Nonsense. You would've switched anyway. Anyone who seriously wants to keep their 30-pin dock connector accessories can do so with the lightning-to-dock-connector adapter. I've got one; it works great with my sound dock.
Good point. I had heard that the adapter doesn't work for analog docks, which I thought was the case with the Bose Sound Dock. I was quite perturbed about that, but I'm glad I was mistaken.
Just as they did with people who had invested hundreds of dollars in floppy discs back in 1998, and now CDs/DVDs. And what about people who invested in serial or parallel port devices on PCs? ADB, PS/2, SCSI, Firewire, ... the list goes on and on.
Ooh, i really feel the burn on that one! Doesn't make it any less true that the obstacle to switching named by the article is the same whether going to an iPhone 5 or this phone. Although I did forget about the adapters, I could employ a 1/4" jack for audio just as easily as a lightning to 30 pin cable.
Nonsense. You would've switched anyway. Anyone who seriously wants to keep their 30-pin dock connector accessories can do so with the lightning-to-dock-connector adapter. I've got one; it works great with my sound dock.
The whole accessories argument is mostly silly.
I have 2x Apple dock for iPhone 3Gs, and Logitech speakers system. Logitech system had interchangeable plastic "cradles" for different iOS devices, but since 3Gs was current phone at the time, id didn't come with cradle shaped for more edgy 4 or 4s, nor have I noticed that they were offered later on. iPhone docks were also moulded for 3Gs shape, so no 4, 4s or 5, regardless of connector.
Some - a lot, maybe - accessories have backward compatibility, but how many are actually future-proof, considering that Apple changes device shape every generation or two, same connector or not?
But you might be right there, and I am also reluctant to give Google any important info of mine. I mean, they do live off advertising.
Sure, but so what. Likewise, Apple has most people's credit card and address info, and personal tastes derived from app and media purchases.
Just like Apple with its iAds, Google makes money off advertising... by keeping our info out of the hands of the advertisers who are paying for anonymous targeted slots.
If the advertisers had the info, they wouldn't need to pay Apple or Google for ad placement.
Ooh, i really feel the burn on that one! Doesn't make it any less true that the obstacle to switching named by the article is the same whether going to an iPhone 5 or this phone. Although I did forget about the adapters, I could employ a 1/4" jack for audio just as easily as a lightning to 30 pin cable.
I wasn't trying to "burn" you. The media made such a big deal out of the connector change, replete with sob stories from angry switchers, that it makes me wonder whether people have selective memories when it comes to all of the different connectors they've used over the years (and the money they've spent on peripherals).
But anyways, yes, there's an adapter, and it works quite well from my experience. I use one with my car dock connector and haven't had any problems with it.
I don't think Google syncs photos or SMS (unless you use Google voice).
The Google+ app is what they use to back up photos. I use it to keep all my photos in sync on my nexus 4.
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Of course. How is Google going to steal your private information if they don't download it to their servers?
We all know that google is a advertising company but they do not have some guy just looking at your information. Its a program that compiles keywords and gives you adds based on that. It does not give your information to the advertisers. It links the ads to the correct people. Google does value privacy hints why we have not seen too many reports of user data being hacked.
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Lightning is a fantastic interface. So much nicer than the old 30-pin, but the pin-heads at Samsung would lie to make people think otherwise.
Other then it being universal...There is no user benefits to lightning over USB micro-b. It is an obvious attempt of apple maintaining dominance on its accessory makers.
Of course. How is Google going to steal your private information if they don't download it to their servers?
Oh, le poison!
But you might be right there, and I am also reluctant to give Google any important info of mine. I mean, they do live of advertising.
I keep a lot of sensitive info in the notes field of the contacts, like alarm codes et cetera. Wouldn't want to upload all that to Google, and certainly hope there won't be a major security issue at Apple. It'll take quite some time and effort to make all that info obsolete.
Funny enough an owner of a HTC desire showed me the SyncManager just this weekend, when I met him down t'pub. He loved it. He has a Mac and an Android device ( clearly) and the sync manager as it is now working syncs music. Which means music on the Mac is uploaded to a cloud ( I presume) and downloaded to the device - that or he can play it over a stream. Photos too etc.
So this does work. As for getting iPhone users as opposed to Mac users, not necessarily that easy ( and in fact there is little that reading this file can add except maybe some system settings, it can't really download the apps - although you could read the apps from the xml - or from iTunes - google play doesn't have an API to do that)
Sooooo, if someone connects their HTC to my Mac, goes to iTunes, they can transfer all my stuff to their phone?
