Quite an original take on the biopic concept, this could be good, or very very bad! We'll see. Also as there is that more conventional biopic of Jobs starring Ashton Kutcher, it would be pointless making another one so soon in the same vein.
The only reason to do this is if he thinks of Jobs as primarily a showman. That's a common misconception.
Nonsense. He's choosing these points because they represent turning points for Jobs, Apple, and perhaps technology.
Want to make a really bad movie? Just do a cradle to grave copy of the book. Like every crappy biopic from the 40's and 50's.
Want to make a great one? Pick the one or two things that really represent the whole. THAT takes artistry and skill.
To see the best current example of this, go to see Spielberg's 'Lincoln', in which Tony Kushner took one month out of the entire Doris Kearns Goodwin book 'Team of Rivals' and made the most riveting and moving picture in memory.
Intriguing. I was hoping Sorkin wouldn't go down a traditional narritive route so I'm encouraged that he's doing something original structurally. Looks like he's focusing on three defining public events in Job's carreer path, each of which have him in a very different emotional (and physical) state. This'll be an incredible role for the lead actor. Much prefer something daring and original over the usual biopic approach, which we'll get with the Kutcher version anyway.
The iPhone launch was the biggest success in the history of the company. Odd they won't include it.
True, the iPhone was a bigger event than the iPod, but this isn't about the products, it's about the person behind the products and Jobs underwent some very very different ways of interacting with people over his time away from Apple and his return to Apple. I think the writer is looking to paint a picture of Jobs from three different angles, much like Pablo Picasso did with many of his paintings, such as the "Weeping Woman."
It's gutsy and he may or may not pull it off. It also requires the viewer to THINK and form some kind of internal view of Jobs instead of being passively fed what the writer wants the viewer to come away with.
This guy sounds like he has a bigger ego than Jobs. He wouldn't write a script for Pixar as requested by Jobs but he will write a film about Jobs. How respectful.
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That's an interesting point.
I wonder if Steve ever declined a request made of him by an admiring associate?
"Hey, Steve,
You build companies. Apple is a great one. Maybe you could collaborate with me and some friends to build a screenplay writing and distribution company. It'd be really cool and fun. And I know you'd do a great job.
What do you say, buddy?
Sincerely,
Aa[aaa]aron Sorkin
</s>
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider
Aaaron Sorkin with Tina Brown at The Hero Summit, via Roger Wildermuth.
If you know Sorkin's "walk and talk" style of writing, the description makes sense. He typically has people walking fast from A to B while rattling off prose at a breakneck pace.
The whole concept sounds DOA, frankly.
The premise for "The Social Network" sounded totally lame to me. And yet, now that I finally watched it I must admit, it was an extremely well done and fascinating film (that wasn't really about FaceBook or a "Social Network" at all.) The skill in telling that story makes me think Sorkin could take the boring sounding premise described in this posting and make another fascinating film (although it may not really illuminate historical truth about Apple and Jobs, just as "The Social Network" may be fascinating, but of unknown historical veracity regarding it's characters.)
Sorkin's a latter-day tragedian, not a documentarian.
I just saw the new Bond movie and enjoyed the powerful music that defines these movies. For a Steve Jobs movie, the sound track from "Anger Management" might be what's needed.
I wonder if Steve ever declined a request made of him by an admiring associate?
"Hey, Steve,
You build companies. Apple is a great one. Maybe you could collaborate with me and some friends to build a screenplay writing and distribution company. It'd be really cool and fun. And I know you'd do a great job.
Very interesting way to handle the story. However, I'm surprised that he isn't making it *FOUR* product intros: It seems to me that the original iMac intro should be included, since that marked the rebirth of Apple under Jobs.
Very interesting way to handle the story. However, I'm surprised that he isn't making it *FOUR* product intros: It seems to me that the original iMac intro should be included, since that marked the rebirth of Apple under Jobs.
Original Mac / NeXT / iMac / iPod
This movie nothing to do with products. It's a character study of a man in three phases of his life.
I was hoping for a treatment more like what he did with The Social Network. I don't see how three (albeit significant) events will portray even half the scope of Walter Isaacson biography. When I heard Sorkin would be writing the screenplay of the Steve Jobs bio, I was psyched. Now, after hearing this, not so much. I'll still watch it though.
Why is it necessary to portray more than half the scope of the Isaacson's biography? That book was flawed (and factually incorrect) on multiple counts. Notwithstanding that, the movie is about the man, not the book.
Nonsense. He's choosing these points because they represent turning points for Jobs, Apple, and perhaps technology.
Want to make a really bad movie? Just do a cradle to grave copy of the book. Like every crappy biopic from the 40's and 50's.
Want to make a great one? Pick the one or two things that really represent the whole. THAT takes artistry and skill.
To see the best current example of this, go to see Spielberg's 'Lincoln', in which Tony Kushner took one month out of the entire Doris Kearns Goodwin book 'Team of Rivals' and made the most riveting and moving picture in memory.
Between doing a cradle to grave biopic and showing real-time sequences of him preparing for 3 different presentations there's a lot of ground. I don't think it should be cradle to grave. I don't think it should be the 30 minutes before going on stage 3 times either. Like I said, that suggests he sees Jobs as a showman. Given that there's a lot of people out there who think Jobs was primarily a showman and a marketer, that's worrying.
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The only reason to do this is if he thinks of Jobs as primarily a showman. That's a common misconception.
That's pretty forked, isn't it?
