It hasn't yet. How long has AMZ been in the game. What's it's share compared to iTunes.
that's fine but but it's worth checking out sales before just blindly buying from iTunes. The worse thing you can do is pay the same on AMZ as with iTunes.
Ah, ok. Well, that is actually quite nice, I like that. I still buy -old school- CD's and rip them myself, but with the ever disappearing B&M stores Amazon seems to do a good job by offering this.
...when you order your CD you instantly get the music too...
Was does this mean?
It means when you order a physical CD, they will ship it to you but will also allow you to download the digital tracks from their MP3 store at the same time. If as an example you bought the latest Dave Matthews Band CD, they would send you the physical copy but while that copy is on the way, you will be allowed to download the digital tracks and play them on all of your devices, even through a web browser.
When the physical media arrives, you can do what you want with it. Put it on the shelf, save it for your collection, open and rerip the tracks in whatever format you want, etc. However the point is you don't have to choose one over the other and it saves you the work.
but you'll miss out on the Apple eco system, you know, buy on iPhone, see it pop up on iPad and all that.
Not really. You buy on Amazon and you can stream the music to any device, iOS, Android, PC, Mac etc.
It doesn't even take up space. Just like iCloud but supporting more devices.
I am a self confessed Apple fanboy but I rarely buy from iTunes because the pricing is too high.
Hmm, I buy CD's and I presume they are more expensive than digital downloads. Well, TEHO.
Thank you. I must say, as good as this service seems, the experience with Amazon on my iPad right now is quite disappointing. The text I can read, obviously, but there's a How We Do It video, alas, in Flash. Then I thought let me preview a track, works, but when I tapped on the Play button my screen went black instantly. I thought my iPad crashed. Phew...
PS: this reply box on AI mobile website remains 5 lines high, which makes for a piss-poor experience and difficult to edit out unwanted text. Totally OT but still wanted to get it off my chest.
Apple just tries to lock you in and hope you can't find a way to leave. They've become too insular. People are using their own successful strategies against them while they are adopting a Microsoft model. (Our way or no way)
People willing to go to a little extra trouble can use non-Apple media on Apple devices. The most important thing for Apple is just that everything is available to their customers. They want media to never be a reason not to buy an Apple device. The actual media revenues don't matter -- Apple breaks even on the iTunes store. They make their money on hardware.
- Cross platform (i.e. doesn't lock you into iTunes)
This makes no sense. Any music bought from iTunes within the past four years can be played on almost any computer/tablet/smartphone. Steve Jobs was almost single-handedly responsible for pressuring the labels into dropping DRM from downloaded music purchases. Ironically, that's the reason Amazon can be "cross platform".
Next time, maybe do some research so you don't make yourself look foolish.
Thank you. I must say, as good as this service seems, the experience with Amazon on my iPad right now is quite disappointing. The text I can read, obviously, but there's a How We Do It video, alas, in Flash. Then I thought let me preview a track, works, but when I tapped on the Play button my screen went black instantly. I thought my iPad crashed. Phew...
And no AirPlay in their Instant Video/Amazon Prime iPad app. And no iPad version of their Cloud Player (though, given the UX of their web-based Cloud player, this may be a blessing in disguise). The list of half-measures from Amazon goes on and on and on...
This makes no sense. Any music bought from iTunes within the past four years can be played on almost any computer/tablet/smartphone. Steve Jobs was almost single-handedly responsible for pressuring the labels into dropping DRM from downloaded music purchases. Ironically, that's the reason Amazon can be "cross platform".
Next time, maybe do some research so you don't make yourself look foolish.
So.. when I click Buy on my Amazon music, I can then open a web browser and instantly play my music on anything.
- Linux
- iPad
- Windows
- You name it
When I click Buy in iTunes, how much headache is it to play on say in Linux. Or on my Symbian phone (don't have one, never had... example only). Or BEOS. Etc. MP3 is the defacto standard when it comes to music files.
So.. when I click Buy on my Amazon music, I can then open a web browser and instantly play my music on anything.
- Linux
- iPad
- Windows
- You name it
When I click Buy in iTunes, how much headache is it to play on say in Linux. Or on my Symbian phone (don't have one, never had... example only). Or BEOS. Etc. MP3 is the defacto standard when it comes to music files.
I'm not talking DRM. Never mentioned it once.
1) You didn't say it was less convenient to use iTunes Store over Amazon for digital music you said "doesn't lock you into iTunes" which could only happen if you were talking about DRMed content which as previously noted there isn't any.
2) If you're using Linux, BeOS and Symbian as your everyday personal OSes then you're probably a hater of Apple and certainly not someone who would consider buying from Apple. This post of yours is just backpedaling from your previous comment that buying music from iTS locks you into iTunes.
So.. when I click Buy on my Amazon music, I can then open a web browser and instantly play my music on anything.
