Maybe if AppleInsider keeps telling themselves this garbage, they'll actually start to believe it.
"Overall sentiment surrounding the company at its lowest levels in roughly a decade..."
What are you talking about? Making this stuff up doesn't help your reputation one bit.
It's almost as if AI is part of the stock manipulation going on. Is the management of AI on the take from some Wall Street hedge fund? Are they doing some insider trading here? Will any AI management be indicted when this all comes to light with an SEC investigation? I guess we'll just wait and see.
"Anti-Apple sentiment" has 3 sources, outside of the stock manipulators:
1. People who for various a- and ir-rational reasons have always "hated" Apple. This includes people and organizations who've made their living directly and indirectly shilling for competitors, as well as people who fell victim to their propaganda over the years.
2. People who switched from Apple years ago and need to psychologically self-justify that. This includes people like John Dvorak who, at one time was an Mac user, doesn't really understand technology even though he makes his living writing about it, and has a nagging suspicion that he looks like a fool (he's right) for embracing Microsoft. They have a need to see Apple fail, so, given the opportunity, will do anything they can to make their need a reality.
3. Tech journalists. Journalists, by and large, don't have any ethical sense, and don't really give a damn about anything. But they do want to have juicy stories to write. And, as far as a juicy story goes, the only thing better than the rise of a hero is the fall of that hero. (Witness the Lance Armstrong story.) Who wants to read stories that tell us everything is just fine. I mean, a story that Apple is doing jut fine under Tim Cook, better than the rest of any of the industries they compete in, doesn't sell so well. It's boring. But, hey, a story that "the biggest technology company on the planet is falling apart in front of our very eyes," will not only get them a lot of attention, it appeals to reader's baser instincts. It sells newspapers, it generates clicks, it's exciting! Who cares if it's true. And, if they can "help the story along" a little, so much the better. If it turns out they were wrong, no problem, they'll just move on to the next juicy story.
Seriously, these AppleInsider 'hidden advertisements' (or not hidden, actually, and rather blatant) for their 3% discounts with MacMall were increasingly annoying before, but to get to the point they're at now with trying to make news out of it, is bordering on unethical.
It's almost as if AI is part of the stock manipulation going on. Is the management of AI on the take from some Wall Street hedge fund? Are they doing some insider trading here? Will any AI management be indicted when this all comes to light with an SEC investigation? I guess we'll just wait and see.
I have the same suspicion after this piece of garbage. From Kasper no less.
Hmm, uh... Not sure what to make of this move; timing wise.
Kinda weird, maybe.
Any number of reasons:
1. The companies realize that retail sales slow after the Holidays and want to try to get more business in the first quarter.
2. The companies suspect that updated versions will come soon and they want to clear out inventory.
3. The companies simply like to have sales going all the time to drive traffic and it just happened that a couple of them had sales on Apple products at the same time.
4. One company had a sale for any reason (perhaps their own sales figures were low) and everyone else jumped on board.
5. The owner of Best Buy has AAPL options that are expiring soon and they need to drive the price down so they don't lose their shirt.
Don't try to read too much into it since no one knows what's really going on. The earnings call today will be informative.
Well, thanks but "Any number of reasons" isn't particularly meaningful. I could add another 500 on to your 5 reasons.
Instate? Really? Did you dictate this into Siri? She didn't listen very well. Or you don't know any better. Webster's: instate -- to set or establish in a rank or office. Example: The new secretary of the treasury was instated on Monday.
"Anti-Apple sentiment" has 3 sources, outside of the stock manipulators:
1. People who for various a- and ir-rational reasons have always "hated" Apple. This includes people and organizations who've made their living directly and indirectly shilling for competitors, as well as people who fell victim to their propaganda over the years.
2. People who switched from Apple years ago and need to psychologically self-justify that. This includes people like John Dvorak who, at one time was an Mac user, doesn't really understand technology even though he makes his living writing about it, and has a nagging suspicion that he looks like a fool (he's right) for embracing Microsoft. They have a need to see Apple fail, so, given the opportunity, will do anything they can to make their need a reality.
