Warren Buffett says Apple should buy back stock & build value, ignore Einhorn

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  • Reply 41 of 57
    dysamoriadysamoria Posts: 3,430member
    Buy it ALL back and go private.
  • Reply 42 of 57
    golfmangolfman Posts: 15member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomjava View Post


    Buffet doesn't own AAPL or GOOG or MSFT or IBM because he does not invest any tech businesses.  He states that he only invests when he knows and understands their business.



     


    He actually does own IBM.

  • Reply 43 of 57
    rayzrayz Posts: 814member
    dysamoria wrote: »
    Buy it ALL back and go private.

    I would love to see that.
  • Reply 44 of 57
    msuberlymsuberly Posts: 237member
    I
    tomjava wrote: »
    Buffet doesn't own AAPL or GOOG or MSFT or IBM because he does not invest any tech businesses.  He states that he only invests when he knows and understands their business.

    I don't know what Buffett owns. Berkshire owns a ton of IBM.
  • Reply 45 of 57
    bleh1234bleh1234 Posts: 146member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by msuberly View Post



    I

    I don't know what Buffett owns. Berkshire owns a ton of IBM.


     


    Warren Buffett


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    Description:


    As of September 30, 2012, funds at Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway were valued at $75.33 billion.



    During the quarter, Berkshire had 38 total positions. 



    In addition to the 30 top holdings below, Buffett also owned General Electric (GE), Verisk (VRSK), GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), Gannett (GCI), UPS (UPS), Lee Enterprises (LEE), and Media General (MEG) and Ingersoll-Rand (IR) as of September 30. 



    New Buys: DE, PCP, WBC, MEG

    Increased: WFC, IBM, GM, NOV, DVA

    Decreased: LEE, JNJ, GE, V, UPS

    Sold Out: IR, CVS, DG



































































































































































































    Symbol / Co

    Last Price

    Change

    Analysis

    KO

    Coca-Cola Co

    $38.79

    -0.03

    (-0.08%)

    20.1% of portfolio.

    WFC

    Wells Fargo & Co

    $36.26

    0.42

    (1.16%)

    19.4% of portfolio.

    IBM

    International Bus...

    $207.36

    2.16

    (1.06%)

    18.6% of portfolio.

    AXP

    American Express Co

    $64.03

    1.14

    (1.81%)

    11.4% of portfolio.

    PG

    Procter & Gamble Co

    $77.15

    0.47

    (0.61%)

    4.9% of portfolio.

    WMT

    Wal-Mart Stores Inc

    $73.87

    0.61

    (0.83%)

    4.6% of portfolio.

    USB

    U.S. Bancorp

    $34.24

    -0.04

    (-0.12%)

    2.8% of portfolio.

    DTV

    Directv

    $49.22

    0.28

    (0.57%)

    2.1% of portfolio.

    COP

    ConocoPhillips

    $57.72

    0.10

    (0.16%)

    1.8% of portfolio.

    MCO

    Moody's Corporation

    $49.79

    0.42

    (0.85%)

    1.7% of portfolio.

    PSX

    Phillips 66

    $65.27

    -0.41

    (-0.62%)

    1.7% of portfolio.

    KRFT

    Kraft Foods Group...

    $49.41

    0.26

    (0.53%)

    1.7% of portfolio.

    DVA

    DaVita HealthCare...

    $123.82

    2.01

    (1.65%)

    1.4% of portfolio.

    WPO

    Washington Post C...

    $409.09

    8.96

    (2.24%)

    0.83% of portfolio.

    LMCA

    Liberty Media Cor...

    $111.39

    1.89

    (1.73%)

    0.76% of portfolio.

    MTB

    M&T Bank Corp

    $104.06

    0.80

    (0.77%)

    0.68% of portfolio.

    BK

    Bank of New York ...

    $27.96

    0.38

    (1.38%)

    0.59% of portfolio.

    COST

    Costco Wholesale ...

    $103.05

    -0.38

    (-0.37%)

    0.58% of portfolio.

    VIA.B

    Viacom Incorporat...

    $44.12

    1.07

    (2.49%)

    0.54% of portfolio.

    USG

    USG Corp

    $28.33

    0.35

    (1.25%)

    0.5% of portfolio.

    NOV

    National Oilwell ...

    $67.07

    0.74

    (1.12%)

    0.45% of portfolio.

    GM

    General Motors Co

    $27.66

    0.57

    (2.10%)

    0.45% of portfolio.

    DE

    Deere & Co

    $90.51

    2.54

    (2.89%)

    0.44% of portfolio.

    GD

    General Dynamics

    $67.75

    0.71

    (1.06%)

    0.34% of portfolio.

