Just for clarification ... is your logic therefore that the red states buy more right wing newspapers or they don't have or know how to use modern technology?
Just for clarification ... is your logic therefore that you agree that the NYTimes and Time mag are left-wing rags (with plummeting readership and declining revenue)?
Not really. Newsweek is dying (circulation down about 65% over the past 10 years!) This is a last ditch effort for them.
That said, I agree print will eventually go all or mostly digital. But Newsweek is not the standard to judge by here.
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Originally Posted by DieWalkure
That's funny!
Nobody questioned their falling circulation. I think it is their blatant left leaning bias that turns off many readers.
Moving to the digital will not help as long as they stay biased.
I think Time and NY Times will follow this path for the same reason :-)
Die Walkure
Back in pre-internet days when I had time to get bored, I once went through every page - make that every word - of an issue of "News"week with a pen doing my best to fairly rate what was "news" and what was opinion (of any stripe). I found that at best 15% was strictly factual (and not always fully vetted) information of any kind, while 85% was slant, take and spin. And of course, nearly all in the leftish direction.
When I read the Times today (because it does have material few others do at times, AND just to keep track of what today's talking points are going to be in the rest of the "mainstream media" and for the DNC and Dem politicians themselves, who seem to get their walking papers there, labeled the "Hallelujah Chorus" by one conservative wag some decades back, am amazed at the total bleed-through between the "paper of record's" "news" and "editorial" divisions - and not only in what they deem to publish and the spin, but also significantly in what they don't publish at all or bury on page 23. Though one can make the same complaint about most news publications, including those on the right.
If there ever was "objective journalism," it's become another lost art. In today's business models, nearly every news outlet seems to be taking sides, making reading or watching the news an exercise in reifying one's existing values and beliefs. I read the Washington Post, which is liberal overall, but does a much better job of maintaining a firewall between its news and op-ed divisions than the Times, and the most objective paper/website I know of is the Christian Science Monitor (which has few if any ties to being "Christian" or Christian Scientist in its modern incarnation, btw).
However, once the traditional publishing outlets either fully adapt or die, the survivors will find their niches on the net (tho' lest any get complacent, the nature of that beast is not static either, or people would still be making graphical messes on MySpace - and the Cloud itself, could be superceded by technologies still not even invented, though it will more likely gradually morph and incorporate those). And as for the net itself, in the US at least, in my totality of surfing, random and otherwise, my unscientific take (as someone "center right" on economic and geo-political matters, with libertarian and other quirky leanings) also seems to skew overall a bit to the left of the populace as a whole. Not to mention, also into many utterly banal and bizarre spaces, and with more (d'ohh, surprise) of a focus on matters of tech.
Whatever, the world's going where it's going. And while my gen may be the last that HAS to experience the ravages of aging in less than a hundred or many more years, some days I'm not overly sad that I'm getting old....
It's hard for weekly print magazines to compete with free, real-time news.
I'd like to think there will always be a market for content that's a little more researched, methodical, and big-picture.
charlituna
Even something like the TV guide needs to get with the digital age. It would probably be cake for them to go create a TV Guide Features that is either a paid section of their site/app or a magazine using a layout Entertainment Weekly does and still be able to fold in some video clips etc.
Perhaps there's a smaller overlap of people who watch traditional cable/broadcast TV, and people who are with the digital age. They already have a tv listings app.
Not to be too hyperbolic, but a digital version of TV guide features is like having a state-of-the-art iOS app for ham radio listeners.
Bring on the flaming from radio operators and users armed with Nielsen statistics from Two and a Half Men.
digitalclips
Just for clarification ... is your logic therefore that the red states buy more right wing newspapers or they don't have or know how to use modern technology?
I agree with both of those statements.
MacChelsea
I think Zinio's implementation of the e-mag concept is much better than Newsstand. The ability to zoom in and out of any page and the Text-only mode makes it way easier than Newsstand and even a printed magazine to read. Wonder why Newsstand doesn't allow its reader to pinch and zoom.
That ability depends on each magazine creator. Newsstand is more of a seperate storefront, not a content display engine.
pt123
Bummer. I guess that is one magazine I won't be able to read at my dentist office or in line at the supermarket.
You don't have an iOS device with you at those times?
Just for clarification ... is your logic therefore that you agree that the NYTimes and Time mag are left-wing rags (with plummeting readership and declining revenue)?
My logic is that it is progress just as we went from clay to papyrus. I made no politically slanted interpretation as did DieWalkure in his comment to which I replied, I simply tried to show his comment as silly.
