Re: Dropbox, I think because you (obviously) think well of it that it's distorting the world for you. Dropbox is not as popular as you think and outside of the USA it's useless for many purposes. For instance in Canada and most of Europe, using DropBox for any kind of government job or anything in the education field would violate some fairly serious privacy and data protection laws.
Really? That would come as a surprise to many people in the education field in Canada and Europe. Can you please point me to the source of this gem of information so that I can enlighten my friends and colleagues accordingly before they are arrested?
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Personally, I think it's way over-rated even if you live in the USA and can use it. It seems like every time I see a computer that's crawling like a snail and I have to figure out why, DropBox is turning out to be the culprit lately.
Every time? Funny that we have 200 machines running DropBox on Windows and another 25 running it on Macs here in my vicinity (education field by the way, and constant sharing with government types) and nary a crawler. You just have all the bad luck, don't you? Or perhaps you take a bit of creative license in making your point?
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Originally Posted by pedromartins
Great app, great storage bonus for colleges/universities... It's the best cloud solution for most people.
Great app indeed. But the best? Can you describe your comparison metrics and process? Which alternatives did you try? For how long?
I can't speak for Canadians, but any europeans should be well aware of the risks. If you REALLY want some detailled info on Privacy issues in the EU then please feel free to contact me. I don't really think we want to hijack this thread and get onto data protection/privacy in too much detail. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.
You'll lose that bet. MS Office on Surface RT is pretty much crippled like the pending iOS version. Many of the features of the full Office suite are hard to implement in a touch interface. That may be why Apple's iWork is not fully featured as well. You can do most of the basic things regarding editing with either program.
Somehow thousands of enterprise users are enjoying their iPads without Office, it's turned out to not be the "Killer" app that would hold up the acceptance of Apple iPads in the enterprise market. Strangely enough, the fact that MS Surface requires Windows * may prove to be an entrance barrier to enterprise IT that doesn't want to let Win8 into the house with their Win7 or earlier MS OS.
If you keep your animations and transitions down to a minimum, and use compatible fonts, you can export your KN file as PPT. Shows up pretty well at the other end.
Even PPT Mac to PPT Win don't open the same many times.
I can't speak for Canadians, but any europeans should be well aware of the risks. If you REALLY want some detailled info on Privacy issues in the EU then please feel free to contact me. I don't really think we want to hijack this thread and get onto data protection/privacy in too much detail. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.
There is a difference between respecting privacy and the statement that use of Facebook, etc. in the classroom being banned by law. That's what "full of shit" statement is based on, in part.
I think not. Not sure how is Office 365 going to work on iPad, but for Windows desktop users, if you have valid 365 subscription, you are entitled to download and use desktop software... so you are not limited to Internet connectivity. There is (probably) requirement for software to re-activate once a month or something like that. That is much as I remember...
You'll lose that bet. MS Office on Surface RT is pretty much crippled like the pending iOS version. Many of the features of the full Office suite are hard to implement in a touch interface. That may be why Apple's iWork is not fully featured as well. You can do most of the basic things regarding editing with either program.
Somehow thousands of enterprise users are enjoying their iPads without Office, it's turned out to not be the "Killer" app that would hold up the acceptance of Apple iPads in the enterprise market. Strangely enough, the fact that MS Surface requires Windows * may prove to be an entrance barrier to enterprise IT that doesn't want to let Win8 into the house with their Win7 or earlier MS OS.
Office RT is free for non-profit (viewing AND editing docs), but corporates are supposed to have one of licensing options to be liable to use it for business. It is a bit more flexible than on iOS, though. Beside having Office 365 subscription, corporate users can unlock Office RT for business use by having Office 2013 VL licenses on their desktops. Since most of business users will have desktop/laptop beside tablet, it is not too bad. As long as businesses don't want to stick with their old Office 2010/2007/2003 licenses.
Beside that, you lose macro/VB support... but rest is pretty much up there.
It goes without saying that MS wants corporates to go for Pro tablets and x86 Windows/Office... but even in RT form, Office is a cut above other tablet options.
