Like, usual, it is likely that Apple is far ahead of most of our thinking. I can think of several good reasons...professional or amateur long distance runners who would replace shoes more often than the rest of us, kids with disabilities that need shoes to be more supportive for specific purposes, and for people who stay on their feet in factories or hospitals etc. There are so many foot, ankle, knee, and back problems caused by unsupportive or worn out shoes...it may have some potential.
If you need to be told when to change your shoes then ... (use your imagination)
Additionally, you might ask what's next? ... inderware?
"It's not like we were all smart enough to see a revolution coming. Back then, I thought there might be a revolution in opening your garage door, balancing your checkbook, keeping your recipes, that sort of thing. There are a million people who study markets and analyze economic trends, people who are more brilliant that I am, people who worked for companies like Digital Equipment and IBM and Hewlett-Packard. None of them foresaw what was going to happen,
either."
-- Steve Wozniak
No one comprehended what personal computers would have become decades later so why assume something so limited and superficial in your argument?
As for your argument how does a marathoner know that their shoes are still good enough for another marathon? Do they just buy a new pair for each one? Don't you think sensors in what we wear could lead to new ideas and markets? A nurse is smart enough to take my pulse with her finger but they still use equipment for accurate readings. Why is this so different? Are you assuming that the sensors would be to tell you when your shoes look too fugly to wear out in public?
No one comprehended what personal computers would have become decades later so why assume something so limited and superficial in your argument?
No one? That's arguable. I bet there were people who could predict what PC would be able to do, roughly. Of course some would went overboard and some "under" with their prediction. I'm not even sure if PC are right analogy here. Anyways...
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
As for your argument how does a marathoner know that their shoes are still good enough for another marathon? Do they just buy a new pair for each one? Don't you think sensors in what we wear could lead to new ideas and markets?
It MIGHT be even cheaper solution to buy a new one for each marathon, relatively to a purchase of the smart shoe - especially if Apple is involved LOL.
Well, anything COULD lead to anything else. Would it? That's is another question.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
A nurse is smart enough to take my pulse with her finger but they still use equipment for accurate readings. Why is this so different? Are you assuming that the sensors would be to tell you when your shoes look too fugly to wear out in public?
The right analogy here would be; having an implant which reads our pulse real-time and all the time and alerts us when something is wrong.
A nurse using equipment instead of a finger would be analogy for a device (not part of the shoe) that could check a normal shoe and tell us about its condition. That in fact would be much better solution than having a device (sensor ...) in every single shoe - but someone needs to think about the profit, I guess.
"It's not like we were all smart enough to see a revolution coming. Back then, I thought there might be a revolution in opening your garage door, balancing your checkbook, keeping your recipes, that sort of thing. There are a million people who study markets and analyze economic trends, people who are more brilliant that I am, people who worked for companies like Digital Equipment and IBM and Hewlett-Packard. None of them foresaw what was going to happen,
either."
-- Steve Wozniak
Maybe no one in power at DEC, IBM or HP foresaw personal computers. (Well, actually HP made some long before Apple, but they were intended for office use.)
However, others did. Guys like Alan Kay, who predicted easy to use tablets back in 1968...
Everyone had ideas back then. Who knows, without MS or Apple to hold us back with basically the same type of legacy software for decades, perhaps we'd be even further down some other cool path.
After all, you just had to look at sci-fi shows to know that people were dreaming of a fantastic future with computers (or computer access) everywhere, even at home.
And anyone who had a subscription to BYTE or Kilobaud or Dr Dobb's Journal, knew about Xerox's work at PARC. These ideas were going to be commercialized sooner or later.
No. I carefully choose the words have become. One can imagine one aspect of something and be right. Others can imagine several aspects and be right, but no one could have predicted all the aspects at the right time frame to predict what has become of the industry. It's impossible. When were Tri-gate transistors first conceived? What about hafnium-based high-k dielectrics? We can all say that data will get faster, CE will get smaller and lighter, and cost for a given performance will get cheaper but you can't predict how that will all happen. Science Fiction allows our imaginations to conceive of ideas but they do not make them possible by that same virtue.
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Originally Posted by Hardyman
Wait, this is the same story from several years ago. http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2011/03/apple-wins-smart-shoe-earphones-with-mic-ipod-touch-patents.html
Yeah anyone care to explain? Maybe there was a change to the patent..?