Back in pre-internet days when I had time to get bored, I once went through every page - make that every word - of an issue of "News"week with a pen doing my best to fairly rate what was "news" and what was opinion (of any stripe). I found that at best 15% was strictly factual (and not always fully vetted) information of any kind, while 85% was slant, take and spin. And of course, nearly all in the leftish direction.
When I read the Times today (because it does have material few others do at times, AND just to keep track of what today's talking points are going to be in the rest of the "mainstream media" and for the DNC and Dem politicians themselves, who seem to get their walking papers there, labeled the "Hallelujah Chorus" by one conservative wag some decades back, am amazed at the total bleed-through between the "paper of record's" "news" and "editorial" divisions - and not only in what they deem to publish and the spin, but also significantly in what they don't publish at all or bury on page 23. Though one can make the same complaint about most news publications, including those on the right.
If there ever was "objective journalism," it's become another lost art. In today's business models, nearly every news outlet seems to be taking sides, making reading or watching the news an exercise in reifying one's existing values and beliefs. I read the Washington Post, which is liberal overall, but does a much better job of maintaining a firewall between its news and op-ed divisions than the Times, and the most objective paper/website I know of is the Christian Science Monitor (which has few if any ties to being "Christian" or Christian Scientist in its modern incarnation, btw).
However, once the traditional publishing outlets either fully adapt or die, the survivors will find their niches on the net (tho' lest any get complacent, the nature of that beast is not static either, or people would still be making graphical messes on MySpace - and the Cloud itself, could be superceded by technologies still not even invented, though it will more likely gradually morph and incorporate those). And as for the net itself, in the US at least, in my totality of surfing, random and otherwise, my unscientific take (as someone "center right" on economic and geo-political matters, with libertarian and other quirky leanings) also seems to skew overall a bit to the left of the populace as a whole. Not to mention, also into many utterly banal and bizarre spaces, and with more (d'ohh, surprise) of a focus on matters of tech.
Whatever, the world's going where it's going. And while my gen may be the last that HAS to experience the ravages of aging in less than a hundred or many more years, some days I'm not overly sad that I'm getting old....
I have found it best to get US news via the BBC in recent years for all of the above reasons. As an ex Brit and therefore not entrenched in any established dogma here (even though I've been here 22 years) I simply can't stand the news any more. There is little if any real news here these days that isn't spun. Then the other trend is toward sensationalism and this being AI, a good example of that is anything perceived being wrong with anything Apple makes (true or not) is front page news. Click bait at its worst.
I think Zinio%u2019s implementation of the e-mag concept is much better than Newsstand. The ability to zoom in and out of any page and the Text-only mode makes it way easier than Newsstand and even a printed magazine to read. Wonder why Newsstand doesn%u2019t allow its reader to pinch and zoom.
What are you talking about? I pinched and zoomed all day.
My biggest problem with iOS magazines is the implementation. Things are cool on Apple's end, but the publications themselves are enormous! I understand there are hardcore egos in the graphic layout biz, who demand a pixel-perfect recreation of their print pages, but I don't always have the bandwidth or storage space for 0.5 GB per issue.
Marco Arment's new magazine is how to properly make iOS publications. My hope is that since Newsweek is going entirely digital, they will no longer be held to the demands of print layout, and can provide accessible issues.
For what it's worth, I seem to recall that a lot of the problems magazines have in reproducing their look on an iPad/whatever is font licensing issues. They don't have the rights to reproduce their fonts of choice in digital format, leading them to the VERY unwieldy image-per-page versions that are prevalent now (looking at YOU, PixelMags!)
You don't have an iOS device with you at those times?
iDevice means magazine is not free and bringing an iPad along while shopping might result in iPad being dropped which leads back to the no longer available paper magazine
Other type of magazines (NatGeo, AD etc.) that usually publish articles with so many big size, high quality photos, with the inevitable need of being high res. pictures for the retina display, will eat the storage of your device quickly and that will remain a serious problem for a while.
On the other hand, newspapers on paper should really move to digital but I'm not sure how a newspaper app can compete with real-time, up-to-date websites (I don't mean every news site is inherently up-to-date though).
What the internet is taking on so far is the type of press that is said to offer the "quick", daily/weekly issues, news, comments, critics. Unfortunately, journalists are being replaced by bloggers that are mostly laymen and don't have to respect anyone or anything...
I believe the apps on tablets, smartphones are the future, however, there are still some issues with it.
For example, you could find more than one edition of a magazine (or more copies from the same, or even thinking about different magazines) at your dentist's, hairdresser's etc. waiting room that can be read by more than one person in the same time but on digital you need to provide so many devices for use. Doesn't matter you have a tablet/smartphone with you 'cause can't just access to that app from the dentist's tablet on yours. You with him won't have shared account, will you?