- Linux
- iPad
- Windows
- You name it
When I click Buy in iTunes, how much headache is it to play on say in Linux. Or on my Symbian phone (don't have one, never had... example only). Or BEOS. Etc. MP3 is the defacto standard when it comes to music files.
I'm not talking DRM. Never mentioned it once.
You didn't say it, but it's the same as outdated talking point against iTunes DRM, it made the most sense for your comment. AAC has been around for a decade, and it is anything but an iTunes-only codec. Android supports it. Windows supports it. Any Linux audio program that doesn't play AAC is probably in maintenance mode and not active development. I found an AAC plug-in for PalmOS. Palm's WebOS plays AAC. There is Symbian software that plays it.
Apple's problem is that IOS users can buy from the Amazon Store, but Android users can't buy from iTunes. I can see this hurting the iTunes market share in a big way. Apple doesn't dominate the smart phone market the way that they dominated MP3 players.
You're just being coy. I'm sure what was meant was that Android devices can't be used to buy from iTunes. The user could, if they wanted to go to their computer, buy from iTunes and load the track into the Android device. At which point, it's a little silly if they can just use the device directly from some other service.
I don't think it's a huge problem though. Even if Apple eventually isn't the #1 player in music downloads, they'll still be a more than viable player in that market.
You're just being coy. I'm sure what was meant was that Android devices can't be used to buy from iTunes. The user could, if they wanted to go to their computer, buy from iTunes and load the track into the Android device. At which point, it's a little silly if they can just use the device directly from some other service.
I don't think it's a huge problem though. Even if Apple eventually isn't the #1 player in music downloads, they'll still be a more than viable player in that market.
That's a huge distinction that the OP should have made clear in their comment.
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;">Record labels now have little to no reason to stick with itunes.</span>
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;">By signing up with Amazon, they will have access to both iOS users and Android users.</span>
It amazes me just how off your comments are from any reality. At first I just thought you were just trolling but I now I actually think you believe the crap you write, which is really worse in so many ways. Amazon MP3 has been out for so where is this migration away from iTunes that you have implied would happen from this "little to no reason to stick with iTunes" argument you're trying to sell?
It amazes me just how off your comments are from any reality. At first I just thought you were just trolling but I now I actually think you believe the crap you write, which is really worse in so many ways. Amazon MP3 has been out for so where is this migration away from iTunes that you have implied would happen from this "little to no reason to stick with iTunes" argument you're trying to sell?
Oh boo hoo.
Pot calling the kettle black.
Solip has a belief that the color of an ipad is the basis of people's car buying decision.
BMW designer says Apple made white the most popular color for car buyers
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Consider the mindshare Apple must have when an inexpensive consumer electronic is the foundation for a purchase that cost several 10s of thousands of dollars. Crazy!
That's a huge distinction that the OP should have made clear in their comment.
I suppose, but I would have thought the context of this discussion was clear enough. To say it's possible for an Android user to buy an iTunes track is technically true, but it's silly to assume that anyone would bother to buy new iTunes tracks after they've bought an Android when other services offer on-device purchases that appear to be far more convenient.
You didn't say it, but it's the same as outdated talking point against iTunes DRM, it made the most sense for your comment. AAC has been around for a decade, and it is anything but an iTunes-only codec. Android supports it. Windows supports it. Any Linux audio program that doesn't play AAC is probably in maintenance mode and not active development. I found an AAC plug-in for PalmOS. Palm's WebOS plays AAC. There is Symbian software that plays it.
Maybe, but I don't think it's very hard to understand what was intended. I think the most likely reasons to not understand what was meant is being a dunce or playing coy.
Comments
I do compare.
The sale Amazon has right now seems pretty good.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
ArsTechnica has a comparison article on the the three big music cloud services: iTunes Match, Google Music and Amazon Cloud Player.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/01/throwdown-itunes-match-vs-amazon-cloud-player-vs-google-music/
All three have their unique advantages.
Their conclusion was: Unless you're not an iOS user, iTunes Match is simply the way to go.
Ah, ok. Well, that is actually quite nice, I like that. I still buy -old school- CD's and rip them myself, but with the ever disappearing B&M stores Amazon seems to do a good job by offering this.
Hmm, I buy CD's and I presume they are more expensive than digital downloads. Well, TEHO.
Thank you. I must say, as good as this service seems, the experience with Amazon on my iPad right now is quite disappointing. The text I can read, obviously, but there's a How We Do It video, alas, in Flash. Then I thought let me preview a track, works, but when I tapped on the Play button my screen went black instantly. I thought my iPad crashed. Phew...
PS: this reply box on AI mobile website remains 5 lines high, which makes for a piss-poor experience and difficult to edit out unwanted text. Totally OT but still wanted to get it off my chest.
