Rumor: Apple planning low-cost iPhone with larger display for late 2013

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  • Reply 41 of 82
    pfisherpfisher Posts: 758member

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    Originally Posted by AZREOSpecialist View Post


    The number of people who think Apple should just maintain its status quo is large and hilarious.


     


    Apple has to compete against the likes of Samsung whether it wants to or not. A client handed me a Galaxy S3 a few days ago and I have to say, that large screen is extremely attractive and makes my iPhone look like a Fisher Price toy. There is a reason why customers like the larger screen. It would serve Apple well to differentiate its products or at least move the product line more towards what consumers are demanding.





    Totally agree. While I don't care for the cheap feel of the Samsung, I do like the screen. It's hard to do anything on my iPhone 4S. And the iPhone 5 ain't all that better. Really.


     


    Just make another larger phone, Apple.


     


    I'm sure they will.

  • Reply 42 of 82
    mj1970mj1970 Posts: 9,002member

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    Originally Posted by Michael Scrip View Post



    But I'm asking why they need to.


     


    I understand. Perhaps because there is an enormous profit opportunity in these emerging markets that is not accessible with their current products.


     


     


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    Originally Posted by Michael Scrip View Post



    Samsung makes dozens of phones ranging from $100 low-end to $700 high-end.... while Apple makes basically 3 phones from $450 mid-range to $900 high-end high-capacity.

    Those are very two different philosophies.


     


    Understood and agreed. But again it need not be a full fleshing out like Samsung (et al) does. But think about the iPod line as the model. I have no idea how Apple might achieve this with the phone. But I think it is fair to say that Apple expanded the iPod line with different price-points for different needs without resorting to the dozens of products between two price points. I suspect, if they can, Apple would follow a similar path for the phone.


     


     


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    Originally Posted by Michael Scrip View Post



    And Apple is more profitable as a result... while Samsung wears the crown of sales numbers and/or market share.

    Apple's (and any company's) goal is to maximize profit... not volume. I can't imagine a situation where someone says to Tim Cook "uh boss... we're not selling enough phones..."


     


    I agree and haven't claimed otherwise. But I suspect they are looking at what the profit opportunities are in emerging markets and at lower price points.


     


    Not sure why this is so terribly controversial. It's almost like some people's identity is threatened if Apple sells a less expensive product to more people.

  • Reply 43 of 82
    I would love to see Apple to develop a more cheaper iPhone, but they have not yet do it for their computers, the only cheaper option is the mac-mini which is just a computer without monitor and keyboard. I doubt that they will make a cheap alternative for iPhone. Apple does not like to be cheap. I maybe wrong but who knows. Maybe Tim Cook think different than Steve Jobs.
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    Originally Posted by maclancer View Post

    …they have not yet do it for their computers, the only cheaper option is the mac-mini which is just a computer without monitor and keyboard.


     


    What do you expect? What else could it possibly be?

  • Reply 45 of 82
    mj1970mj1970 Posts: 9,002member

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    Originally Posted by maclancer View Post



    I would love to see Apple to develop a more cheaper iPhone, but they have not yet do it for their computers, the only cheaper option is the mac-mini which is just a computer without monitor and keyboard. I doubt that they will make a cheap alternative for iPhone. Apple does not like to be cheap. I maybe wrong but who knows. Maybe Tim Cook think different than Steve Jobs.


     


    But they have done it with the iPod. It's not like this is an unprecedented thing. This whole "Apple doesn't do cheap" or "Apple is premium" seems a bit specious.

  • Reply 46 of 82
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 6,883member

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    Originally Posted by allenbf View Post


    Question, though:


     


    We're focusing on hardware here.  But many people would argue that the Android OS has caught up with iOS as of Jelly Bean.  I've seen it - I love Apple, but Android 4.x is the smoothest I've seen of Android so far.  Google Now is a decent enough answer to Siri.  And in a creepy way, it is even a bit more advanced than Siri.


     


    So while we're talking about hardware, what about OS?  If Google/Android win on the OS war, will hardware ultimately matter?  Most of us here are probably Apple fans, I am.  But I am concerned that the Android OS will outpace iOS in the future, at some point.  Really hoping Ive has a few tricks up his sleeve!



     


    Yes, we can see you are concerned. Nice attempt and pretty funny stuff. I assume when you say, "Google Now is a decent enough answer to Siri. And in a creepy way, it is even a bit more advanced than Siri," you are referring to the, "... he now praises the iPad," feature?

  • Reply 47 of 82
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member

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    Originally Posted by MJ1970 View Post


     


    But they have done it with the iPod. It's not like this is an unprecedented thing. This whole "Apple doesn't do cheap" or "Apple is premium" seems a bit specious.



    Apple doesn't do cheap as in 'cheapening its product', but Apple may offer its new phone at a lower price. If Apple does do that, great! If Apple's next iPhone has a larger screen - all technicalities why this will never happen, aside - it will sell like crazy. The iPhone 5 already does and it is awesome but who here would not like an iPhone with a larger screen (say the iPhone 5 height with the iPhone 4 aspect ratio)? I know I would love it.

  • Reply 48 of 82
    cnocbui wrote: »
    Apple and Samsung have different strategies, and they both seem to work.

