Yeah, if I supported a company that exists simply because they stole their OS from another company, I'd get sick of hearing about how completely wrong I was, too.
Oh, wait, no I wouldn't; I'd just support another company.
I don't actively support Android or buy Android based devices. I called your statement nonsense on the basis that development predated the iphone and was aimed at running on virtually anything mobile, including touch screen devices. It's just so silly to call it a stolen product on the basis of one of Apple's board members.
I called your statement nonsense on the basis that development predated the iPhone…
… What? Do you honestly believe that this is the part to which I'm referring? Development timelines?
…and was aimed at running on virtually anything mobile, including touch screen devices.
Specifically phones that looked identical to the BlackBerry lineup… until along came a spider and sat down beside her and frightened the keyboards the way.
…on the basis of one of Apple's board members.
Also on the basis of common sense and not being legally blind.
You (they) don't get to say what "reasonable" is. Either you pay what they want or you don't get to use it. These aren't FRAND-based patents.
Well obviously they weren't because no ones agreed to them yet...
But now HTC has agreed to this lesser number. No, no one gets to 'mandate' a specific rate here, they just get to choose whether or not they'll pay. Whether or not a license is considered 'reasonable' comes down to the market for the license - if no one is willing to license at that price, obviously it's not reasonable.
Even with FRAND based patents no one can mandate a 'reasonable' number, companies are simply penalized if it's proven that they're price-gauging compared to the competition. Hence the recent judgement against Apple vs. Motorola... Apple doesn't want to pay Motorola's rate, but it doesn't matter, because Moto's rate is in line with what Qualcomm and others charge...
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Yeah, if I supported a company that exists simply because they stole their OS from another company, I'd get sick of hearing about how completely wrong I was, too.
Oh, wait, no I wouldn't; I'd just support another company.
I don't actively support Android or buy Android based devices. I called your statement nonsense on the basis that development predated the iphone and was aimed at running on virtually anything mobile, including touch screen devices. It's just so silly to call it a stolen product on the basis of one of Apple's board members.
Fantastic! Wow everyone is in great sprits today! I like it!
Originally Posted by hmm
I called your statement nonsense on the basis that development predated the iPhone…
… What? Do you honestly believe that this is the part to which I'm referring? Development timelines?
…and was aimed at running on virtually anything mobile, including touch screen devices.
Specifically phones that looked identical to the BlackBerry lineup… until along came a spider and sat down beside her and frightened the keyboards the way.
…on the basis of one of Apple's board members.
Also on the basis of common sense and not being legally blind.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
You (they) don't get to say what "reasonable" is. Either you pay what they want or you don't get to use it. These aren't FRAND-based patents.
Well obviously they weren't because no ones agreed to them yet...
But now HTC has agreed to this lesser number. No, no one gets to 'mandate' a specific rate here, they just get to choose whether or not they'll pay. Whether or not a license is considered 'reasonable' comes down to the market for the license - if no one is willing to license at that price, obviously it's not reasonable.
Even with FRAND based patents no one can mandate a 'reasonable' number, companies are simply penalized if it's proven that they're price-gauging compared to the competition. Hence the recent judgement against Apple vs. Motorola... Apple doesn't want to pay Motorola's rate, but it doesn't matter, because Moto's rate is in line with what Qualcomm and others charge...