QuickTime doesn't hate DivX. QuickTime works with DivX codecs fine. What QuickTime hates is when lame-arsed Wintel pirates hack-up the avi shell. QuickTime doesn't support hacks, like DivX in avi. the QuickTime Movie format is designed to accomodate DivX and MP3, which is why .mov DivXs work. Just download the latest offical DivX codec and use DivX validator. It's easy enough, and keeps files playable on PCs so you can share.
Yes, it was a hack but since most DivX is released in .avi and nothing I've heard of will encode DivX into .mov directly, then I'd say it's incompatible with 'divx' by shear volume of divx files. (by directly I mean encode from source ... without an existing DivX file)
As for PC compatibility, I thought that it converted the .avi DivXs into .mov format DivX. Wouldn't that mean that I would need to use QT on PC to play them (QT for windows sorta sucks)? I don't know a whole lot about QT formats new or old, so enlighten me. Even if it doesn't it would be annoying in windows since .mov is usually associated with QT for windows.
Nit-pick: 10BaseT refers to the 10Mb/s Cat5 standard, nothing to do with Wi-Fi/Airport. 802.11b is 11Mb/s, not 10Mb/s as well.
Dude, that really was a nitpick. I said 10baseT as an estimate. Since 802.11b and 10baseT are so close I just say 802.11b has 10baseT speed, though it's technically not correct. Seeing as 10baseT is 10Mb/s it's *about* 802.11b transfer speeds. And since some people still use 10baseT networks that's also giving them a heads-up that streaming could be bad news.
Not many people give a rat's arse about OGG.
Actually a lot of people do since it's closer to .vob than .avi is. It supports multiple audio, and subtitle tracks (this is of most interest to anime groups since there are Jap audio and Eng audio and Eng subs to go with Jap audio, since a lot of the voices in the english versions sound like they used to be the voice for 'Barney the purple dinosaur', but that's another topic). And it doesn't use '.avi hacks by wintel hackers'. Meaning that QT support for .ogm could be good for DivX.
Post DivX 3 files use .mp3, so for most recently encoded files you're fine.
Most recently encoded files? I'll grant you that most DivX doesn't use wma. I only said that as a FYI. Most recent DivX encodes use DivX3. You'd be surprized at the number of DivX files that are recent and using DivX3. XviD seems to be in a 'testing' phase of a lot of places too, with mixed XviD and DivX releases (not one files with mixed codecs, but mixed files ... some releases are DivX and some are XviD). I've even seen some files releases using entirely Open Source codecs (XviD for video, vorbis for audio, and ogm as the container).
<strong>Looks like a couple companies now have DIVX codecs out for OS X (3ivx D4 PR2 for OSX, and the DivX? Video 5.component, etc) , so which should I use?
Also, can someone give me a brief history of .avi and divx please? I dont understand them and all the web sites I have found are too geeked out for me. I just want a simple comparison of the 2 formats please.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If you want to be able to keep sharing files with PC users, use the official (DivX?) codec. The codec includes "DivX Validator" which makes DivX files readable in QuickTime while keeping them in AVI. (Answered pyr3's question here as well).
If you want to be able to keep sharing files with PC users, use the official (DivX?) codec. The codec includes "DivX Validator" which makes DivX files readable in QuickTime while keeping them in AVI. (Answered pyr3's question here as well).
Barto</strong><hr></blockquote>
Does DivX Validator work on VBR audio, though? Last I heard it didn't work too well.
As for downloading DivX players for Windows, in windows DivX works in the system codecs and you can play DivX in Windows Media Player and you can use any video player that uses the system codecs as well to play DivX.
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I think what he was referring to is the fact that Windows does not ship with the necessary codecs to play DivX files - you have to download & install those first, and this can be a bit of a pain (at least it used to be before the Nimo Codec Pack came along). Once you have done this, you can indeed use any Windows movie player to watch your stuff (well, almost, WMPlayer.exe sometimes has some issues finding the video track).
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Yes, it was a hack but since most DivX is released in .avi and nothing I've heard of will encode DivX into .mov directly, then I'd say it's incompatible with 'divx' by shear volume of divx files. (by directly I mean encode from source ... without an existing DivX file)
As for PC compatibility, I thought that it converted the .avi DivXs into .mov format DivX. Wouldn't that mean that I would need to use QT on PC to play them (QT for windows sorta sucks)? I don't know a whole lot about QT formats new or old, so enlighten me.
Nit-pick: 10BaseT refers to the 10Mb/s Cat5 standard, nothing to do with Wi-Fi/Airport. 802.11b is 11Mb/s, not 10Mb/s as well.
Dude, that really was a nitpick. I said 10baseT as an estimate. Since 802.11b and 10baseT are so close I just say 802.11b has 10baseT speed, though it's technically not correct. Seeing as 10baseT is 10Mb/s it's *about* 802.11b transfer speeds. And since some people still use 10baseT networks that's also giving them a heads-up that streaming could be bad news.
Not many people give a rat's arse about OGG.
Actually a lot of people do since it's closer to .vob than .avi is. It supports multiple audio, and subtitle tracks (this is of most interest to anime groups since there are Jap audio and Eng audio and Eng subs to go with Jap audio, since a lot of the voices in the english versions sound like they used to be the voice for 'Barney the purple dinosaur', but that's another topic). And it doesn't use '.avi hacks by wintel hackers'. Meaning that QT support for .ogm could be good for DivX.
Post DivX 3 files use .mp3, so for most recently encoded files you're fine.
Most recently encoded files? I'll grant you that most DivX doesn't use wma. I only said that as a FYI. Most recent DivX encodes use DivX3. You'd be surprized at the number of DivX files that are recent and using DivX3. XviD seems to be in a 'testing' phase of a lot of places too, with mixed XviD and DivX releases (not one files with mixed codecs, but mixed files ... some releases are DivX and some are XviD). I've even seen some files releases using entirely Open Source codecs (XviD for video, vorbis for audio, and ogm as the container).
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<strong>Looks like a couple companies now have DIVX codecs out for OS X (3ivx D4 PR2 for OSX, and the DivX? Video 5.component, etc) , so which should I use?
Also, can someone give me a brief history of .avi and divx please? I dont understand them and all the web sites I have found are too geeked out for me. I just want a simple comparison of the 2 formats please.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If you want to be able to keep sharing files with PC users, use the official (DivX?) codec. The codec includes "DivX Validator" which makes DivX files readable in QuickTime while keeping them in AVI. (Answered pyr3's question here as well).
Barto
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If you want to be able to keep sharing files with PC users, use the official (DivX?) codec. The codec includes "DivX Validator" which makes DivX files readable in QuickTime while keeping them in AVI. (Answered pyr3's question here as well).
Barto</strong><hr></blockquote>
Does DivX Validator work on VBR audio, though? Last I heard it didn't work too well.
Barto
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As for downloading DivX players for Windows, in windows DivX works in the system codecs and you can play DivX in Windows Media Player and you can use any video player that uses the system codecs as well to play DivX.
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I think what he was referring to is the fact that Windows does not ship with the necessary codecs to play DivX files - you have to download & install those first, and this can be a bit of a pain (at least it used to be before the Nimo Codec Pack came along). Once you have done this, you can indeed use any Windows movie player to watch your stuff (well, almost, WMPlayer.exe sometimes has some issues finding the video track).
Bye,
RazzFazz