I hate having to have Java installed on my Mac for my Adobe products. Really irks the hell out of me.
I find it interesting that they know the building in China where the attacks are originating from. Is it possible they are seeing what action the Chinese Government will take? Methink the hackers in that building are now clearing out and find another hole to do their business from.
Time to really start dealing with these people. We are too cozy with them. Screw them. We don't need their money or cheap crap. Plenty of countries can take their place. No more business no more money to try to take us down.
Unfortunately, we do need them (China).
Chinese interests control over 90% of the world's resources of rare earth elements.
Curious that when other companies got hacked, it's because they deserved it, their systems have swiss cheese security, their software sucks, etc. But now that Apple got attacked, it's time to fight back against those hackers.
And where are the comments saying Apple doesn't need to fix anything because if people stopped trying to hack them, there would be no problem?
Read the article, it's another Java vulnerability, therefore if you don't have Java, OSX isn't vulnerable.
Did your link prove that Apple is the company that lies through the teeth like Google? or you actually have evidences that there are datas taken from Apple's computers? or you're just talking out of your.. umm.. behind?
Which one is right?
Where did that come from? I never claimed Apple was lying. I said IMO it was unlikely that nothing was taken. Even Apple doesn't say that, only that they aren't aware of anything.
The reason for the Chinese hacking was to steal IP and other company data. I doubt it was just to pay a visit to Apple to show it could be done.
Did your link prove that Apple is the company that lies through the teeth like Google? or you actually have evidences that there are datas taken from Apple's computers? or you're just talking out of your.. umm.. behind?
Which one is right?
Where did that come from? I never claimed Apple was lying. I said IMO it was unlikely that nothing was taken. Even Apple doesn't say that, only that they aren't aware of anything.
The reason for the Chinese hacking was to steal IP and other company data. I doubt it was just to pay a visit to Apple to show it could be done.
But it is also possible that their attempt to steal information failed, either because they were detected early enough, or because the machines that they accessed did not contain useful data. I see nothing yet that rules out those possibilities.
[" url="/t/156065/apple-attacked-by-chinese-hackers-mac-software-tool-coming-to-protect-consumers#post_2280373"]It's not Apple that would. This is an attack on US national security, and luckily for us, the US has plenty of nukes.
You can't trust any commie nation, and they had better watch out.
So we have US CYBER COMMAND for what? Just to watch and see what happens? I know they are the military and Apple is civilian but they should still get involved
[" url="/t/156065/apple-attacked-by-chinese-hackers-mac-software-tool-coming-to-protect-consumers#post_2280297"]Yep, we know where the building is located and who is behind the attacks.
I say that we should retaliate big time. And then we can just play dumb and deny any involvement afterwards. When I say we, I mean the US of course.
Retaliate? Do u seriously believe most governments are not doing the same thing?
If Apple, and other American companies, pledged to start moving business to other countries China would crack down on this crap pretty fast. Money talks.
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It's not clear to me in what way either of those reports support your conclusion. Reasoning?
They don't. That's classic GG: say that your links support your statement ("If you want all the details") and hope no one reads them.
I hate having to have Java installed on my Mac for my Adobe products. Really irks the hell out of me.
I find it interesting that they know the building in China where the attacks are originating from. Is it possible they are seeing what action the Chinese Government will take? Methink the hackers in that building are now clearing out and find another hole to do their business from.
Unfortunately, we do need them (China).
Chinese interests control over 90% of the world's resources of rare earth elements.
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Curious that when other companies got hacked, it's because they deserved it, their systems have swiss cheese security, their software sucks, etc. But now that Apple got attacked, it's time to fight back against those hackers.
And where are the comments saying Apple doesn't need to fix anything because if people stopped trying to hack them, there would be no problem?
Read the article, it's another Java vulnerability, therefore if you don't have Java, OSX isn't vulnerable.
Java = Oracle, unacknowledged forks (Dalvik) = Google.
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Apple should go Thermonuclear with China
It's not Apple that would. This is an attack on US national security, and luckily for us, the US has plenty of nukes.
You can't trust any commie nation, and they had better watch out.
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Did your link prove that Apple is the company that lies through the teeth like Google? or you actually have evidences that there are datas taken from Apple's computers? or you're just talking out of your.. umm.. behind?
Which one is right?
The reason for the Chinese hacking was to steal IP and other company data. I doubt it was just to pay a visit to Apple to show it could be done.
It's a good thing the USA never does any of this stuff to other countries¡
Its all about spy-games.
Foreign government spies on US, US spies on foreign government.
They hack, we hack.
It's about getting leverages on certain things, and compromising on others.
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Did your link prove that Apple is the company that lies through the teeth like Google? or you actually have evidences that there are datas taken from Apple's computers? or you're just talking out of your.. umm.. behind?
Which one is right?
The reason for the Chinese hacking was to steal IP and other company data. I doubt it was just to pay a visit to Apple to show it could be done.
But it is also possible that their attempt to steal information failed, either because they were detected early enough, or because the machines that they accessed did not contain useful data. I see nothing yet that rules out those possibilities.
I doubt that the US will use nukes
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I doubt that the US will use nukes
Not now of course.
But who knows what will happen in the future, in maybe a decade or two from now?
Any communist government is a criminal enterprise, as far as I'm concerned, and eventually down the road, they might be looking for a real fight.
Retaliate? Do u seriously believe most governments are not doing the same thing?
If Apple, and other American companies, pledged to start moving business to other countries China would crack down on this crap pretty fast. Money talks.
-kpluck
Exactly, but you've the order wrong. The US was and is the pioneer in this field.
I think Samsung commissioned "Unit 61398" to hack into Apple's account to see just how many iPhones were sold... rather than shipped!