What's new. This same story appears a month before (and for a month or two after) every Apple product launch. That's what happens when you're trying to build millions upon millions of the same product in a two month span.
Or even more simply, "I predicted they would come out in Septmeber. I was wrong. I blew it. But to cover up my bad analysis I'm going to make up a ficticious supply chain issue, or exaggerate a minor one, in order to explain why I was wrong. No really, I am a good analyst. I was only wrong because Apple screwed up their ramp up of the production lines. It's all their fault. Really. Trust me (this time)!"
I think you are right, logically, it would make more sense for them to have them separated by a month or so just to deal with supply chain issues as well as things like shipping, Apple store lines, etc.
For example, the iPhone has the number 5. How does that prove that there will never be an iPhone 6 or 7 or 2000?
I think he is saying that as long as it is called iPhone (N), there will not be some other model of iPhone such as an iPhone mini or iPhone nano or iPhone 4.85" maxi.
I think he is saying that as long as it is called iPhone (N), there will not be some other model of iPhone such as an iPhone mini or iPhone nano or iPhone 4.85" maxi.
Bingo, using the same definition as the iPad, should that definition be true.
But then again, "what Apple says at any one second is completely meaningless and they can change it later ignoring that they ever did it differently in the past".
I think he is saying that as long as it is called iPhone (N), there will not be some other model of iPhone such as an iPhone mini or iPhone nano or iPhone 4.85" maxi.
That doesn't make sense either.
First, for the iPhone, they have different versions on sale at the same time - iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, and iPhone 5. Obviously, there's nothing stopping them from selling more than one version at the same time.
More importantly, look at their other products:
iPod. They have an iPod Touch, iPod Classic, iPod Nano, and iPod Shuffle.
MacBook Air. They have an 11" and 13" models - and both are called MacBook Air.
iMac. They have 21" and 27" models - and both are called iMac.
And so on.
Other than the fact that he's spreading FUD every time he can to try to pooh pooh the idea of a smaller iPad, there's absolutely no reason at all why they can't offer multiple sizes.
Something to read in direct sunlight with one hand and running off a looooong charge.
Like a high tech Kindle on iOS.
That would limit the device and the pricing would have to reflect that for sales to be successful. Apple is supposedly targeting the 7" tablet market, where an e-reader is one of many functions of the device, albeit lacking as a reader in direct sunlight.
The pricing of this iPad Mini will be most intriguing. With the new iPod Touch price set, they've obviously figured out their pricing scheme. But can they price the iPad Mini cheaper than the iPod Touch? Doesn't make sense. But can they go noticeably higher than $299 when the 32GB version of Nexus 7 is rumored to be priced at $259?
If Apple can position this not just as a small iPad but as something with a distinctive purpose. I believe/hope they are launching this as a defensive move but rather as an offensive thrust - as in, this is what a 7" tablet should be about and this is how it should be used. Then price will be irrelevant.
If so, you are miming returns of his phantom shots ;p
I'm just standing on the other side asking him to retrieve the ball. If he doesn't go get it in much longer, I'll just set my paddle down and walk away.
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What's new. This same story appears a month before (and for a month or two after) every Apple product launch. That's what happens when you're trying to build millions upon millions of the same product in a two month span.
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Originally Posted by Wiggin
Or even more simply, "I predicted they would come out in Septmeber. I was wrong. I blew it. But to cover up my bad analysis I'm going to make up a ficticious supply chain issue, or exaggerate a minor one, in order to explain why I was wrong. No really, I am a good analyst. I was only wrong because Apple screwed up their ramp up of the production lines. It's all their fault. Really. Trust me (this time)!"I think you are right, logically, it would make more sense for them to have them separated by a month or so just to deal with supply chain issues as well as things like shipping, Apple store lines, etc.
How do you get that?
For example, the iPhone has the number 5. How does that prove that there will never be an iPhone 6 or 7 or 2000?
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Originally Posted by jragosta
How do you get that?
For example, the iPhone has the number 5. How does that prove that there will never be an iPhone 6 or 7 or 2000?
I think he is saying that as long as it is called iPhone (N), there will not be some other model of iPhone such as an iPhone mini or iPhone nano or iPhone 4.85" maxi.
Originally Posted by MacCentric
I think he is saying that as long as it is called iPhone (N), there will not be some other model of iPhone such as an iPhone mini or iPhone nano or iPhone 4.85" maxi.
Bingo, using the same definition as the iPad, should that definition be true.
But then again, "what Apple says at any one second is completely meaningless and they can change it later ignoring that they ever did it differently in the past".
That doesn't make sense either.
First, for the iPhone, they have different versions on sale at the same time - iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, and iPhone 5. Obviously, there's nothing stopping them from selling more than one version at the same time.
More importantly, look at their other products:
iPod. They have an iPod Touch, iPod Classic, iPod Nano, and iPod Shuffle.
MacBook Air. They have an 11" and 13" models - and both are called MacBook Air.
iMac. They have 21" and 27" models - and both are called iMac.
And so on.
Other than the fact that he's spreading FUD every time he can to try to pooh pooh the idea of a smaller iPad, there's absolutely no reason at all why they can't offer multiple sizes.
So how do you explain the iPod Touch, iPod Nano, iPod Classic, and iPod Shuffle?
Originally Posted by jragosta
So how do you explain the iPod Touch, iPod Nano, iPod Classic, and iPod Shuffle?
And those don't fit the description… how? The iPod has no numbers.
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Originally Posted by iSheldon
Not really.
iPad mini with E-Ink - then I'd get excited.
Something to read in direct sunlight with one hand and running off a looooong charge.
Like a high tech Kindle on iOS.
That would limit the device and the pricing would have to reflect that for sales to be successful. Apple is supposedly targeting the 7" tablet market, where an e-reader is one of many functions of the device, albeit lacking as a reader in direct sunlight.
That's a silly distinction. So Apple can only have multiple products in a category if they meet your silly, arbitrary naming convention?
Originally Posted by jragosta
That's a silly distinction. So Apple can only have multiple products in a category if they meet your silly, arbitrary naming convention?
ARE YOU READING THE THREAD?!
Of course. I enjoy seeing all the ridiculous reasons you keep throwing out as to why Apple can't release an iPad Mini.
Originally Posted by jragosta
Of course.
Then you'd know why what you've said most recently is completely off topic.
You don't. You're not reading the thread. All of your replies are meaningless.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Of course. I enjoy seeing all the ridiculous reasons you keep throwing out as to why Apple can't release an iPad Mini.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Then you'd know why what you've said most recently is completely off topic.
You don't. You're not reading the thread. All of your replies are meaningless.
Ping .... pong ....
Originally Posted by Harbinger
Ping .... pong ....
The ball went out of play on his side a while ago. He's just miming swings at this point.
The pricing of this iPad Mini will be most intriguing. With the new iPod Touch price set, they've obviously figured out their pricing scheme. But can they price the iPad Mini cheaper than the iPod Touch? Doesn't make sense. But can they go noticeably higher than $299 when the 32GB version of Nexus 7 is rumored to be priced at $259?
If Apple can position this not just as a small iPad but as something with a distinctive purpose. I believe/hope they are launching this as a defensive move but rather as an offensive thrust - as in, this is what a 7" tablet should be about and this is how it should be used. Then price will be irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
The ball went out of play on his side a while ago. He's just miming swings at this point.
If so, you are miming returns of his phantom shots ;p
Originally Posted by Harbinger
If so, you are miming returns of his phantom shots ;p
I'm just standing on the other side asking him to retrieve the ball. If he doesn't go get it in much longer, I'll just set my paddle down and walk away.