Apple could triple share of Chinese market with $330 'iPhone mini'



  • Reply 21 of 30
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,491member


    Originally Posted by Constable Odo View Post

    . Samsung is Wall Street's new champion and smartphone leader.


    Interesting comment considering Samsung stock does not even trade on Wall Street. Kinda outs your true motive in the post doesn't it.

  • Reply 22 of 30
    How about ipad mini ? Does it help Apple ?
  • Reply 23 of 30


    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

    If Apple gave a shit solely about marketshare, they would do alot of things differently.

    They don't "solely" care about market share. But there is much more to that statement. There is money to be made off of their ecosystem. Every Android phone sold contributes nothing directly to that end. A really, really cheap iPhone? Probably not. But a lower priced model to get more Apple products into the hands of consumers...sure.

  • Reply 24 of 30


    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post


    . I'm sure BMW doesn't really care how many cars Hyundai sells and I'm pretty sure Apple doesn't care how many smartphones the others sell, especially since Apple rakes in the majority of the profits. 


    BMW's target sales numbers may not relate to Hyundai, but it would be naive to think that BMW group is not actively seeking to increase the number of units sold. In fact they are aiming to be the #1 luxury nameplate in the U.S., seeking to increase unit sales by 25%.


    From a company press release:


    "The BMW Group will continue to focus on the premium segment. "Premium is and remains our business model and the basis for the BMW Group's future success. In terms of innovation, design, sustainability and efficiency, our vehicles will continue to set standards in the premium segment", emphasised Reithofer.

    Profitable growth will be achieved by launching new products in all vehicle segments and by engaging in new markets. "We are targeting a worldwide sales volume of more than two million vehicles in 2016 and hence significantly earlier than originally planned for 2020", stated Reithofer.

    The company remains committed to its long-term profitability targets and aims to achieve a sustainable EBIT margin of between eight and ten percent in the Automotive segment. Depending on political and economic developments, however, actual margins may end up being above or below the targeted range."

  • Reply 25 of 30
    gwmacgwmac Posts: 1,802member

    None of these comments addressed the biggest issue of making a TD-SCDMA compatible iPhone. Forget the price for a moment. If Apple wants to sell in more countries they are going to have to increase their SKU's quite a bit. As other countries also starting turning on their various flavors of LTE around the world, and there are a lot of them, the number of iPhone models will have to increase. What is the maximum number of LTE bands supported on current chips? I think only 5 maximum. 


    Big difference in the LTE bands here:


    and the iPhone 5 supported LTE bands here:

  • Reply 26 of 30
    19831983 Posts: 1,225member
    Come on China Mobile, let Apple in already!
  • Reply 27 of 30

    Originally Posted by samirsshah View Post

    No, $200.


    SEE?! No matter how cheap Apple makes their mythical "cheaper iPhone", people will still be whining about it. They believe that they deserve an iPhone TRULY for free.


    Which is why this year Apple needs to take the iPhone 4S to $299 off-contract, unlocked (while still offering it for $0 on-contract, locked), and say, "Here you go; shut up."

  • Reply 28 of 30

    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

    According to the firm, nearly 40 percent of all 3G smartphones shipped in China are TD-SCDMA, a figure up 15 percent year-over-year. Currently, however, none of Apple's iPhone models support the protocol.


    Just FYI: TD-SCDMA is China Mobile's proprietary variant of the CDMA 3G protocol.  Phones using only the TD-SCDMA protocol won't work on any other network.


    Another fact: China Mobile is working on their own proprietary variant of LTE: TD-LTE, which apparently won't be compatible with the LTE (aka 3GPP Long Term Evolution) protocols of any other network.


    Wild speculation: If Apple wanted to ship a lower-cost iPhone in China that wouldn't cannibalize higher-cost iPhones in other countries through gray market "exports," they could do so by building a special 3G iPhone for China Mobile that only supports TD-SCDMA.  Later, Apple could do the same with a TD-LTE China Mobile-only phone.


    Wild extrapolation: But if Apple ships a lower-cost iPhone that only works on China Mobile, what could they do to address the (perceived) need for a lower-cost iPhone in the rest of the world (and on other Chinese cell carriers)?  Could they somehow lock the low-cost models to specific carriers to prevent gray-marke exports / cannibalization?

  • Reply 29 of 30
    stefstef Posts: 87member
    Can Apple make a great $300 phone? Sure. Will it be identical to the iPhone? Nope. Will it be concentric with the iPhone, with a smaller function set and integrated with the iOS ecosystem? Yep. Will Apple make one? Dunno. Outguessing Apple is a fool's game.
  • Reply 30 of 30
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    One that's simpler (so lower price) specifically for the China Mobile TD-SCDMA network I could see.
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