You can share digital material but only with your own devices, not with others.
It doesn't surprise me that they are ceasing the print edition. I was a Newsweek subscriber (print edition) for years. It used to be one of the best news magazines available. Things went downhill fast once they were sold and merged with The Daily Beast. It floundered significantly while they figured out exactly what they were going to do with the magazine. It was like the walking dead. It went from a robust magazine with great stories to something like a freebie news pamphlet. Whole sections were nothing more than full pages of a photo with a paragraph of actual copy. I finally let my subscription lapse. They practically begged me to renew my subscription. In fact, for a few months AFTER my subscription ended, I kept receiving the magazine. Just recently it stopped. I wondered why, but now I know. As bad as the magazine was, I can't imagine it will do significantly better in a digital only version. My guess is that it will die out...which is very sad. As for The Daily Beast...meh. It's a so so news site.
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
Just for clarification ... is your logic therefore that the red states buy more right wing newspapers or they don't have or know how to use modern technology?
Just for clarification ... is your logic therefore that you agree that the NYTimes and Time mag are left-wing rags (with plummeting readership and declining revenue)?
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Originally Posted by MJ1970
Not really. Newsweek is dying (circulation down about 65% over the past 10 years!) This is a last ditch effort for them.
That said, I agree print will eventually go all or mostly digital. But Newsweek is not the standard to judge by here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DieWalkure
That's funny!
Nobody questioned their falling circulation. I think it is their blatant left leaning bias that turns off many readers.
Moving to the digital will not help as long as they stay biased.
I think Time and NY Times will follow this path for the same reason :-)
Die Walkure
Back in pre-internet days when I had time to get bored, I once went through every page - make that every word - of an issue of "News"week with a pen doing my best to fairly rate what was "news" and what was opinion (of any stripe). I found that at best 15% was strictly factual (and not always fully vetted) information of any kind, while 85% was slant, take and spin. And of course, nearly all in the leftish direction.
When I read the Times today (because it does have material few others do at times, AND just to keep track of what today's talking points are going to be in the rest of the "mainstream media" and for the DNC and Dem politicians themselves, who seem to get their walking papers there, labeled the "Hallelujah Chorus" by one conservative wag some decades back, am amazed at the total bleed-through between the "paper of record's" "news" and "editorial" divisions - and not only in what they deem to publish and the spin, but also significantly in what they don't publish at all or bury on page 23. Though one can make the same complaint about most news publications, including those on the right.
If there ever was "objective journalism," it's become another lost art. In today's business models, nearly every news outlet seems to be taking sides, making reading or watching the news an exercise in reifying one's existing values and beliefs. I read the Washington Post, which is liberal overall, but does a much better job of maintaining a firewall between its news and op-ed divisions than the Times, and the most objective paper/website I know of is the Christian Science Monitor (which has few if any ties to being "Christian" or Christian Scientist in its modern incarnation, btw).
However, once the traditional publishing outlets either fully adapt or die, the survivors will find their niches on the net (tho' lest any get complacent, the nature of that beast is not static either, or people would still be making graphical messes on MySpace - and the Cloud itself, could be superceded by technologies still not even invented, though it will more likely gradually morph and incorporate those). And as for the net itself, in the US at least, in my totality of surfing, random and otherwise, my unscientific take (as someone "center right" on economic and geo-political matters, with libertarian and other quirky leanings) also seems to skew overall a bit to the left of the populace as a whole. Not to mention, also into many utterly banal and bizarre spaces, and with more (d'ohh, surprise) of a focus on matters of tech.
Whatever, the world's going where it's going. And while my gen may be the last that HAS to experience the ravages of aging in less than a hundred or many more years, some days I'm not overly sad that I'm getting old....
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Originally Posted by jd_in_sb
It's hard for weekly print magazines to compete with free, real-time news.
Weekly / monthly publications are where "traditional journalism" may (or may not) have an edge.
Longer-form in-depth reporting and analysis after the initial headline news.
But we're living in the age of TL;DR. I wonder how many of us get past the first 1000 words of any story.
Bummer. I guess that is one magazine I won't be able to read at my dentist office or in line at the supermarket.
jd_in_sb
It's hard for weekly print magazines to compete with free, real-time news.
I'd like to think there will always be a market for content that's a little more researched, methodical, and big-picture.
charlituna
Even something like the TV guide needs to get with the digital age. It would probably be cake for them to go create a TV Guide Features that is either a paid section of their site/app or a magazine using a layout Entertainment Weekly does and still be able to fold in some video clips etc.
