The desktops do suck, but they don't suck really horribly, like back when we were stuck at 500Mhz.
The desktops need a solid update and a price drop. Apple is really taking king's ransoms on the PowerMacs. Friends that see my MacZone catalogues just can't believe the prices on the Powermacs. They're charging 4 year old prices. Even if they knock off only $100-$200, it would be awesome.
[quote] The desktops need a solid update and a price drop. Apple is really taking king's ransoms on the PowerMacs. Friends that see my MacZone catalogues just can't believe the prices on the Powermacs. They're charging 4 year old prices. Even if they knock off only $100-$200, it would be awesome. <hr></blockquote>
<strong>The desktops do suck, but they don't suck really horribly, like back when we were stuck at 500Mhz.
The desktops need a solid update and a price drop. Apple is really taking king's ransoms on the PowerMacs. Friends that see my MacZone catalogues just can't believe the prices on the Powermacs. They're charging 4 year old prices. Even if they knock off only $100-$200, it would be awesome.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You're absolutely right about that. As long as they lower the price even a little I think it'll be great.
applenut- you still fairly cinfident in your G5 will debut sourced info? Starting to get nervous and need a little reassurance </strong><hr></blockquote>
I know I'm starting to doubt him with the latest info but that's what he said and he's been right in the past so I guess we'll find out.
ok... we are all in agreement that the desktops need a 'big show', yet we say that apple's 4 facet lineup limits this- so that one product doesn't get in the others spotlight. but seriously, what is an imac but a consumer desktop?
apple needs a serious 'showing' in all of its desktops. i predict this is just what will happen at mac world san fran
1. apollo imacs
2. g5 pms
im gunna put my faith in steve, i bet he brings all desktops to 1ghz
although i've been wrong before . . . <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
The decision will be made based on inventory on hand. If they have been successful in clearing the channel of iMacs and Power Macs they could pull the curtain on both lines at MWSF. I don't really see this happening though. If the G5 is nearly ready ship they could announce it in January and wait until Toyko for the iMac, just to clear the channel further. My local CompUSA still has a Flower Power and Sage in stock, their stock of Quicksilvers on the other hand is dwindling.
Christmas sales will determine what products are announced at MWSF.
<strong>i predict this is just what will happen at mac world san fran
1. apollo imacs
2. g5 pms
im gunna put my faith in steve, i bet he brings all desktops to 1ghz
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I personally disagree. I definetly believe the PMs will break 1ghz...and the top o' the line imacs, but the lower end model imacs will probably still be in the mhz. But thats just my opinion. I'm no nostradamus.
<strong>applenut, how come you're doubting him now?</strong><hr></blockquote>
not really doubting him... alright maybe I am, it just seems like there is so much information against a G5 and so much for it... I don't know what to think.
My prediction is still for a G5 and he still says that.
Ever since MWNY, Apple seems to be focusing its introductions/shows on product lines, instead of products themselves. For instance, MWNY focused on desktops: new Quicksilver PowerMacs and new iMacs. Then we saw the portable line bumped all at once in October. From this chain of events, I see it likely that MWSF will be focused on the desktop line only, touting the new G5 and iMac.
Apple's marketing has also begun to merge pro and consumer products. (See the "Too bad you only have one lap." ad, which features both the iBook and PowerBook)
The same could easily be done with a LCD iMac G4 and PowerMac G5 coupled with a catchy marketing phrase.
<strong>The decision will be made based on inventory on hand. If they have been successful in clearing the channel of iMacs and Power Macs they could pull the curtain on both lines at MWSF. I don't really see this happening though. If the G5 is nearly ready ship they could announce it in January and wait until Toyko for the iMac, just to clear the channel further. My local CompUSA still has a Flower Power and Sage in stock, their stock of Quicksilvers on the other hand is dwindling.
Christmas sales will determine what products are announced at MWSF.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Is your CompUSA selling them at full price or what? My local CompUSA is selling Blue Dalmatian, Sage, Ruby, and older Indigo and Snow models at huge discounts.
Is your CompUSA selling them at full price or what? My local CompUSA is selling Blue Dalmatian, Sage, Ruby, and older Indigo and Snow models at huge discounts.</strong><hr></blockquote>
They are discounted but not by anything huge. They even have a original iBook for $1399. If your local store also has plenty of imacs on hand that is just a further indicator of a Tokyo release of the LCD iMac. Steve Jobs would delay them just to spite the analysts who predicted MWSF anyway.
They are discounted but not by anything huge. They even have a original iBook for $1399. If your local store also has plenty of imacs on hand that is just a further indicator of a Tokyo release of the LCD iMac. Steve Jobs would delay them just to spite the analysts who predicted MWSF anyway.
I tend to agree with G5s at MWSF and the new iMac at MWTY. Also, the portables should get updated at MWTY. Maybe PBG4 at MWTY and then iBook in the spring. Still a chance both the G5 and new iMac get introduced at MWSF.
