Firefox 18 launches with support for Retina display Macs

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  • Reply 21 of 37
    auxioauxio Posts: 2,794member

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    Forgive my lack of understanding but what and how exactly does google track your browsing behaviour? I have turned off search history and use ghostery which often blocks google analytics on a page. How much further down the rabbit hole does this insanity go?


     


    As TBell mentioned earlier, Chrome seems to call home every 5 minutes.  And, as everyone knows, Google makes it's money off advertising and analytics, so anything they're giving away for free likely has some way to harvest data and/or stream advertisements to you.  I'm not sure exactly what data Chrome is sending when it calls home, but I don't really want to have to jump through hoops to find out and/or try to stop it.

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  • Reply 22 of 37
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member


    The only browser that puts you first? It's nearly as bad as Chrome for stability and memory consumption.


     


    On Linux it's an absolutely turd for freeing memory, just like Chrome. I'll put the blame on Linux's memory model.

     

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  • Reply 23 of 37

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    "Giving a glass of ice water to someone in Hell."



     


    The funniest part of that quote is that Jobs was talking about iTunes, which is pretty much the crappiest piece of software you can run on a Windows PC.

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  • Reply 24 of 37

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    The funniest part of that quote is that Jobs was talking about iTunes, which is pretty much the crappiest piece of software you can run on a Windows PC.



    besides windows itself. And IE. and recent games with the "must be online" shit. and office, that bloated piece of shit. Adobe, too. I'm I missing something?

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  • Reply 25 of 37

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    besides windows itself. And IE. and recent games with the "must be online" shit. and office, that bloated piece of shit. Adobe, too. I'm I missing something?



     






    Not sure how long before you used office, but currently it is pretty good (2010). Not much bloat, pretty snappy, etc.

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  • Reply 26 of 37

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    As much a niche as I agree Firefox will be, I am just freaking dumbfounded that Apple has stopped Safari for Windows. I don't get it.



     


    This has me very disappointed. I like how Safari for Windows renders fonts.


     


    Firefox at version 18 is also ridiculous. Every couple of months they go to a major version upgrade. They really need to sit down and rethink that strategy.

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  • Reply 27 of 37
    pik80pik80 Posts: 148member
    Firefox is the best browser since it has the best support for tagging bookmarks.
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    Originally Posted by pik80 View Post

    Firefox is the best browser since it has the best support for tagging bookmarks.


     


    I had to look up what that was… How's it different from setting a name with tags, like in Safari? Just because it's a separate field?

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  • Reply 29 of 37
    bigmikebigmike Posts: 266member
    Now if websites can get on the ball and update images for retina displays then it would be good...
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  • Reply 30 of 37


    Originally Posted by bigmike View Post

    Now if websites can get on the ball and update images for retina displays then it would be good...


     


    Like they're ever going to do that… If all PCs on the planet were ISOTed away instantaneously and replaced with Macs to the same ratio as the existing Mac population, you'd get retina images on websites in another ten years. Bunch of lazy bums. 


     


    I mean, some places don't even have their own little URL icons yet! That's why we need one browser. One web. One feature-set.

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  • Reply 31 of 37
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member

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    Don't say Chrome. image



     


    Why not? I started using it on an old (plastic) Macbook and I was pleasantly surprised to see how much faster it is compared to Safari and Firefox. It gave new breath to this old machine.

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  • Reply 32 of 37
    pbpb Posts: 4,255member

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    If you don't care about Google tracking you (which, again, most Windows users I've spoken with really don't care about), then yeah, Chrome.



    What tracking are you talking about?

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  • Reply 33 of 37
    vorsosvorsos Posts: 302member


    Tallest Skil View Post

    Like they're ever going to do that… If all PCs on the planet were ISOTed away instantaneously and replaced with Macs to the same ratio as the existing Mac population, you'd get retina images on websites in another ten years. Bunch of lazy bums. 


    I mean, some places don't even have their own little URL icons yet! That's why we need one browser. One web. One feature-set.



     


    Having one browser/web/feature set would halt organic growth and competitive development of all web technologies, from backends to browsers. The last time we had something resembling the One-BWFS was during IE dominance, and we're still undoing the damage from that stagnant standards-free period.


     


    If your gripe boils down to the current state of browser-specific CSS tags, remember that those are for currently developing standards.


     


    Sites have the freedom to choose what they develop, with retina support being just one of many items on the table. Having One-BWFS won't prod them any faster.

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  • Reply 34 of 37


    Originally Posted by Vorsos View Post

    Having one browser/web/feature set would halt organic growth and competitive development of all web technologies, from backends to browsers.


     


    But why?


     



    IE dominance, and we're still undoing the damage from that stagnant standards-free… 


     


    Yeah, that was the problem. But it's not the case anymore. Whereas now you'll have Chrome forcing Firefox not to adopt MP4, and then also creating its own magical format that no one wants to use: WebM. 


     


    With one browser, you just… adopt standards. Period. Everything adoptable is in one place, and website creators can implement it at their leisure (better do it before your competitors), whereas now they drag their frigging feet because "not all browsers support this awesome new thing", so they don't want to inconvenience the 0.3% on such and such browser.


     



    Sites have the freedom to choose what they develop…



     


    Including ignoring standards. 

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  • Reply 35 of 37
    vorsosvorsos Posts: 302member


    If one company maintains The One Browser, and they decide on a magical-yet-inferior something or other, web devs and consumers have nowhere else to go. And which company can we trust to maintain this? Which browser currently pleases everyone, and is guaranteed to always work towards the moving target of 100% standards compliance?


     


    In the long run, it's always better to have options. Non-competitive product categories rarely improve. The browser market may be chaotic in some areas, but is mostly moving towards the same goal set by the W3C, and continued cross-collaboration is vital. Every browser has come up with some new advancement that was eventually added to W3C standards.

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  • Reply 36 of 37


    Originally Posted by Vorsos View Post

    If one company maintains The One Browser, and they decide on a magical-yet-inferior something or other, web devs and consumers have nowhere else to go. And which company can we trust to maintain this? Which browser currently pleases everyone, and is guaranteed to always work towards the moving target of 100% standards compliance?


     


    In the long run, it's always better to have options. Non-competitive product categories rarely improve. The browser market may be chaotic in some areas, but is mostly moving towards the same goal set by the W3C, and continued cross-collaboration is vital. Every browser has come up with some new advancement that was eventually added to W3C standards.



     


    Oh, it certainly wouldn't be one company; it'd be a consortium. Companies from across the industry would submit their ideas for addition to the standard, jus tike now.

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  • Reply 37 of 37
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    chep wrote: »
    do xerox printers work with macbook retina pro?  is there a driver? does someone have an answer?
    A thread about Firefox 18 is not the proper place for this question nor are there printer drivers for specific Mac models. It has to do with the operating system. Go to the company's website, put in the printer model, and see if they have a Mac OS X printer.
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