I sure hope not. The Free and then buy in is what has allowed developers to fine tune their applications and build n-tier options. Microsoft's approach is fine if you want to strangle hold your third party devs and bleed them dry.
Sorry, but the Apple solution with Apple's own $9.99 for their productivity products hits a sweet spot.
Not at all. They were defining 'zombie' apps as apps that don't get downloaded. Apple says 90% of apps get downloaded and are therefore not zombies. Thus the '2/3 of Apple App Store apps are zombies" statement is clearly wrong.
Apple also does periodic house cleaning on their App Store. Their approval process isn't fool proof so sometimes they need to see how user's are responding to apps before they know it's a bad app or company. There was that one flush that removed 943 apps from one developer and another that removed 6,000 because of inappropriate content.
Then there are all the crap apps and apps that clearly break the violations that aren't ever approved. Android fans saying "we're close" is pretty pathetic and pointless considering there are no restrictions on app uploads.
When Google opened their app store in Oct of 2008 it was in conjunction with release of the first Android phone, the HTC Dream, rolled out that same day. In fact the original Google app store didn't even have paid apps. That didn't come until several months later. Apple already had millions of iOS devices sold before the first Android phone ever hit the market. In effect Apple had a 16 month headstart on apps instead of just three that the article infers.
The "headstart" argument is weak because Android activations are so incredibly high that you can't use one and then ignore the other when claiming dominance. It's a package deal. Either your platform is more successful and better for users or it isn't.
if you are going to try to split hairs then the one vendor vs. every other vendor in the world model, plus the curated app store vs. the restriction less app store model should have Google Play trouncing the App Store in the way that it's killing it with activations, but it's not. Those great apps you find for iOS simply aren't on Google Play. You some well known devs on there but very few because most can't afford the cost to invest in a platform that is harder to develop for than iOS, isn't easy to get users to pay for your apps, and makes it very easy to steal your apps. This is not success. This is Sodom and Googlorra.
The "headstart" argument is weak because Android activations are so incredibly high that you can't use one and then ignore the other when claiming dominance. It's a package deal. Either your platform is more successful and better for users or it isn't.
if you are going to try to split hairs then the one vendor vs. every other vendor in the world model, plus the curated app store vs. the restriction less app store model should have Google Play trouncing the App Store in the way that it's killing it with activations, but it's not. Those great apps you find for iOS simply aren't on Google Play. You some well known devs on there but very few because most can't afford the cost to invest in a platform that is harder to develop for than iOS, isn't easy to get users to pay for your apps, and makes it very easy to steal your apps. This is not success. This is Sodom and Googlorra.
All valid points Soli, but I wasn't arguing about nor claiming "dominance" by either platform to begin with. My reply was to a poster who didn't understand why the Appstore hit 25 billion downloads before the Play Store did.
Yep. Nothing says "Quality" like having 20+ fart apps in an app store.
Thankfully, Apple finally put an end to adding even more fart apps. But oddly, this happened only after the author of one of them (who also distinguished himself by making a urination app) became the app store director, effectively cutting out his competition:
Do you honestly imagine that 90% of every tablet Samsung has ever shipped is sitting in some mysterious warehouse in Omaha alongside the Ark of the Covenant and alien artifacts?
Yes. Here is a good article on samsungs actual end sale to customers versus what they claim as shipped.
The sales figures for Samsung's devices only represent those models which Apple claims have infringed on its IP, totaling 21 million units sold over the period June 2010 to June 2012. Following the launch of the original Galaxy Tab in late 2010, Samsung only sold 262,000 units in the US,although it claimed it to have shipped over 2 million.
262,000 out of 2 million shipped? pretty close to 90% of there tabs sitting in dealers showrooms or warehouse shelves.
This articles information comes from subpoenaed court documents from samsung in there latest loss with apple.
Samsung lies horribly about there shipped and sales figures to the public. So does google about activations.
This article has the actual pdf of the court document attached if you want to look at the truth for yourself. and apples sales figures are there too.
The Android has nothing on iOS6. For instance, the new Netflix app on iOS6 blows any android version away. For those who don't have Netflix in your country, you can use UnoDNS to unlock geo-block contents and get US Netflix and Hulu and others.
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You just don't like being told you're completely wrong.
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Originally Posted by MacRulez
Do you honestly imagine that 90% of every tablet Samsung has ever shipped is sitting in some mysterious warehouse ....
Quite possibly, yes.
Otherwise, why wouldn't they put out the numbers?
Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Quite possibly, yes.
Otherwise, why wouldn't they put out the numbers?