Originally Posted by xgman
This is the most embarrassingly stupid idea I have heard of in years.
So an idea is stupid if you don't understand its use?
If they (or anyone) can make a sensor that detects when the other shoe will drop, then they've got something.
Now you know how your mom feels…
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Originally Posted by stelligent
If they (or anyone) can make a sensor that detects when the other shoe will drop, then they've got something.
10 internetz!
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
So an idea is stupid if you don't understand its use?
Well - let's put it this way!
If you need to be told when to change your shoes then ... (use your imagination)
Additionally, you might ask what's next? ... inderware?
either."
-- Steve Wozniak
No one comprehended what personal computers would have become decades later so why assume something so limited and superficial in your argument?
As for your argument how does a marathoner know that their shoes are still good enough for another marathon? Do they just buy a new pair for each one? Don't you think sensors in what we wear could lead to new ideas and markets? A nurse is smart enough to take my pulse with her finger but they still use equipment for accurate readings. Why is this so different? Are you assuming that the sensors would be to tell you when your shoes look too fugly to wear out in public?
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Originally Posted by MrDave
I think the concept is great. How about for my tooth brush or a pacemaker battery or any other device that needs to be replaced when worn out!
It would be great if smoke detectors could chirp when the battery was low...
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
No one comprehended what personal computers would have become decades later so why assume something so limited and superficial in your argument?
No one? That's arguable. I bet there were people who could predict what PC would be able to do, roughly. Of course some would went overboard and some "under" with their prediction. I'm not even sure if PC are right analogy here. Anyways...
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
As for your argument how does a marathoner know that their shoes are still good enough for another marathon? Do they just buy a new pair for each one? Don't you think sensors in what we wear could lead to new ideas and markets?
It MIGHT be even cheaper solution to buy a new one for each marathon, relatively to a purchase of the smart shoe - especially if Apple is involved LOL.
Well, anything COULD lead to anything else. Would it? That's is another question.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
A nurse is smart enough to take my pulse with her finger but they still use equipment for accurate readings. Why is this so different? Are you assuming that the sensors would be to tell you when your shoes look too fugly to wear out in public?
The right analogy here would be; having an implant which reads our pulse real-time and all the time and alerts us when something is wrong.
A nurse using equipment instead of a finger would be analogy for a device (not part of the shoe) that could check a normal shoe and tell us about its condition. That in fact would be much better solution than having a device (sensor ...) in every single shoe - but someone needs to think about the profit, I guess.
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"It's not like we were all smart enough to see a revolution coming. Back then, I thought there might be a revolution in opening your garage door, balancing your checkbook, keeping your recipes, that sort of thing. There are a million people who study markets and analyze economic trends, people who are more brilliant that I am, people who worked for companies like Digital Equipment and IBM and Hewlett-Packard. None of them foresaw what was going to happen,
either."
-- Steve Wozniak
Maybe no one in power at DEC, IBM or HP foresaw personal computers. (Well, actually HP made some long before Apple, but they were intended for office use.)
However, others did. Guys like Alan Kay, who predicted easy to use tablets back in 1968...
Everyone had ideas back then. Who knows, without MS or Apple to hold us back with basically the same type of legacy software for decades, perhaps we'd be even further down some other cool path.
After all, you just had to look at sci-fi shows to know that people were dreaming of a fantastic future with computers (or computer access) everywhere, even at home.
And anyone who had a subscription to BYTE or Kilobaud or Dr Dobb's Journal, knew about Xerox's work at PARC. These ideas were going to be commercialized sooner or later.
No. I carefully choose the words have become. One can imagine one aspect of something and be right. Others can imagine several aspects and be right, but no one could have predicted all the aspects at the right time frame to predict what has become of the industry. It's impossible. When were Tri-gate transistors first conceived? What about hafnium-based high-k dielectrics? We can all say that data will get faster, CE will get smaller and lighter, and cost for a given performance will get cheaper but you can't predict how that will all happen. Science Fiction allows our imaginations to conceive of ideas but they do not make them possible by that same virtue.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
No. I carefully choose the words have become.
And I appreciate that care.
That's why I didn't quote or respond to your post, but to Wozniak's comments.