People willing to go to a little extra trouble can use non-Apple media on Apple devices. The most important thing for Apple is just that everything is available to their customers. They want media to never be a reason not to buy an Apple device. The actual media revenues don't matter -- Apple breaks even on the iTunes store. They make their money on hardware.
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Originally Posted by realwarder
Agreed. Amazon is:
- Cross platform (i.e. doesn't lock you into iTunes)
This makes no sense. Any music bought from iTunes within the past four years can be played on almost any computer/tablet/smartphone. Steve Jobs was almost single-handedly responsible for pressuring the labels into dropping DRM from downloaded music purchases. Ironically, that's the reason Amazon can be "cross platform".
Next time, maybe do some research so you don't make yourself look foolish.
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilBoogie
Thank you. I must say, as good as this service seems, the experience with Amazon on my iPad right now is quite disappointing. The text I can read, obviously, but there's a How We Do It video, alas, in Flash. Then I thought let me preview a track, works, but when I tapped on the Play button my screen went black instantly. I thought my iPad crashed. Phew...
And no AirPlay in their Instant Video/Amazon Prime iPad app. And no iPad version of their Cloud Player (though, given the UX of their web-based Cloud player, this may be a blessing in disguise). The list of half-measures from Amazon goes on and on and on...
So.. when I click Buy on my Amazon music, I can then open a web browser and instantly play my music on anything.
- Linux
- iPad
- Windows
- You name it
When I click Buy in iTunes, how much headache is it to play on say in Linux. Or on my Symbian phone (don't have one, never had... example only). Or BEOS. Etc. MP3 is the defacto standard when it comes to music files.
I'm not talking DRM. Never mentioned it once.
1) You didn't say it was less convenient to use iTunes Store over Amazon for digital music you said "doesn't lock you into iTunes" which could only happen if you were talking about DRMed content which as previously noted there isn't any.
2) If you're using Linux, BeOS and Symbian as your everyday personal OSes then you're probably a hater of Apple and certainly not someone who would consider buying from Apple. This post of yours is just backpedaling from your previous comment that buying music from iTS locks you into iTunes.
You didn't say it, but it's the same as outdated talking point against iTunes DRM, it made the most sense for your comment. AAC has been around for a decade, and it is anything but an iTunes-only codec. Android supports it. Windows supports it. Any Linux audio program that doesn't play AAC is probably in maintenance mode and not active development. I found an AAC plug-in for PalmOS. Palm's WebOS plays AAC. There is Symbian software that plays it.
Just one package that offers a plug-in for BeOS, I'm sure there are others:
http://haikuware.com/remository/view-details/multimedia/audio/mp3-endoding-utilities/beos-mp4-aac-tools-and-soundplay-plugin
Frankly, I'm surprised you didn't drop OS/2 into your list of far off the beaten path OSs and devices.
Sure they can.
You're just being coy. I'm sure what was meant was that Android devices can't be used to buy from iTunes. The user could, if they wanted to go to their computer, buy from iTunes and load the track into the Android device. At which point, it's a little silly if they can just use the device directly from some other service.
I don't think it's a huge problem though. Even if Apple eventually isn't the #1 player in music downloads, they'll still be a more than viable player in that market.
Record labels now have little to no reason to stick with itunes.
By signing up with Amazon, they will have access to both iOS users and Android users.
That's a huge distinction that the OP should have made clear in their comment.
It amazes me just how off your comments are from any reality. At first I just thought you were just trolling but I now I actually think you believe the crap you write, which is really worse in so many ways. Amazon MP3 has been out for so where is this migration away from iTunes that you have implied would happen from this "little to no reason to stick with iTunes" argument you're trying to sell?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
It amazes me just how off your comments are from any reality. At first I just thought you were just trolling but I now I actually think you believe the crap you write, which is really worse in so many ways. Amazon MP3 has been out for so where is this migration away from iTunes that you have implied would happen from this "little to no reason to stick with iTunes" argument you're trying to sell?
Oh boo hoo.
Pot calling the kettle black.
Solip has a belief that the color of an ipad is the basis of people's car buying decision.
BMW designer says Apple made white the most popular color for car buyers
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
Consider the mindshare Apple must have when an inexpensive consumer electronic is the foundation for a purchase that cost several 10s of thousands of dollars. Crazy!
I suppose, but I would have thought the context of this discussion was clear enough. To say it's possible for an Android user to buy an iTunes track is technically true, but it's silly to assume that anyone would bother to buy new iTunes tracks after they've bought an Android when other services offer on-device purchases that appear to be far more convenient.
Of course WebOS plays AAC. How many times did Palm make it so their devices were viewed as a iDevice by iTunes?
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Originally Posted by JeffDM
Maybe, but I don't think it's very hard to understand what was intended. I think the most likely reasons to not understand what was meant is being a dunce or playing coy.
Or being a smart aleck.
Oh, I forgot about that one.
How could you forget the cat and mouse game that went on for months until Apple was able to get a court order against Palm?