I would hope that Apple would go the same way AMD is going and merge the GPU with the CPU. That is in the sense that they are equals with respect to memory access.
Unheard of performance? Seriously do you think it is that easy to beat Intel at the performance game. Apple is doing extremely well with A6 it I'm left with the impression that Intel has yet to get serious about ATOM.
Sure it's not easy to beat Intel, but the first ARMv8 64 bit processor shows much promise. And the A6 shows that Apple has a processor development team that rivals the best.
Check out the X-Gene's performance and imagine a SoC that's solely designed for the purpose of running OS X in a Mac.
Sure it's not easy to beat Intel, but the first ARMv8 64 bit processor shows much promise. And the A6 shows that Apple has a processor development team that rivals the best.
Check out the X-Gene's performance and imagine a SoC that's solely designed for the purpose of running OS X in a Mac.
A power-optimized design comparing energy efficient to a current-generation processor that is tricked out to run a single-thread as fast as possible. Yes, that's a fair comparison.
There's a reason why Intel hasn't been ramping up the core count, (we're still at the same 4C/8T since Nehalem circa 2008!). General purpose software typically doesn't do well with threads.
The X-Gene has 32C/32T. It's clearly not even in the same class of design. This graph really should have been comparing to Intel's MIC.
Also: Update from Anandtech:
Quote:
APM has since pulled the slide it shared with us originally making the comparison to Intel's Sandy Bridge architecture. The implication being that its performance estimates may have been a bit too aggressive, only time will tell...
A power-optimized design comparing energy efficient to a current-generation processor that is tricked out to run a single-thread as fast as possible. Yes, that's a fair comparison.
There's a reason why Intel hasn't been ramping up the core count, (we're still at the same 4C/8T since Nehalem circa 2008!). General purpose software typically doesn't do well with threads.
The X-Gene has 32C/32T. It's clearly not even in the same class of design. This graph really should have been comparing to Intel's MIC.
Also: Update from Anandtech:
I think the slide is an interesting snippet of things to come from Arm and the direction Apple is going with mobile computing.
Surely the race is on for Apple's business...by the time iOS matures enough to replace Macs all together... Will Intel be able to beat ARM to that inevitable(?) destination?
It's going to be an interesting 2-3 years. The iPad/iPhone's power is exploding near vertically. You can already do more with them than you could PPC Macs?
I think the slide is an interesting snippet of things to come from Arm and the direction Apple is going with mobile computing.
Maybe maybe not. Personally I'd like to see Apple go 64 bit in iOS tablets as soon as possible.
Surely the race is on for Apple's business...by the time iOS matures enough to replace Macs all together... Will Intel be able to beat ARM to that inevitable(?) destination?
I think Intel lost already. ATOM was a sign that they just didn't get it.
It's going to be an interesting 2-3 years. The iPad/iPhone's power is exploding near vertically. You can already do more with them than you could PPC Macs?
I continue to be amazed at just how "good" my iPad is as a computing device. This is only an iPad 3, double the speed and add more storage and this little device will be hard to resist for many users.
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Speaking of storage I do wish that Apple would pull its head out of its ass and do something significant about flash storage space. IOS devices need far more affordable space. While a couple TB would be nice I can accept that the technology isn't there yet. Instead provide us with three real And significant options, say 32, 128, and 256 GB models. Maybe even 512GB at the top end. Make iPads fly.
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Originally Posted by wizard69
I would hope that Apple would go the same way AMD is going and merge the GPU with the CPU. That is in the sense that they are equals with respect to memory access.
Unheard of performance? Seriously do you think it is that easy to beat Intel at the performance game. Apple is doing extremely well with A6 it I'm left with the impression that Intel has yet to get serious about ATOM.
Sure it's not easy to beat Intel, but the first ARMv8 64 bit processor shows much promise. And the A6 shows that Apple has a processor development team that rivals the best.
Check out the X-Gene's performance and imagine a SoC that's solely designed for the purpose of running OS X in a Mac.
http://images.anandtech.com/galleries/1532/Screen Shot 2011-11-14 at 1.41.15 PM.png
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Originally Posted by retroneo
Sure it's not easy to beat Intel, but the first ARMv8 64 bit processor shows much promise. And the A6 shows that Apple has a processor development team that rivals the best.
Check out the X-Gene's performance and imagine a SoC that's solely designed for the purpose of running OS X in a Mac.
http://images.anandtech.com/galleries/1532/Screen Shot 2011-11-14 at 1.41.15 PM.png
A power-optimized design comparing energy efficient to a current-generation processor that is tricked out to run a single-thread as fast as possible. Yes, that's a fair comparison.
There's a reason why Intel hasn't been ramping up the core count, (we're still at the same 4C/8T since Nehalem circa 2008!). General purpose software typically doesn't do well with threads.
The X-Gene has 32C/32T. It's clearly not even in the same class of design. This graph really should have been comparing to Intel's MIC.
Also: Update from Anandtech:
Quote:
APM has since pulled the slide it shared with us originally making the comparison to Intel's Sandy Bridge architecture. The implication being that its performance estimates may have been a bit too aggressive, only time will tell...
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Originally Posted by AzN1337c0d3r
A power-optimized design comparing energy efficient to a current-generation processor that is tricked out to run a single-thread as fast as possible. Yes, that's a fair comparison.
There's a reason why Intel hasn't been ramping up the core count, (we're still at the same 4C/8T since Nehalem circa 2008!). General purpose software typically doesn't do well with threads.
The X-Gene has 32C/32T. It's clearly not even in the same class of design. This graph really should have been comparing to Intel's MIC.
Also: Update from Anandtech:
I think the slide is an interesting snippet of things to come from Arm and the direction Apple is going with mobile computing.
Surely the race is on for Apple's business...by the time iOS matures enough to replace Macs all together... Will Intel be able to beat ARM to that inevitable(?) destination?
It's going to be an interesting 2-3 years. The iPad/iPhone's power is exploding near vertically. You can already do more with them than you could PPC Macs?
Lemon Bon Bon.
Speaking of storage I do wish that Apple would pull its head out of its ass and do something significant about flash storage space. IOS devices need far more affordable space. While a couple TB would be nice I can accept that the technology isn't there yet. Instead provide us with three real And significant options, say 32, 128, and 256 GB models. Maybe even 512GB at the top end. Make iPads fly.
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Originally Posted by wizard69
I think Intel lost already. ATOM was a sign that they just didn't get it.
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A lot of consumers are just looking for the cheapest device that can run x86-64. Atom fills that role nicely.