Windows 8, Surface, and Microsoft's entire, years-late push into mobile has resulted in next to nothing. The whole effort is stillborn, and has been for some time now.
The *real* problem aint Sinofsky. It's Ballmer. And the entire MS board.
I'm getting a lot of ? also when the stories first appear. I'm pretty sure Tallest goes in and fixes them.Likely the difference is between the forum doctype and charset parameters and the home page doctype.
Windows 8, Surface, and Microsoft's entire, years-late push into mobile has resulted in next to nothing. The whole effort is stillborn, and has been for some time now.
The *real* problem aint Sinofsky. It's Ballmer. And the entire MS board.
Windows 8, Surface, and Microsoft's entire, years-late push into mobile has resulted in next to nothing. The whole effort is stillborn, and has been for some time now.
The *real* problem aint Sinofsky. It's Ballmer. And the entire MS board.
Whether or not MS's push into mobile will bear fruit, they have been a money machine for several decades, so no one has eaten their lunch.
It is quite clear that Mr. Ballmer is not missing any meals.
The fact that Microsoft allows a new PC the ability to downgrade to Windows 7 shows a spectacular lack of confidence in their decision to move toward Windows 8.
I think it's for business support. Pro versions have had that for over a decade. I have an old business notebook that had two license codes on its sticker, for XP and Windows 2000, and it included media for both.
Can you imagine trying to run Windows 8 with its active live tiles on a PC even a year old?
I don't think it works well on a computer without touch screen capability.
Well, Forstall is still a Senior Advisor to Tim Cook, whereas Sinofsky left and I don't know if he will still be used as an advisor.
The answer to that question is whether non compet clauses are enforceable for Sinofsky
Here in Cali, once you leave a company they are not enforceable. In the TV industry if we want to keep someone from signing up for another project while we have the character in a coma or whatever we pay them for the missing eps. Cause if they are being paid for the time we can tell them what they can and can't do. Same in other industries, like tech. Forstall's advisor position is a way to keep him on the pay roll but away from new stuff until they reach a point where he knows nothing so there's no real issue with him running to wherever
If any of you watch the Men Who Made American I was thinking that Gates and Ballmer reminded me of Carnegie and Frick. Carnegie was the genius and caring business person and Frick who he hire was the Intimidating business bully, the only difference is Carnegie was smart enough to fire Frick before he lost all of Carnegie money.
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Originally Posted by drblank
I think Gates is afraid of Ballmer. Ballmer can be a little intimidating to someone like Bill. Bill is a little passive and Ballmer is VERY aggressive. Plus, I don't know if Sinofsky has the CEO attitude Microsoft wants.
I guess maybe Bill like Ballmer's Monkee dance routine.
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
So many things make me wonder exactly what it is Ballmer has on Gates ...
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Originally Posted by tribalogical
I actually suspect it was Sinofsky's decision to leave, not an MS initiated 'shake up'.
It was probably triggered by the total train wreck and embarrassment of the "keynote" introducing the Surface, where it was apparent to me it had been rushed out the door unfinished, and probably against Sinofsky's wishes (and he has to take the credit (or blame) for that). Windows 8 is a schizophrenic mess, with most people I talk to saying that Metro is a worthless, confusing layer of distracting and pointless eye-candy… Ballmer's sudden pressure to "consolidate everything" is causing no small amount of problems, I'm sure...
To be honest, I'd guess that it's Ballmer that is "hard to work with"... Not Sinofsky.
Someone else commented that Ballmer probably intimidates Gates, and I can easily imagine some truth to that as well. He's a very aggressive personality. And he can out double-speak ANYONE… who knows what he has that Gates "supports"… but it sure isn't the track record of the past 5 years or so. MS is slowly listing, and given its current trajectory, will be relegated to the irrelevant sidelines within a short couple of years...
Here's wishing both Sinofsky and Forstall all the best. They're both talented individuals who have contributed quite a lot to my modern "computing device" experience. Who knows, maybe they'll form a new company together. That'd be interesting!
Why is this story identified as a "report"? It's a gently massaged rehash of work that came from All Things D. Just like many of the stories here are taken directly from other sources, give some lipstick and slapped on the front page.
Maybe more original reporting could be done here? Surely with the thousands upon thousands of visitors here daily some of them have some "insider" info?
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The competition ate Microsoft's lunch years ago.
It's already too late.
Windows 8, Surface, and Microsoft's entire, years-late push into mobile has resulted in next to nothing. The whole effort is stillborn, and has been for some time now.
The *real* problem aint Sinofsky. It's Ballmer. And the entire MS board.
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Originally Posted by scotty321
And in related news, Sinofsky and Forstall are forming a band.