I know that there are apps which allow you to read/extract info from iTunes backup files, but this has got to be more of a problem than the two iPhone hacks reported this week? Both cases would require access to my devices: iPhone and computer.
Sooooo, if someone connects their HTC to my Mac, goes to iTunes, they can transfer all my stuff to their phone?
I know that there are apps which allow you to read/extract info from iTunes backup files, but this has got to be more of a problem than the two iPhone hacks reported this week? Both cases would require access to my devices: iPhone and computer.
I don't think it works over the connector.
Probably.
The Mac app talks to iTunes and gets the playlists.
Music is uploaded to the cloud.
Playlists appear in the Syncmanager.
You can stream the music on HTC.
All valid API and fair use ( dependent on the country). Similar to match.
Sooooo, if someone connects their HTC to my Mac, goes to iTunes, they can transfer all my stuff to their phone?
I know that there are apps which allow you to read/extract info from iTunes backup files, but this has got to be more of a problem than the two iPhone hacks reported this week? Both cases would require access to my devices: iPhone and computer.
It depends.
If your backup is encrypted, they can't do it without your password. In fact, I'm not sure the HTC solution will work at all if you have your backup file encrypted. It might fall under DMCA.
Especially given HTC's huge slip in sales, it would be far wiser for them to try and target their competitors, which includes Samsung and other Android phone makers.
I agree, their target should be Samsung's many phones, particularly the ones given away with no down payment.
This iPhone user would NEVER consider moving to a Google Spyware phone.
In response to what can or cannot be backed up on an android device...
For a typical user with a gmail account: your emails, contacts, calendar data, apps, wifi password are all backed up. If you chose to use the service, you can also have it automatically backup your photos using picasa. You can also sync your chrome bookmarks, etc as well. All this stuff is stored on the google servers.
For a power user with a rooted device you have a lot of powerful back up options. The phone typically has a recovery mode where you can do complete image backups (i.e. "nandroid backup"), this will back up absolutely everything including text messages, apps, settings. Another really popular option is an app called Titanium Backup. You can use that one to backup individual user and system apps. These backups are typically stored on either the internal memory or your sdcard, you also have the option to use a cloud based server like Google Drive or DropBox. One additional feature of Titanium Backup is the option to remove "bloatware" from the device that your wireless provider has forced on you.
Of course. How is Google going to steal your private information if they don't download it to their servers?
You also have the choice to back up information to your SIM card if you have an Android phone. Google doesn't require storing contacts in GMail... You can have an Android phone that has absolutely no contact with Google if you desire...
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True... I was speaking more about contacts.
Like I said... people used to "lose" their phone numbers all the time.
That doesn't seem to happen much anymore.
As for photos... if the only copy of those photos exist on the phone... that's their problem
Good point. I had heard that the adapter doesn't work for analog docks, which I thought was the case with the Bose Sound Dock. I was quite perturbed about that, but I'm glad I was mistaken.
Ooh, i really feel the burn on that one! Doesn't make it any less true that the obstacle to switching named by the article is the same whether going to an iPhone 5 or this phone. Although I did forget about the adapters, I could employ a 1/4" jack for audio just as easily as a lightning to 30 pin cable.
The whole accessories argument is mostly silly.
I have 2x Apple dock for iPhone 3Gs, and Logitech speakers system. Logitech system had interchangeable plastic "cradles" for different iOS devices, but since 3Gs was current phone at the time, id didn't come with cradle shaped for more edgy 4 or 4s, nor have I noticed that they were offered later on. iPhone docks were also moulded for 3Gs shape, so no 4, 4s or 5, regardless of connector.
Some - a lot, maybe - accessories have backward compatibility, but how many are actually future-proof, considering that Apple changes device shape every generation or two, same connector or not?
Oh, le poison!
But you might be right there, and I am also reluctant to give Google any important info of mine. I mean, they do live of advertising.
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But you might be right there, and I am also reluctant to give Google any important info of mine. I mean, they do live off advertising.
Sure, but so what. Likewise, Apple has most people's credit card and address info, and personal tastes derived from app and media purchases.
Just like Apple with its iAds, Google makes money off advertising... by keeping our info out of the hands of the advertisers who are paying for anonymous targeted slots.
If the advertisers had the info, they wouldn't need to pay Apple or Google for ad placement.
