Apple's 'black ice' predicted to 'thaw' by summer, pushing stock back toward $700

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  • Reply 21 of 67


    Originally Posted by TheOtherGeoff View Post


    Basically it's the loss of traction of Apple's stock due to the exhaust from these doubt mongers prior to the earnings release.  





    That's a better analogy than the actual one.

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  • Reply 22 of 67
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member

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    Originally Posted by TheOtherGeoff View Post


    If you're not from a cold weather state... Black ice is 'invisible' ice, forms from car exhaust freezing on untreated super cold road (below 20degF) surface.  We get it in MN all the time. 


     


    Basically it's the loss of traction of Apple's stock due to the exhaust from these doubt mongers prior to the earnings release.  



     


    I see. I've been to some pretty cold places before, but I don't really remember encountering any "black" ice before I believe.


     


    Ice almost killed me once. I was riding a motorcycle many years ago in some frigid Scandinavian country, and underneath a bridge, there was a patch of ice. I lost control, and I ended up sliding on my head into the opposite, incoming traffic lane. Luckily for me, it was real early in the morning and there was virtually no traffic on the roads. I was wearing a helmet, and the only damage was that I ripped my jeans and I got a little bruise on the knee. Riding motorcycles in sub zero temps can be fun, but also slightly risky I guess.

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  • Reply 23 of 67
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    And Amazon was just upgraded to outperform. I'm sorry I just find that comical.
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  • Reply 24 of 67
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member

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    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post



    And Amazon was just upgraded to outperform. I'm sorry I just find that comical.


    Makes sense. Last quarter, they lost what? Around 270 or so million?


     


    Maybe next quarter they'll only report losses of 165 million, that's a huge improvement, and it makes sense to upgrade the stock. What a profitable company! Meanwhile Apple is making billions and billions each quarter.

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  • Reply 25 of 67


    While we are on the topic of AAPL.


     


     


    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/al-gore-nets-another-fortune-164510966.html?l=1


     


    Al Gore seems to be doing okay these days.

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  • Reply 26 of 67


    Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

    While we are on the topic of AAPL.


     


    Al Gore seems to be doing okay these days.



     


    I guess backpage stuff really only shows up on the backpage.

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  • Reply 27 of 67
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member

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    Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post


    While we are on the topic of AAPL.


     


     


    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/al-gore-nets-another-fortune-164510966.html?l=1


     


    Al Gore seems to be doing okay these days.



     


    You could say that. Being able to buy Apple shares for $7.48 a piece? It's pretty ironic that a lot of his recent money comes from oil money too. 


     


    One of my many goals is to have a larger carbon footprint than Al Gore. I still have a ways to go, but I am working on it.

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  • Reply 28 of 67
    quinneyquinney Posts: 2,528member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    Then there's this. <span style="line-height:1.231;">Hmmm....</span>


    Google advises today that *ahem* analyst projections are probably too high?
    http://investor.google.com/releases/2013/0118.html

    How thoughtful of you to help them get the word out. Do they have a preemptive excuse prepared for if their revenue per click declines again?
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  • Reply 29 of 67
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member


    Apple screen revolution near: analyst


     


    Apple’s cancellation of orders with iPhone parts suppliers is not tied to a drop in demand but to a tech update, according to one tech researcher.


     


    http://m.nypost.com/p/news/business/apple_screen_revolution_near_analyst_0zYs8fi43l2ZJANNhg7qRN


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  • Reply 30 of 67
    paxman wrote: »
    Yeah, real tough. I'm hurting for you Apple. Plummeting sales, layoffs, take-over talk, selling off of assets, lack of innovation, customer defections... oh wait, that's Nokia... errr... RIM ....

    :no:

    And if we were comparing Apple to other companies, that would mean something. We're not. The market is comparing Tim Cook's Apple to Steve Jobs's Apple, unfair as that might be.

    Just release that earnings report already and put your damn cards on the table. Put an end to these ridiculous speculation articles.
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  • Reply 31 of 67
    I want a dividend increase. I want to make more money while holding onto the stock. :)
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  • Reply 32 of 67
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    cash907 wrote: »
    And if we were comparing Apple to other companies, that would mean something. We're not. The market is comparing Tim Cook's Apple to Steve Jobs's Apple, unfair as that might be.

    It was under Tim Cook that Apple's stock dropped nearly in half in the span of 5 weeks. And by Tim Cook I mean Steve Jobs. August, 22, 2008 at 177 to October 3, 2008 at 97.
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  • Reply 33 of 67
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 7,124member

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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    It was under Tim Cook that Apple's stock dropped nearly in half in the span of 5 weeks. And by Tim Cook I mean Steve Jobs. August, 22, 2008 at 177 to October 3, 2008 at 97.


     


    Looking back on it, that was clearly the beginning of the end for Apple. Too bad that iPhone thing never worked out for them. Maybe if they could have brought a tablet to market before they ran out of cash, things might have been different.

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  • Reply 34 of 67
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,954member
    If you're not from a cold weather state... Black ice is 'invisible' ice, forms from car exhaust freezing on untreated super cold road (below 20degF) surface.  We get it in MN all the time. 

    I didn't know it sometimes forms that way, but that's just one way it forms.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_ice
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  • Reply 35 of 67
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    anonymouse wrote: »
    Looking back on it, that was clearly the beginning of the end for Apple. Too bad that iPhone thing never worked out for them. Maybe if they could have brought a tablet to market before they ran out of cash, things might have been different.

    That was soon after the iPhone 3G launched with that plastic body and using pretty much the same ASIC as the original iPhone. I guess people realized Apple was just screwing them over and had no idea how to make a cell phone.
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  • Reply 36 of 67
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,772member

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    Originally Posted by quinney View Post





    How thoughtful of you to help them get the word out. Do they have a preemptive excuse prepared for if their revenue per click declines again?


    You read the same linked investor notice I did I presume. I don't think it said anything about click rates. It's a fairly prominent article over at 9to5. I would have linked it but it doesn't agree with AI. image

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  • Reply 37 of 67
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,954member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    You read the same linked investor notice I did I presume. I don't think it said anything about click rates. It's a fairly prominent article over at 9to5. I would have linked it but it doesn't agree with AI. <img alt="1hmm.gif" id="user_yui_3_7_3_1_1358537966794_1078" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies/1hmm.gif" style="line-height:1.231;" name="user_yui_3_7_3_1_1358537966794_1078">

    The forum here does have a stupid filter that mangles 9to5 links. Is that what you mean, or the content of the report disagrees?
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  • Reply 38 of 67
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 7,124member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    That was soon after the iPhone 3G launched with that plastic body and using pretty much the same ASIC as the original iPhone. I guess people realized Apple was just screwing them over and had no idea how to make a cell phone.


     


    And then they had the effrontery the next year to release what was basically the same phone, with just the letter S appended to the name, and call it a new phone. Hubris, sheer hubris. Android wasn't sitting still.

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  • Reply 39 of 67
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    I'll stick with listening to the $1,111 prediction instead.

    Since you twisted my arm the other day I will too. :smokey:
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  • Reply 40 of 67

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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    Then there's this. Hmmm....


     


    Google advises today that *ahem* analyst projections are probably too high?


    http://investor.google.com/releases/2013/0118.html



    Interesting. Thanks for that.


     


    Basically, they're saying, trust our proforma number.

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