The Forskys it's called.
lots of pressure at these places
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So many things make me wonder exactly what it is Ballmer has on Gates ...
in or on?
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Not on my system. Everything looks fine. The trouble is on your end my friend.
safari on MBP retina - what can i do?
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I'm getting a lot of ? also when the stories first appear. I'm pretty sure Tallest goes in and fixes them.Likely the difference is between the forum doctype and charset parameters and the home page doctype.
yup they are all gone now
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The Forskys it's called.
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Originally Posted by Quadra 610
The competition ate Microsoft's lunch years ago.
It's already too late.
Windows 8, Surface, and Microsoft's entire, years-late push into mobile has resulted in next to nothing. The whole effort is stillborn, and has been for some time now.
The *real* problem aint Sinofsky. It's Ballmer. And the entire MS board.
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Whether or not MS's push into mobile will bear fruit, they have been a money machine for several decades, so no one has eaten their lunch.
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Dell staff muzzled with customers on certain windows 8 questions, tells you something
It is quite clear that Mr. Ballmer is not missing any meals.
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Originally Posted by pfisher
Scoble of Scobilizer fame is saying his contacts at MS are shocked. He is shocked.
I get the impression that Sinofsky had his act together. This seems kind of sad.
Take Scoble in small doses and with a healthy level of skepticism. He's a bit of a drama queen.
I think it's for business support. Pro versions have had that for over a decade. I have an old business notebook that had two license codes on its sticker, for XP and Windows 2000, and it included media for both.
I don't think it works well on a computer without touch screen capability.
The answer to that question is whether non compet clauses are enforceable for Sinofsky
Here in Cali, once you leave a company they are not enforceable. In the TV industry if we want to keep someone from signing up for another project while we have the character in a coma or whatever we pay them for the missing eps. Cause if they are being paid for the time we can tell them what they can and can't do. Same in other industries, like tech. Forstall's advisor position is a way to keep him on the pay roll but away from new stuff until they reach a point where he knows nothing so there's no real issue with him running to wherever
True, mutual self destruction guaranteed ... LOL
If any of you watch the Men Who Made American I was thinking that Gates and Ballmer reminded me of Carnegie and Frick. Carnegie was the genius and caring business person and Frick who he hire was the Intimidating business bully, the only difference is Carnegie was smart enough to fire Frick before he lost all of Carnegie money.
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Originally Posted by drblank
I think Gates is afraid of Ballmer. Ballmer can be a little intimidating to someone like Bill. Bill is a little passive and Ballmer is VERY aggressive. Plus, I don't know if Sinofsky has the CEO attitude Microsoft wants.
I guess maybe Bill like Ballmer's Monkee dance routine.
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
So many things make me wonder exactly what it is Ballmer has on Gates ...
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Originally Posted by tribalogical
I actually suspect it was Sinofsky's decision to leave, not an MS initiated 'shake up'.
It was probably triggered by the total train wreck and embarrassment of the "keynote" introducing the Surface, where it was apparent to me it had been rushed out the door unfinished, and probably against Sinofsky's wishes (and he has to take the credit (or blame) for that). Windows 8 is a schizophrenic mess, with most people I talk to saying that Metro is a worthless, confusing layer of distracting and pointless eye-candy… Ballmer's sudden pressure to "consolidate everything" is causing no small amount of problems, I'm sure...
To be honest, I'd guess that it's Ballmer that is "hard to work with"... Not Sinofsky.
Someone else commented that Ballmer probably intimidates Gates, and I can easily imagine some truth to that as well. He's a very aggressive personality. And he can out double-speak ANYONE… who knows what he has that Gates "supports"… but it sure isn't the track record of the past 5 years or so. MS is slowly listing, and given its current trajectory, will be relegated to the irrelevant sidelines within a short couple of years...
Here's wishing both Sinofsky and Forstall all the best. They're both talented individuals who have contributed quite a lot to my modern "computing device" experience. Who knows, maybe they'll form a new company together. That'd be interesting!
Why is this story identified as a "report"? It's a gently massaged rehash of work that came from All Things D. Just like many of the stories here are taken directly from other sources, give some lipstick and slapped on the front page.
Maybe more original reporting could be done here? Surely with the thousands upon thousands of visitors here daily some of them have some "insider" info?
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Originally Posted by quinney
It is quite clear that Mr. Ballmer is not missing any meals.
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Originally Posted by mudman2
not sure Ballmer is the one to support
Dell staff muzzled with customers on certain windows 8 questions, tells you something
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It must tell me something, but I have trouble parsing this post...
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Seriously!
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Whether or not MS's push into mobile will bear fruit, they have been a money machine for several decades, so no one has eaten their lunch.
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You can't buy cachet. You can't buy taste.
But you sure as shit can zune your entire strategy.