    Agreed. This point is key.
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    Originally Posted by cnocbui View Post

    Apple and Samsung have different strategies, and they both seem to work.


     


    Theft with government backing usually does. So does innovation.

  • Reply 50 of 82
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    I didn't want to let everyone in on it, but the rumors are getting out of control.

    Consider that Apple has a shortage of some products. The analysts say that this is due to supply chain problems rather than massive demand.

    Consider also that a supply chain becomes more efficient when you reduce the number of products.

    Finally, consider the analysts' demand for Apple to get into lower priced products.

    Therefore, it should be obvious that Apple has only one way to meet the analysts' expectations. Apple is going to merge all their product lines. They will produce an Apple TV (55" or so) that can also be used as a portable phone and tablet. It will have a dozen ARM processors so that its performance is great enough for it to replace the iMac, as well. There will be only one configuration. And it will be sold inexpensively enough that even third world countries. So expect a 55" Apple TV/iPhone/iPad/iMac to be released later this year for $5.99 plus shipping and handling. And if you buy before midnight tonight, they'll double your order. You just pay shipping and handling for the second unit.

    There. That should make all the analysts happy.
  • Reply 51 of 82
    alanskyalansky Posts: 235member
    Apple is competing against the likes of Samsung very nicely, thank you very much; and they most certainly do NOT need to follow their competitors' pathetic attempts at "innovation" in order to maintain a competitive edge going forward.
  • Reply 52 of 82
    allenbfallenbf Posts: 993member

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    Originally Posted by anonymouse View Post


     


    Yes, we can see you are concerned. Nice attempt and pretty funny stuff. I assume when you say, "Google Now is a decent enough answer to Siri. And in a creepy way, it is even a bit more advanced than Siri," you are referring to the, "... he now praises the iPad," feature?



     


    I'm not trolling if that's your point.  You're welcome to look at my post history, I'm far from an Android troll or fanboy.  My concerns are legit.


     


    And yeah, that was a pretty funny feature on the iPad image


     


    No, my point - Google Now is pretty neat, but Google scares the hell out of me sometimes.  I hope eventually Siri will be answering questions before I think to ask them.  I am just saying that I hope Ive & Co have some new features in iOS 7.

  • Reply 53 of 82
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
    Why, when iDevices remain the thing that everyone buys in the first world? To affluence from poverty, they'll go the way of the already-rich.
    Because the iPhone is not a Cadillac.
  • Reply 54 of 82
    gordygordy Posts: 1,004member


    So, wouldn't the "low cost" phone shipping in late 2013 be the current iPhone 5?  Isn't that the current trend?  There is no new phone for "emerging markets,"  just the old phone being shipped to new markets.

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    Originally Posted by Mac_128 View Post

    Because the iPhone is not a Cadillac.


     


    Is this supposed to refute something I've said?

  • Reply 56 of 82
    sockrolidsockrolid Posts: 2,789member


    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post



    This report is just full of all kinds of ridiculous.


     


    Yup.  DigiTimes brings to mind the old "infinite monkey theorem."  Except that instead of ending up typing the complete works of William Shakespeare, the infinitely-typing monkey will end up typing one or more Apple rumors that turns out to be true.


     


    Maybe DigiTimes needs more monkeys and typewriters.  Just a thought.

  • Reply 57 of 82
    iPad Nano. Or iPod Pro.

    Make it a 5-6" screen and keep the aspect ratio/resolution of the iPhone 5. This way developers don't need to modify Apps for a new resolution.

    Then make the same one with a cellular option. You don't have to call it an iPhone, but that's what it would basically be - a large screen iPhone.

    By not calling it an iPhone they are essentially keeping to their word that people don't want "Hummers" for phones, but they still have something for those customers who do want it.

    And the non-cellular version would be a great platform for a portable gaming system.

    Apple sells another tablet at an even smaller size, they have a portable gaming system and a "phone" to take on the Note and others.

    Apple has conquered the full size and mini tablet market, now they can create (and dominate) another market.
  • Reply 58 of 82
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    The number of people who think Apple should just maintain its status quo is large and hilarious.

    Apple has to compete against the likes of Samsung whether it wants to or not. A client handed me a Galaxy S3 a few days ago and I have to say, that large screen is extremely attractive and makes my iPhone look like a Fisher Price toy. There is a reason why customers like the larger screen. It would serve Apple well to differentiate its products or at least move the product line more towards what consumers are demanding.
    The plastic S3 makes the iPhone 5 look like a toy? Ok now I've heard it all. :lol:
  • Reply 59 of 82
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member


    How is the LTE iPad mini not a bigger screened iPhone? As the screen enlarges the device becomes something  very much other than a voice handset, so why bother with a voice contract the device isn't suited for? Hence the cellular LTE iPad mini: bigger screened "iPhone" (meaning not tethered to the need for a WiFi signal nearby).


     


    The mini is light enough and once you've given up "pocketable" why not just go all in for functional? Plus it's cheaper overall than some phone with a contract.

  • Reply 60 of 82
    Rumor: AppleInsider rehashes DigiTimes rumors for click bait. Spray and ch-ching! Ad revenue, site engagement go up, facts and real information not required.
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