3. Tech journalists. Journalists, by and large, don't have any ethical sense, and don't really give a damn about anything. But they do want to have juicy stories to write. And, as far as a juicy story goes, the only thing better than the rise of a hero is the fall of that hero. (Witness the Lance Armstrong story.) Who wants to read stories that tell us everything is just fine. I mean, a story that Apple is doing jut fine under Tim Cook, better than the rest of any of the industries they compete in, doesn't sell so well. It's boring. But, hey, a story that "the biggest technology company on the planet is falling apart in front of our very eyes," will not only get them a lot of attention, it appeals to reader's baser instincts. It sells newspapers, it generates clicks, it's exciting! Who cares if it's true. And, if they can "help the story along" a little, so much the better. If it turns out they were wrong, no problem, they'll just move on to the next juicy story.
And now a fourth. Imitation journalists on advertising sites like this one who co-opt the negative "real" journalists in your source 3 in order to sell merchandise directly for a commission.
Seriously, these AppleInsider 'hidden advertisements' (or not hidden, actually, and rather blatant) for their 3% discounts with MacMall were increasingly annoying before, but to get to the point they're at now with trying to make news out of it, is bordering on unethical.
They must be getting some massive kickbacks from this or they wouldn't be doing that. You would think that the user/commenter backlash would be enough for them to scale it back a bit, or at least not post them so frequently. But I guess $$$ talks.
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Seriously, these AppleInsider 'hidden advertisements' (or not hidden, actually, and rather blatant) for their 3% discounts with MacMall were increasingly annoying before, but to get to the point they're at now with trying to make news out of it, is bordering on unethical.
Exactly. I don't begrudge advertising on the site (and actually recently made a purchase from MacMall with the click-through promotion), but they shouldn't take a blatant promotion and try to disguise it as a "news" article. "Breaking news: Struggling retailers who had a less-than-stellar holiday season are instituting January price cuts to move stock" SHOCKING. /s/
Exactly. I don't begrudge advertising on the site (and actually recently made a purchase from MacMall with the click-through promotion), but they shouldn't take a blatant promotion and try to disguise it as a "news" article. "Breaking news: Struggling retailers who had a less-than-stellar holiday season are instituting January price cuts to move stock" SHOCKING. /s/
Same here, I'd be glad to buy through this referral, but it's the disguising it as bad news for Apple that's the outrage.
Good for Apple, their products are already overpriced anyways. This will move more units and increase OS X's market presence.
As for lower prices hurting Apple's image as a premium computer maker, that's a really asinine analysis. The Mac users I know use Macs despite the higher price, not because of it.
This "story" is a mess, from the point of view of "truthiness," ethics, proofreading, and even grade level of English: "There's also been rumblings . . ." (There HAVE been rumblings, but are you sure you want to promote them this way?)
Shameless. If you want to do an infomercial, at least have the decency to leave out the anti-Apple propaganda angle.
I'm left with a very depressed view of AI from this.
" . . . whispers of slowing growth . . ." Give me a break.
Agreed, I have never seen AI pull such a crappy stunt since I started visiting the site. It made me go to MacRumors where there was a least coverage of the lead up to the call.
But Apple's Mac growth has been slowing progressively over the last several years.
I'm guessing we're about at the glass ceiling or getting close to it or the 'wall.'
I've been impressed Apple has got to around 5 million Macs per quarter.
The stores have certainly helped. So has the car crash of Windows over the years.
Especially in the economic climate since 2008. We're in it. Deep. World recession and all that.
Apple hoiked the prices in the UK in 2008.
...and they hoiked the prices of the 'barely available' iMac. (Just bought that one...I'm typing on my 27 incher now.)
You pay £100 more for the iMac, plus £60 for the DVD external, and £200 more for a 'fusion drive' when you can get 256 SSDs for just over a £100 now.