Perhaps there's a smaller overlap of people who watch traditional cable/broadcast TV, and people who are with the digital age. They already have a tv listings app.
Not to be too hyperbolic, but a digital version of TV guide features is like having a state-of-the-art iOS app for ham radio listeners.
Bring on the flaming from radio operators and users armed with Nielsen statistics from Two and a Half Men.
digitalclips
Just for clarification ... is your logic therefore that the red states buy more right wing newspapers or they don't have or know how to use modern technology?
I agree with both of those statements.
MacChelsea
I think Zinio's implementation of the e-mag concept is much better than Newsstand. The ability to zoom in and out of any page and the Text-only mode makes it way easier than Newsstand and even a printed magazine to read. Wonder why Newsstand doesn't allow its reader to pinch and zoom.
That ability depends on each magazine creator. Newsstand is more of a seperate storefront, not a content display engine.
pt123
Bummer. I guess that is one magazine I won't be able to read at my dentist office or in line at the supermarket.
You don't have an iOS device with you at those times?
My logic is that it is progress just as we went from clay to papyrus. I made no politically slanted interpretation as did DieWalkure in his comment to which I replied, I simply tried to show his comment as silly.
I have found it best to get US news via the BBC in recent years for all of the above reasons. As an ex Brit and therefore not entrenched in any established dogma here (even though I've been here 22 years) I simply can't stand the news any more. There is little if any real news here these days that isn't spun. Then the other trend is toward sensationalism and this being AI, a good example of that is anything perceived being wrong with anything Apple makes (true or not) is front page news. Click bait at its worst.
What are you talking about? I pinched and zoomed all day.
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Originally Posted by Vorsos
My biggest problem with iOS magazines is the implementation. Things are cool on Apple's end, but the publications themselves are enormous! I understand there are hardcore egos in the graphic layout biz, who demand a pixel-perfect recreation of their print pages, but I don't always have the bandwidth or storage space for 0.5 GB per issue.
Marco Arment's new magazine is how to properly make iOS publications. My hope is that since Newsweek is going entirely digital, they will no longer be held to the demands of print layout, and can provide accessible issues.
For what it's worth, I seem to recall that a lot of the problems magazines have in reproducing their look on an iPad/whatever is font licensing issues. They don't have the rights to reproduce their fonts of choice in digital format, leading them to the VERY unwieldy image-per-page versions that are prevalent now (looking at YOU, PixelMags!)
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Originally Posted by Vorsos
You don't have an iOS device with you at those times?
iDevice means magazine is not free and bringing an iPad along while shopping might result in iPad being dropped which leads back to the no longer available paper magazine
Other type of magazines (NatGeo, AD etc.) that usually publish articles with so many big size, high quality photos, with the inevitable need of being high res. pictures for the retina display, will eat the storage of your device quickly and that will remain a serious problem for a while.
On the other hand, newspapers on paper should really move to digital but I'm not sure how a newspaper app can compete with real-time, up-to-date websites (I don't mean every news site is inherently up-to-date though).
What the internet is taking on so far is the type of press that is said to offer the "quick", daily/weekly issues, news, comments, critics. Unfortunately, journalists are being replaced by bloggers that are mostly laymen and don't have to respect anyone or anything...
I believe the apps on tablets, smartphones are the future, however, there are still some issues with it.
For example, you could find more than one edition of a magazine (or more copies from the same, or even thinking about different magazines) at your dentist's, hairdresser's etc. waiting room that can be read by more than one person in the same time but on digital you need to provide so many devices for use. Doesn't matter you have a tablet/smartphone with you 'cause can't just access to that app from the dentist's tablet on yours. You with him won't have shared account, will you?
You can share digital material but only with your own devices, not with others.
It doesn't surprise me that they are ceasing the print edition. I was a Newsweek subscriber (print edition) for years. It used to be one of the best news magazines available. Things went downhill fast once they were sold and merged with The Daily Beast. It floundered significantly while they figured out exactly what they were going to do with the magazine. It was like the walking dead. It went from a robust magazine with great stories to something like a freebie news pamphlet. Whole sections were nothing more than full pages of a photo with a paragraph of actual copy. I finally let my subscription lapse. They practically begged me to renew my subscription. In fact, for a few months AFTER my subscription ended, I kept receiving the magazine. Just recently it stopped. I wondered why, but now I know. As bad as the magazine was, I can't imagine it will do significantly better in a digital only version. My guess is that it will die out...which is very sad. As for The Daily Beast...meh. It's a so so news site.