<strong>I tend to agree with G5s at MWSF and the new iMac at MWTY. Also, the portables should get updated at MWTY. Maybe PBG4 at MWTY and then iBook in the spring. Still a chance both the G5 and new iMac get introduced at MWSF.</strong><hr></blockquote>
So TD, honestly, is your source really in a position to actually and truthfully have inside info? I want to believe you and I know you can't say too much, but can you reassure me of his/her can be cedible? Believing a friend is one thing, knowing someone who has real hard factual evidence is another. I want to believe you and applenut and I really want a G5
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The desktops need a solid update and a price drop. Apple is really taking king's ransoms on the PowerMacs. Friends that see my MacZone catalogues just can't believe the prices on the Powermacs. They're charging 4 year old prices.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
<strong>The desktops do suck, but they don't suck really horribly, like back when we were stuck at 500Mhz.
The desktops need a solid update and a price drop. Apple is really taking king's ransoms on the PowerMacs. Friends that see my MacZone catalogues just can't believe the prices on the Powermacs. They're charging 4 year old prices.
You're absolutely right about that. As long as they lower the price even a little I think it'll be great.
<strong>Harm of a huge show? LOL Apple needs a huge show because right now to put it bluntly, their computers suck.</strong><hr></blockquote>
correction: their desktops suck.
their portables rock
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correction: their desktops suck.
their portables rock</strong><hr></blockquote>
applenut- you still fairly cinfident in your G5 will debut sourced info? Starting to get nervous and need a little reassurance
I wouldn't say the portables rock, but they definitely don't suck (in terms of specs).
Maybe I should've asked someone at CompUSA today about the G5s.....lol
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applenut- you still fairly cinfident in your G5 will debut sourced info? Starting to get nervous and need a little reassurance
I know I'm starting to doubt him with the latest info but that's what he said and he's been right in the past so I guess we'll find out.
apple needs a serious 'showing' in all of its desktops. i predict this is just what will happen at mac world san fran
1. apollo imacs
2. g5 pms
im gunna put my faith in steve, i bet he brings all desktops to 1ghz
although i've been wrong before . . . <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
Christmas sales will determine what products are announced at MWSF.
<strong>i predict this is just what will happen at mac world san fran
1. apollo imacs
2. g5 pms
im gunna put my faith in steve, i bet he brings all desktops to 1ghz
</strong><hr></blockquote>
I personally disagree. I definetly believe the PMs will break 1ghz...and the top o' the line imacs, but the lower end model imacs will probably still be in the mhz. But thats just my opinion. I'm no nostradamus.
<strong>applenut, how come you're doubting him now?</strong><hr></blockquote>
not really doubting him... alright maybe I am, it just seems like there is so much information against a G5 and so much for it... I don't know what to think.
My prediction is still for a G5 and he still says that.
Apple's marketing has also begun to merge pro and consumer products. (See the "Too bad you only have one lap." ad, which features both the iBook and PowerBook)
The same could easily be done with a LCD iMac G4 and PowerMac G5 coupled with a catchy marketing phrase.
<strong>The decision will be made based on inventory on hand. If they have been successful in clearing the channel of iMacs and Power Macs they could pull the curtain on both lines at MWSF. I don't really see this happening though. If the G5 is nearly ready ship they could announce it in January and wait until Toyko for the iMac, just to clear the channel further. My local CompUSA still has a Flower Power and Sage in stock, their stock of Quicksilvers on the other hand is dwindling.
Christmas sales will determine what products are announced at MWSF.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Is your CompUSA selling them at full price or what? My local CompUSA is selling Blue Dalmatian, Sage, Ruby, and older Indigo and Snow models at huge discounts.
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Is your CompUSA selling them at full price or what? My local CompUSA is selling Blue Dalmatian, Sage, Ruby, and older Indigo and Snow models at huge discounts.</strong><hr></blockquote>
They are discounted but not by anything huge. They even have a original iBook for $1399. If your local store also has plenty of imacs on hand that is just a further indicator of a Tokyo release of the LCD iMac. Steve Jobs would delay them just to spite the analysts who predicted MWSF anyway.
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They are discounted but not by anything huge. They even have a original iBook for $1399. If your local store also has plenty of imacs on hand that is just a further indicator of a Tokyo release of the LCD iMac. Steve Jobs would delay them just to spite the analysts who predicted MWSF anyway.
[ 12-09-2001: Message edited by: Aphelion ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Then G5's in Jan and iMacs in Tokyo!!
<strong>I tend to agree with G5s at MWSF and the new iMac at MWTY. Also, the portables should get updated at MWTY. Maybe PBG4 at MWTY and then iBook in the spring. Still a chance both the G5 and new iMac get introduced at MWSF.</strong><hr></blockquote>
So TD, honestly, is your source really in a position to actually and truthfully have inside info? I want to believe you and I know you can't say too much, but can you reassure me of his/her can be cedible? Believing a friend is one thing, knowing someone who has real hard factual evidence is another. I want to believe you and applenut and I really want a G5