Not to mention the fact that they were caught lying about the numbers. If they even exist at all, they're sitting in a warehouse.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
You mis-spelled "I was hiding my head in shame after Samsung's drubbing in California".
You're a funny little guy Joe. If you remember I said more than once that Samsung deserved to be found guilty of infringing on Apple trade dress. It's not very honest of you if you're infering otherwise.
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Originally Posted by mausz
Not only lite (Free) and paid, but often iphone (normal)/ ipad (hd) versions as well.
One thing Microsoft did right in their store, every app has a trial which is the same entry as the full version, just with 2 buttons, try or buy. Hope Apple goes that route as well. But hey, I'm already glad I don't get the login anymore for updates of my apps
As a developer, I sure hope not. The Free and then buy in is what has allowed developers to fine tune their applications and build n-tier options. Microsoft's approach is fine if you want to strangle hold your third party devs and bleed them dry.
Sorry, but the Apple solution with Apple's own $9.99 for their productivity products hits a sweet spot.
Apple also does periodic house cleaning on their App Store. Their approval process isn't fool proof so sometimes they need to see how user's are responding to apps before they know it's a bad app or company. There was that one flush that removed 943 apps from one developer and another that removed 6,000 because of inappropriate content.
Then there are all the crap apps and apps that clearly break the violations that aren't ever approved. Android fans saying "we're close" is pretty pathetic and pointless considering there are no restrictions on app uploads.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Fill in the blank: Fart Apps is to App Store as Your Post is to ______
Shit! Nobody told me there was gonna be a test on this! Anyone have some notes I can borrow?
The "headstart" argument is weak because Android activations are so incredibly high that you can't use one and then ignore the other when claiming dominance. It's a package deal. Either your platform is more successful and better for users or it isn't.
if you are going to try to split hairs then the one vendor vs. every other vendor in the world model, plus the curated app store vs. the restriction less app store model should have Google Play trouncing the App Store in the way that it's killing it with activations, but it's not. Those great apps you find for iOS simply aren't on Google Play. You some well known devs on there but very few because most can't afford the cost to invest in a platform that is harder to develop for than iOS, isn't easy to get users to pay for your apps, and makes it very easy to steal your apps. This is not success. This is Sodom and Googlorra.
Right and Apple never lied about all it's Fart Apps.
Those are actually science apps for testing and simulating methane exposure.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
The "headstart" argument is weak because Android activations are so incredibly high that you can't use one and then ignore the other when claiming dominance. It's a package deal. Either your platform is more successful and better for users or it isn't.
if you are going to try to split hairs then the one vendor vs. every other vendor in the world model, plus the curated app store vs. the restriction less app store model should have Google Play trouncing the App Store in the way that it's killing it with activations, but it's not. Those great apps you find for iOS simply aren't on Google Play. You some well known devs on there but very few because most can't afford the cost to invest in a platform that is harder to develop for than iOS, isn't easy to get users to pay for your apps, and makes it very easy to steal your apps. This is not success. This is Sodom and Googlorra.
All valid points Soli, but I wasn't arguing about nor claiming "dominance" by either platform to begin with. My reply was to a poster who didn't understand why the Appstore hit 25 billion downloads before the Play Store did.
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Originally Posted by MacRulez
Yep. Nothing says "Quality" like having 20+ fart apps in an app store.
Thankfully, Apple finally put an end to adding even more fart apps. But oddly, this happened only after the author of one of them (who also distinguished himself by making a urination app) became the app store director, effectively cutting out his competition:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/08/apple-fart-apps/all/
URL?
Do you honestly imagine that 90% of every tablet Samsung has ever shipped is sitting in some mysterious warehouse in Omaha alongside the Ark of the Covenant and alien artifacts?
Yes. Here is a good article on samsungs actual end sale to customers versus what they claim as shipped.
http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/08/10/details.of.us.apple.and.samsung.sales.revealed.for.first.time/
a quote from the article:
The sales figures for Samsung's devices only represent those models which Apple claims have infringed on its IP, totaling 21 million units sold over the period June 2010 to June 2012. Following the launch of the original Galaxy Tab in late 2010, Samsung only sold 262,000 units in the US,although it claimed it to have shipped over 2 million.
262,000 out of 2 million shipped? pretty close to 90% of there tabs sitting in dealers showrooms or warehouse shelves.
This articles information comes from subpoenaed court documents from samsung in there latest loss with apple.
Samsung lies horribly about there shipped and sales figures to the public. So does google about activations.
This article has the actual pdf of the court document attached if you want to look at the truth for yourself. and apples sales figures are there too.
infact here is the link to the court document pdf
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1286669/Apple_v_Samsung_US_sales_numbers.pdf