That's an extra £360 for SSD and DVD capability. Way to go in the recession, Apple.
Take away the Retina from the MacBooks...and you're left with a pricey notebook. Instead of looking after shareholders, I'd like to see Apple giving us customers some price cuts or some added value in the line up.
...and a crap Mac Pro 'update' with a dinosaur machine that is way over priced for a tower. 2k for a machine that you can really tinker/upgrade with a crappy quad core processor. Bet that helped sales along with it's cheap ass Gpu.
Perhaps <span style="font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19px;">Thomas J. Watson's </span>
<span style="font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19px;">1943 </span>
<span style="font-family:sans-serif;line-height:19px;">prediction will ultimately be correct.</span>
Unless of course, you believe that iPads are are really computers but simply for the sake of increasing Apple's marketshare numbers. Otherwise it is a mobile device when arguing Apple's dominance in mobile web usage sector.
It can be done both ways. The iPad uses a mobile OS in iOS and that is why Android v iOS is a more accurate comparison than Android v iPhone in regards to mobile market share. It's also a computer because its hardware.
Those 13" MBPr's are still ridiculously overpriced, even with discount. I honestly wish they made a model with the MBA's screen, because all I want is a lighter, thinner MBP with a decent processor that doesn't suffer from the knuckle-bruising shallow keyboard of the MBA.
After earnings are out, this actually looks like they are cutting MacBook prices because that is what they have to sell. All of these businesses are not getting much iMac revenue. My guess anyway.
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Originally Posted by Landcruiser
Maybe if AppleInsider keeps telling themselves this garbage, they'll actually start to believe it.
"Overall sentiment surrounding the company at its lowest levels in roughly a decade..."
What are you talking about? Making this stuff up doesn't help your reputation one bit.
It's almost as if AI is part of the stock manipulation going on. Is the management of AI on the take from some Wall Street hedge fund? Are they doing some insider trading here? Will any AI management be indicted when this all comes to light with an SEC investigation? I guess we'll just wait and see.
"Anti-Apple sentiment" has 3 sources, outside of the stock manipulators:
1. People who for various a- and ir-rational reasons have always "hated" Apple. This includes people and organizations who've made their living directly and indirectly shilling for competitors, as well as people who fell victim to their propaganda over the years.
2. People who switched from Apple years ago and need to psychologically self-justify that. This includes people like John Dvorak who, at one time was an Mac user, doesn't really understand technology even though he makes his living writing about it, and has a nagging suspicion that he looks like a fool (he's right) for embracing Microsoft. They have a need to see Apple fail, so, given the opportunity, will do anything they can to make their need a reality.
3. Tech journalists. Journalists, by and large, don't have any ethical sense, and don't really give a damn about anything. But they do want to have juicy stories to write. And, as far as a juicy story goes, the only thing better than the rise of a hero is the fall of that hero. (Witness the Lance Armstrong story.) Who wants to read stories that tell us everything is just fine. I mean, a story that Apple is doing jut fine under Tim Cook, better than the rest of any of the industries they compete in, doesn't sell so well. It's boring. But, hey, a story that "the biggest technology company on the planet is falling apart in front of our very eyes," will not only get them a lot of attention, it appeals to reader's baser instincts. It sells newspapers, it generates clicks, it's exciting! Who cares if it's true. And, if they can "help the story along" a little, so much the better. If it turns out they were wrong, no problem, they'll just move on to the next juicy story.
I have the same suspicion after this piece of garbage. From Kasper no less.
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Hmm, uh... Not sure what to make of this move; timing wise.
Kinda weird, maybe.
Any number of reasons:
1. The companies realize that retail sales slow after the Holidays and want to try to get more business in the first quarter.
2. The companies suspect that updated versions will come soon and they want to clear out inventory.
3. The companies simply like to have sales going all the time to drive traffic and it just happened that a couple of them had sales on Apple products at the same time.
4. One company had a sale for any reason (perhaps their own sales figures were low) and everyone else jumped on board.
5. The owner of Best Buy has AAPL options that are expiring soon and they need to drive the price down so they don't lose their shirt.