    TMK

    Torchmark Corpora...

    $57.43

    0.70

    (1.23%)

    0.29% of portfolio.

    V

    Visa Inc.

    $160.52

    1.02

    (0.64%)

    0.28% of portfolio.

    PCP

    Precision Castpar...

    $188.79

    1.78

    (0.95%)

    0.27% of portfolio.

    MA

    MasterCard Incorp...

    $528.04

    6.63

    (1.27%)

    0.24% of portfolio.

    SNY

    Sanofi

    $48.57

    0.93

    (1.95%)

    0.23% of portfolio.

    WBC

    Wabco Holdings In...

    $69.24

    0.81

    (1.18%)

    0.12% of portfolio.


  • Reply 46 of 57
    cgr111cgr111 Posts: 40member
    charlituna wrote: »
    The real trouble isn't what Apple is or isn't doing. It's the analysts etc. they are the ones spreading reports like Apple cut orders on screens for iPads which just mean they aren't selling well. When the truth could be that they are selling like crazy but Apple was having to buy twice as many screens to make sure they had enough of their quality standard to fill the orders and now the supplier has their game together and this isn't an issue anymore so why buy tons of surplus.

    Analysts are also the ones saying Apple will release this or that and when it turns out to be wrong they scream delay so they can still look like they knew what they were talking about when they didn't. Or way over inflating what they think sales of something will be and screaming failure their crazy numbers aren't met.

    until these games are forced to an end, what Apple does won't be the key to their stock value 

    Apple should employ better PR and advertising people, rather than letting false information in the public domain.
  • Reply 47 of 57
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member


    Originally Posted by cgr111 View Post

    Apple should employ better PR and advertising people, rather than letting false information in the public domain.




    What, spend tens of millions to sue every single person that ever says anything incorrect about Apple?

  • Reply 48 of 57
    cgr111cgr111 Posts: 40member
    I didn't say sue! Please rereading my short post.
  • Reply 49 of 57
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,927member
    cgr111 wrote: »
    Apple should employ better PR and advertising people, rather than letting false information in the public domain.

    What are they going to do? Respond to every rumor? What if they dont respond, will it become true?
  • Reply 50 of 57
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member


    Originally Posted by cgr111 View Post

    I didn't say sue! Please rereading my short post.


     


    Right, but "responding" does absolutely nothing, so instead of wasting money there, they can either save it and say absolutely nothing (which also makes them look infinitely better than responding to total crap) or spend it on lawsuits to permanently shut the people up. 


     


    It's easier and better for everyone to not respond to lies.

  • Reply 51 of 57
    lightknightlightknight Posts: 2,312member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post



    That's the difference between Buffet and Einhorn: one is a long term investor who seeks companies that create real value, the other belongs to the hedge fund mentality who is trying to game the system to make a quick profit.


    My feeling is "investor" should not be used for hedge funds. They're not "investing" in a company, they're temporarily leasing those shares.

  • Reply 52 of 57
    lightknightlightknight Posts: 2,312member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


     


    Right, but "responding" does absolutely nothing, so instead of wasting money there, they can either save it and say absolutely nothing (which also makes them look infinitely better than responding to total crap) or spend it on lawsuits to permanently shut the people up. 


     


    It's easier and better for everyone to not respond to lies.



    Well, there is a "business" that knows how to permanently shut people up without any use of lawyers. Might not be quite legal though.

  • Reply 53 of 57
    lightknightlightknight Posts: 2,312member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cgr111 View Post





    Apple should employ better PR and advertising people, rather than letting false information in the public domain.


    Enlighten me. Why should Apple waste investor money paying people to raise their stock value instead of making/selling great hardware/software?

  • Reply 54 of 57
    mikeb85mikeb85 Posts: 506member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lightknight View Post


    Enlighten me. Why should Apple waste investor money paying people to raise their stock value instead of making/selling great hardware/software?



    Investor money?  You don't really know how the stock market works, do you....  

  • Reply 55 of 57
    cgr111cgr111 Posts: 40member
    Because, the entire reputation of the company and all of its products are being damaged! THAT's WHY!
  • Reply 56 of 57
    lightknightlightknight Posts: 2,312member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mikeb85 View Post


    Investor money?  You don't really know how the stock market works, do you....  



    Oh, believe me, I do. You probably don't get my point, though. Or you're pretending not to.

  • Reply 57 of 57
    hmmhmm Posts: 3,405member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post




    What, spend tens of millions to sue every single person that ever says anything incorrect about Apple?



     


    Well those guys don't really make their statements as facts. Analysts state predictions and disclose that it's a matter of opinion. When was the last time you saw one directly contradict facts or published information?

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