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Originally Posted by poke
The only reason to do this is if he thinks of Jobs as primarily a showman. That's a common misconception.
Nonsense. He's choosing these points because they represent turning points for Jobs, Apple, and perhaps technology.
Want to make a really bad movie? Just do a cradle to grave copy of the book. Like every crappy biopic from the 40's and 50's.
Want to make a great one? Pick the one or two things that really represent the whole. THAT takes artistry and skill.
To see the best current example of this, go to see Spielberg's 'Lincoln', in which Tony Kushner took one month out of the entire Doris Kearns Goodwin book 'Team of Rivals' and made the most riveting and moving picture in memory.
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Originally Posted by jd_in_sb
The iPhone launch was the biggest success in the history of the company. Odd they won't include it.
True, the iPhone was a bigger event than the iPod, but this isn't about the products, it's about the person behind the products and Jobs underwent some very very different ways of interacting with people over his time away from Apple and his return to Apple. I think the writer is looking to paint a picture of Jobs from three different angles, much like Pablo Picasso did with many of his paintings, such as the "Weeping Woman."
It's gutsy and he may or may not pull it off. It also requires the viewer to THINK and form some kind of internal view of Jobs instead of being passively fed what the writer wants the viewer to come away with.
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Originally Posted by Feynman
This guy sounds like he has a bigger ego than Jobs. He wouldn't write a script for Pixar as requested by Jobs but he will write a film about Jobs. How respectful.
<s>
That's an interesting point.
I wonder if Steve ever declined a request made of him by an admiring associate?
"Hey, Steve,
You build companies. Apple is a great one. Maybe you could collaborate with me and some friends to build a screenplay writing and distribution company. It'd be really cool and fun. And I know you'd do a great job.
What do you say, buddy?
Sincerely,
Aa[aaa]aron Sorkin
</s>
Quote:
Originally Posted by AppleInsider
Aaaron Sorkin with Tina Brown at The Hero Summit, via Roger Wildermuth.
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich
If you know Sorkin's "walk and talk" style of writing, the description makes sense. He typically has people walking fast from A to B while rattling off prose at a breakneck pace.
The whole concept sounds DOA, frankly.
The premise for "The Social Network" sounded totally lame to me. And yet, now that I finally watched it I must admit, it was an extremely well done and fascinating film (that wasn't really about FaceBook or a "Social Network" at all.) The skill in telling that story makes me think Sorkin could take the boring sounding premise described in this posting and make another fascinating film (although it may not really illuminate historical truth about Apple and Jobs, just as "The Social Network" may be fascinating, but of unknown historical veracity regarding it's characters.)
Sorkin's a latter-day tragedian, not a documentarian.
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Originally Posted by pfisher
I was expecting an action thriller a la Bond.
I just saw the new Bond movie and enjoyed the powerful music that defines these movies. For a Steve Jobs movie, the sound track from "Anger Management" might be what's needed.
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Originally Posted by DESuserIGN
<s>
That's an interesting point.
I wonder if Steve ever declined a request made of him by an admiring associate?
"Hey, Steve,
You build companies. Apple is a great one. Maybe you could collaborate with me and some friends to build a screenplay writing and distribution company. It'd be really cool and fun. And I know you'd do a great job.
What do you say, buddy?
Sincerely,
Aa[aaa]aron Sorkin
</s>
Done that. SJ
Sent from my iPhone
Original Mac / NeXT / iMac / iPod
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Originally Posted by BlueDjinn
Very interesting way to handle the story. However, I'm surprised that he isn't making it *FOUR* product intros: It seems to me that the original iMac intro should be included, since that marked the rebirth of Apple under Jobs.
Original Mac / NeXT / iMac / iPod
This movie nothing to do with products. It's a character study of a man in three phases of his life.
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Originally Posted by Rob55
I was hoping for a treatment more like what he did with The Social Network. I don't see how three (albeit significant) events will portray even half the scope of Walter Isaacson biography. When I heard Sorkin would be writing the screenplay of the Steve Jobs bio, I was psyched. Now, after hearing this, not so much. I'll still watch it though.
Why is it necessary to portray more than half the scope of the Isaacson's biography? That book was flawed (and factually incorrect) on multiple counts. Notwithstanding that, the movie is about the man, not the book.
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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky
Done that. SJ
Sent from my iPhone
Don't do that, please. Don't.
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Originally Posted by Conrail
Interesting move. Should be more provocative than a regular bio pic. Character studies (when done right) are fascinating.
If you want his entire life story, read the book.
I dunno. Sounds more like a TV movie than a full-fledged film that's supposed to be a bio. And only 90 minutes?
A play has three main acts, too.
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Originally Posted by GQB
Nonsense. He's choosing these points because they represent turning points for Jobs, Apple, and perhaps technology.
Want to make a really bad movie? Just do a cradle to grave copy of the book. Like every crappy biopic from the 40's and 50's.
Want to make a great one? Pick the one or two things that really represent the whole. THAT takes artistry and skill.
To see the best current example of this, go to see Spielberg's 'Lincoln', in which Tony Kushner took one month out of the entire Doris Kearns Goodwin book 'Team of Rivals' and made the most riveting and moving picture in memory.
Between doing a cradle to grave biopic and showing real-time sequences of him preparing for 3 different presentations there's a lot of ground. I don't think it should be cradle to grave. I don't think it should be the 30 minutes before going on stage 3 times either. Like I said, that suggests he sees Jobs as a showman. Given that there's a lot of people out there who think Jobs was primarily a showman and a marketer, that's worrying.