I think the OP was referring to the iOS version of Pages. It cannot edit templates. While I can live with it (the finishing touches to my documents are made on a Mac), I think this is an omission that could be addressed.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Re: Dropbox, I think because you (obviously) think well of it that it's distorting the world for you. Dropbox is not as popular as you think and outside of the USA it's useless for many purposes. For instance in Canada and most of Europe, using DropBox for any kind of government job or anything in the education field would violate some fairly serious privacy and data protection laws.
Really? That would come as a surprise to many people in the education field in Canada and Europe. Can you please point me to the source of this gem of information so that I can enlighten my friends and colleagues accordingly before they are arrested?
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Personally, I think it's way over-rated even if you live in the USA and can use it. It seems like every time I see a computer that's crawling like a snail and I have to figure out why, DropBox is turning out to be the culprit lately.
Every time? Funny that we have 200 machines running DropBox on Windows and another 25 running it on Macs here in my vicinity (education field by the way, and constant sharing with government types) and nary a crawler. You just have all the bad luck, don't you? Or perhaps you take a bit of creative license in making your point?
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Originally Posted by pedromartins
Great app, great storage bonus for colleges/universities... It's the best cloud solution for most people.
Great app indeed. But the best? Can you describe your comparison metrics and process? Which alternatives did you try? For how long?
I can't speak for Canadians, but any europeans should be well aware of the risks. If you REALLY want some detailled info on Privacy issues in the EU then please feel free to contact me. I don't really think we want to hijack this thread and get onto data protection/privacy in too much detail. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.
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Originally Posted by ascii
I bet MS tablets will have the full version.
You'll lose that bet. MS Office on Surface RT is pretty much crippled like the pending iOS version. Many of the features of the full Office suite are hard to implement in a touch interface. That may be why Apple's iWork is not fully featured as well. You can do most of the basic things regarding editing with either program.
Somehow thousands of enterprise users are enjoying their iPads without Office, it's turned out to not be the "Killer" app that would hold up the acceptance of Apple iPads in the enterprise market. Strangely enough, the fact that MS Surface requires Windows * may prove to be an entrance barrier to enterprise IT that doesn't want to let Win8 into the house with their Win7 or earlier MS OS.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
If you keep your animations and transitions down to a minimum, and use compatible fonts, you can export your KN file as PPT. Shows up pretty well at the other end.
Even PPT Mac to PPT Win don't open the same many times.
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Originally Posted by Taniwha
I can't speak for Canadians, but any europeans should be well aware of the risks. If you REALLY want some detailled info on Privacy issues in the EU then please feel free to contact me. I don't really think we want to hijack this thread and get onto data protection/privacy in too much detail. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.
There is a difference between respecting privacy and the statement that use of Facebook, etc. in the classroom being banned by law. That's what "full of shit" statement is based on, in part.
Empty fanboy comment, really.
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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky
Even PPT Mac to PPT Win don't open the same many times.
That doesn't happen "many times" anymore.
I think not. Not sure how is Office 365 going to work on iPad, but for Windows desktop users, if you have valid 365 subscription, you are entitled to download and use desktop software... so you are not limited to Internet connectivity. There is (probably) requirement for software to re-activate once a month or something like that. That is much as I remember...
Office RT is free for non-profit (viewing AND editing docs), but corporates are supposed to have one of licensing options to be liable to use it for business. It is a bit more flexible than on iOS, though. Beside having Office 365 subscription, corporate users can unlock Office RT for business use by having Office 2013 VL licenses on their desktops. Since most of business users will have desktop/laptop beside tablet, it is not too bad. As long as businesses don't want to stick with their old Office 2010/2007/2003 licenses.
Beside that, you lose macro/VB support... but rest is pretty much up there.
It goes without saying that MS wants corporates to go for Pro tablets and x86 Windows/Office... but even in RT form, Office is a cut above other tablet options.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
That Ribbon is expensive.
Does it come with cheerleaders?
It is not as bloated as Word. So, it shouldn't be "professional"...
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Eh?
I think the OP was referring to the iOS version of Pages. It cannot edit templates. While I can live with it (the finishing touches to my documents are made on a Mac), I think this is an omission that could be addressed.