The explanation is simple. Consumers have no interest in Windows Phone. They never did. Windows Phone brought nothing overly compelling to the market when it was introduced, and *still* brings nothing overly compelling to the table.
Post iPhone, if your newbie platform can't turn the industry on its head, it won't make much of an impact.
As I have previously stated, Apple should offer to purchase Navteq. Such a negotiation could include perpetual, non-exclusive worldwide rights to offer Apple Maps on Nokia products.
Buy or license or stick to their own knitting, just want to add the data point that Maps and Navteq are both vectorized solutions......
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Originally Posted by lav1daloca
What a disgrace!!! This mighty company fell on its knees as soon as they decided to move to Microsoft's shitty Windows platform. Microsoft's trojan horse, Mr. Stephen Elop, despite being known as the worlds worst CEO to ever live on this planet continues to run this company even further into the ground. This worst CEO ever made decisions that broke all prior records on how to destroy a company and now holds the WORLD RECORD IN MARKET SHARE DESTRUCTION.
FIRE THE CEO, FIRE ALL BOARD MEMBERS WHO APPROVED HIS DECISIONS AND TERMINATE THE MICROSOFT PARTNERSHIP IMMEDIATELY!!!!!! OTHERWISE DIE!!!!!!!
Whatever the case is about Elop, this company was already on its knees at the time...
...and from where they are (they've already transferred the Meego rights to some ex-employees) and Symbian's no answer, if your plan was followed, where do they go? The "die is cast" - they make it on Windows Phone 8 (dicey, as even if WP8's a success, HTC's already releasing arguably superior versions and the Samsung machine's gearing up) or they DO die...
Don't blame current Nokia or Microsoft senior managers for this. Blame the previous one's and the old 'we are too big to fail with Symbian' culture in Nokia. In some extent blame old Nokia users as well for getting too comfy with the platform not looking outward for changes soon enough and continue backing up the dying platform.
Unless Nokia has some patents of value, Nokia has nothing which an Apple or Msft or Chinese company would want to buy. Like all companies, The Nokia business became nothing more than the administrative side -- the managers, financial advisers, the lawyers, the CEO and his friends. The substance of the company no longer exists.
If you are ignorant to what other companies do, they why should anyone value your input?
How viable of a strategy could that actually be? They would still have to maintain some sort of HQ somewhere. And is there really that much of a market for a 200-300 Euro building?
Rovio are based in Espoo and probably have enough money!
...and, is that sailboat in the background somehow symbolic? Or merely skewed by Google's graphics?
It appears to be sailing right off the road!
I noticed that sailboat too and wondered about it. Did you look closely at the headquarters? It looked like washday in the tenements. The lack of parking facilities is also evident by the lines of cars on the roadsides leading up to the HQ.
Micorosoft's dedication to Nokia was evident to me when Ballmer went elsewhere to have their Surface products manufactured.
Nokia made a huge mistake in ditching Symbian and Meego for Windows Phone. Well, maybe not Symbian. In Meego they had a great platform, the N9 did exceptionally well despite the fact Meego was already cancelled before they unveiled the N9. I was invested in Nokia once upon a time (for a week, made a quick trade and made some money), and I remember watching the N9's unveiling. I also remember the stock price going down shortly afterwards because of the realization that Nokia ditched something great for something that was both mediocre and that they didn't have control over.
Also, MSFT is not nearly as dedicated to Nokia as they thought... Look at HTC's unveiling of they Windows 8 phones. Or the Surface. Nokia is merely going to be one of several WP8 manufacturers.
Really though, Nokia's problem is culture. They became too big of an organization, crippled by bureaucracy, and unable to change quick enough. Asian companies have evolved much quicker.
Nokia should have pushed Meego hard, and not put all their eggs in the Microsoft basket (for everything Microsoft has succeeded at, they've also failed many times).
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Apple should buy them. With Nokia comes Nokia Maps.