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Originally Posted by LarryA
Ooh, i really feel the burn on that one! Doesn't make it any less true that the obstacle to switching named by the article is the same whether going to an iPhone 5 or this phone. Although I did forget about the adapters, I could employ a 1/4" jack for audio just as easily as a lightning to 30 pin cable.
I wasn't trying to "burn" you. The media made such a big deal out of the connector change, replete with sob stories from angry switchers, that it makes me wonder whether people have selective memories when it comes to all of the different connectors they've used over the years (and the money they've spent on peripherals).
But anyways, yes, there's an adapter, and it works quite well from my experience. I use one with my car dock connector and haven't had any problems with it.
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Originally Posted by majjo
I don't think Google syncs photos or SMS (unless you use Google voice).
The Google+ app is what they use to back up photos. I use it to keep all my photos in sync on my nexus 4.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Of course. How is Google going to steal your private information if they don't download it to their servers?
We all know that google is a advertising company but they do not have some guy just looking at your information. Its a program that compiles keywords and gives you adds based on that. It does not give your information to the advertisers. It links the ads to the correct people. Google does value privacy hints why we have not seen too many reports of user data being hacked.
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Originally Posted by Dookie Howsre
Lightning is a fantastic interface. So much nicer than the old 30-pin, but the pin-heads at Samsung would lie to make people think otherwise.
Other then it being universal...There is no user benefits to lightning over USB micro-b. It is an obvious attempt of apple maintaining dominance on its accessory makers.
"No your honor, we were given this info because people entered it on their phone, therefore it wasn't stealing" /s
I keep a lot of sensitive info in the notes field of the contacts, like alarm codes et cetera. Wouldn't want to upload all that to Google, and certainly hope there won't be a major security issue at Apple. It'll take quite some time and effort to make all that info obsolete.
Funny enough an owner of a HTC desire showed me the SyncManager just this weekend, when I met him down t'pub. He loved it. He has a Mac and an Android device ( clearly) and the sync manager as it is now working syncs music. Which means music on the Mac is uploaded to a cloud ( I presume) and downloaded to the device - that or he can play it over a stream. Photos too etc.
So this does work. As for getting iPhone users as opposed to Mac users, not necessarily that easy ( and in fact there is little that reading this file can add except maybe some system settings, it can't really download the apps - although you could read the apps from the xml - or from iTunes - google play doesn't have an API to do that)
Sooooo, if someone connects their HTC to my Mac, goes to iTunes, they can transfer all my stuff to their phone?
I know that there are apps which allow you to read/extract info from iTunes backup files, but this has got to be more of a problem than the two iPhone hacks reported this week? Both cases would require access to my devices: iPhone and computer.
I don't think it works over the connector.
Probably.
The Mac app talks to iTunes and gets the playlists.
Music is uploaded to the cloud.
Playlists appear in the Syncmanager.
You can stream the music on HTC.
All valid API and fair use ( dependent on the country). Similar to match.
Doesn't every phone maker want to take sales away from Apple....and other companies? There is nothing new in this article.
It depends.
If your backup is encrypted, they can't do it without your password. In fact, I'm not sure the HTC solution will work at all if you have your backup file encrypted. It might fall under DMCA.
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Bad strategy.
Especially given HTC's huge slip in sales, it would be far wiser for them to try and target their competitors, which includes Samsung and other Android phone makers.
I agree, their target should be Samsung's many phones, particularly the ones given away with no down payment.
This iPhone user would NEVER consider moving to a Google Spyware phone.
In response to what can or cannot be backed up on an android device...
For a typical user with a gmail account: your emails, contacts, calendar data, apps, wifi password are all backed up. If you chose to use the service, you can also have it automatically backup your photos using picasa. You can also sync your chrome bookmarks, etc as well. All this stuff is stored on the google servers.
For a power user with a rooted device you have a lot of powerful back up options. The phone typically has a recovery mode where you can do complete image backups (i.e. "nandroid backup"), this will back up absolutely everything including text messages, apps, settings. Another really popular option is an app called Titanium Backup. You can use that one to backup individual user and system apps. These backups are typically stored on either the internal memory or your sdcard, you also have the option to use a cloud based server like Google Drive or DropBox. One additional feature of Titanium Backup is the option to remove "bloatware" from the device that your wireless provider has forced on you.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Of course. How is Google going to steal your private information if they don't download it to their servers?
You also have the choice to back up information to your SIM card if you have an Android phone. Google doesn't require storing contacts in GMail... You can have an Android phone that has absolutely no contact with Google if you desire...