Don't try to read too much into it since no one knows what's really going on. The earnings call today will be informative.
Well, thanks but "Any number of reasons" isn't particularly meaningful. I could add another 500 on to your 5 reasons.
The real question is; Why this now? Why TODAY?
Instate? Really? Did you dictate this into Siri? She didn't listen very well. Or you don't know any better. Webster's: instate -- to set or establish in a rank or office. Example: The new secretary of the treasury was instated on Monday.
Did you perhaps intend to say instituted?
Accuracy *is* credibility.
And now a fourth. Imitation journalists on advertising sites like this one who co-opt the negative "real" journalists in your source 3 in order to sell merchandise directly for a commission.
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Originally Posted by Tux Kapono
Seriously, these AppleInsider 'hidden advertisements' (or not hidden, actually, and rather blatant) for their 3% discounts with MacMall were increasingly annoying before, but to get to the point they're at now with trying to make news out of it, is bordering on unethical.
They must be getting some massive kickbacks from this or they wouldn't be doing that. You would think that the user/commenter backlash would be enough for them to scale it back a bit, or at least not post them so frequently. But I guess $$$ talks.
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton
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Originally Posted by Tux Kapono
Seriously, these AppleInsider 'hidden advertisements' (or not hidden, actually, and rather blatant) for their 3% discounts with MacMall were increasingly annoying before, but to get to the point they're at now with trying to make news out of it, is bordering on unethical.
Exactly. I don't begrudge advertising on the site (and actually recently made a purchase from MacMall with the click-through promotion), but they shouldn't take a blatant promotion and try to disguise it as a "news" article. "Breaking news: Struggling retailers who had a less-than-stellar holiday season are instituting January price cuts to move stock" SHOCKING. /s/
Same here, I'd be glad to buy through this referral, but it's the disguising it as bad news for Apple that's the outrage.
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Same here, I'd be glad to buy through this referral, but it's the disguising it as bad news for Apple that's the outrage.
How is that a disguise if the overstock was caused by slowing Mac sales?
[other than the fact that AI decided to place the whole damn ad in the article]
Good for Apple, their products are already overpriced anyways. This will move more units and increase OS X's market presence.
As for lower prices hurting Apple's image as a premium computer maker, that's a really asinine analysis. The Mac users I know use Macs despite the higher price, not because of it.
Agreed, I have never seen AI pull such a crappy stunt since I started visiting the site. It made me go to MacRumors where there was a least coverage of the lead up to the call.
But Apple's Mac growth has been slowing progressively over the last several years.
I'm guessing we're about at the glass ceiling or getting close to it or the 'wall.'
I've been impressed Apple has got to around 5 million Macs per quarter.
The stores have certainly helped. So has the car crash of Windows over the years.
Especially in the economic climate since 2008. We're in it. Deep. World recession and all that.
Apple hoiked the prices in the UK in 2008.
...and they hoiked the prices of the 'barely available' iMac. (Just bought that one...I'm typing on my 27 incher now.)
You pay £100 more for the iMac, plus £60 for the DVD external, and £200 more for a 'fusion drive' when you can get 256 SSDs for just over a £100 now.
That's an extra £360 for SSD and DVD capability. Way to go in the recession, Apple.
Take away the Retina from the MacBooks...and you're left with a pricey notebook. Instead of looking after shareholders, I'd like to see Apple giving us customers some price cuts or some added value in the line up.
Lemon Bon Bon.
...and a crap Mac Pro 'update' with a dinosaur machine that is way over priced for a tower. 2k for a machine that you can really tinker/upgrade with a crappy quad core processor. Bet that helped sales along with it's cheap ass Gpu.
Lemon Bon Bon.
It can be done both ways. The iPad uses a mobile OS in iOS and that is why Android v iOS is a more accurate comparison than Android v iPhone in regards to mobile market share. It's also a computer because its hardware.