Not looking good.
http://www.neowin.net/news/comscore-microsofts-us-mobile-phone-market-share-has-dropped
The explanation is simple. Consumers have no interest in Windows Phone. They never did. Windows Phone brought nothing overly compelling to the market when it was introduced, and *still* brings nothing overly compelling to the table.
Post iPhone, if your newbie platform can't turn the industry on its head, it won't make much of an impact.
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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro
As I have previously stated, Apple should offer to purchase Navteq. Such a negotiation could include perpetual, non-exclusive worldwide rights to offer Apple Maps on Nokia products.
Buy or license or stick to their own knitting, just want to add the data point that Maps and Navteq are both vectorized solutions......
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Originally Posted by lav1daloca
What a disgrace!!! This mighty company fell on its knees as soon as they decided to move to Microsoft's shitty Windows platform. Microsoft's trojan horse, Mr. Stephen Elop, despite being known as the worlds worst CEO to ever live on this planet continues to run this company even further into the ground. This worst CEO ever made decisions that broke all prior records on how to destroy a company and now holds the WORLD RECORD IN MARKET SHARE DESTRUCTION.
FIRE THE CEO, FIRE ALL BOARD MEMBERS WHO APPROVED HIS DECISIONS AND TERMINATE THE MICROSOFT PARTNERSHIP IMMEDIATELY!!!!!! OTHERWISE DIE!!!!!!!
Whatever the case is about Elop, this company was already on its knees at the time...
...and from where they are (they've already transferred the Meego rights to some ex-employees) and Symbian's no answer, if your plan was followed, where do they go? The "die is cast" - they make it on Windows Phone 8 (dicey, as even if WP8's a success, HTC's already releasing arguably superior versions and the Samsung machine's gearing up) or they DO die...
I, myself left Nokia in 2008.
Quite a lot of companies do the same thing, if the building is worth that much it is better to sell it and then rent it back.
Because he has the boards blessing
If you are ignorant to what other companies do, they why should anyone value your input?
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Originally Posted by BigBillyGoatGruff
How viable of a strategy could that actually be? They would still have to maintain some sort of HQ somewhere. And is there really that much of a market for a 200-300 Euro building?
Rovio are based in Espoo and probably have enough money!
I know a lot of you thought "Espoo" was a comment on their products, not their location (rim shot),
but I have a question or two:
if they become homeless, should we call them "Hobokia" instead?
and, is that sailboat in the background somehow symbolic? Or merely skewed by Google's graphics?
It appears to be sailing right off the road!
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Originally Posted by boredumb
...and, is that sailboat in the background somehow symbolic? Or merely skewed by Google's graphics?
It appears to be sailing right off the road!
I noticed that sailboat too and wondered about it. Did you look closely at the headquarters? It looked like washday in the tenements. The lack of parking facilities is also evident by the lines of cars on the roadsides leading up to the HQ.
Micorosoft's dedication to Nokia was evident to me when Ballmer went elsewhere to have their Surface products manufactured.
Nokia made a huge mistake in ditching Symbian and Meego for Windows Phone. Well, maybe not Symbian. In Meego they had a great platform, the N9 did exceptionally well despite the fact Meego was already cancelled before they unveiled the N9. I was invested in Nokia once upon a time (for a week, made a quick trade and made some money), and I remember watching the N9's unveiling. I also remember the stock price going down shortly afterwards because of the realization that Nokia ditched something great for something that was both mediocre and that they didn't have control over.
Also, MSFT is not nearly as dedicated to Nokia as they thought... Look at HTC's unveiling of they Windows 8 phones. Or the Surface. Nokia is merely going to be one of several WP8 manufacturers.
Really though, Nokia's problem is culture. They became too big of an organization, crippled by bureaucracy, and unable to change quick enough. Asian companies have evolved much quicker.
Nokia should have pushed Meego hard, and not put all their eggs in the Microsoft basket (for everything Microsoft has succeeded at, they've also failed many times).