I'm not buying one because I don't wear wrist watches anymore. Too bad it can't be self winding or solar powered like some watches are.
If they can get the power requirements low enough couldn't they potentially use a tiny electromagnetic motor that charges the device by the natural motion of the wearer's arm?
1) My joke is a bit of a joke… at least that was my intention. (I thought it was funny)
2) Is taking off a watch daily something the average person will want to do? That could the affect the user experience to have to fiddle with a clasp twice a day. I suppose those that wear designer watches take it off daily at least to shower and such a small battery might be able to charge within the time it takes to do one's daily ablutions.
3) It can't be as easy to remove as a slap bracelet or it'll be an even larger target for thieves than the iPhone if they can't just grab your wrist as you walk by to steal your wearable computer. I have to assume Apple has thought of this, not to mention that a slap bracelet seems pretty tacky for apparel. Then again, Geordi wore a headband on his face so anything is possible.
Wait people actually sleep and shower with their watches on? Wouldn't you be taking it off anyway for those activities?
Wait people actually sleep and shower with their watches on? Wouldn't you be taking it off anyway for those activities?
For showering I would assume so, especially if it has a leather band, but I'm not so sure about sleeping. That said, I'm not exactly and authority on watches as I stopped wearing them once I got a cellphone.
Amazing how many people are trashing something that may or may not exist, and they know next to nothing about. We keep hearing ad nauseum about how Apple is not innovating anymore, it's just iterating on existing products. Then when we hear rumors about something new people call it rubbish, something they have no interest in buying even though they haven't seen what it looks like or how it will function.
Agree. I'll wait and see what, if anything, they release before I determine if such a product would be for me. It would need to offer some pretty useful functionality for me to get one (but can't currently think of what that would be as I work at home and am in general anti-social and a hermit, lol ).
I still don't even have an iPad because I haven't found a compelling use case for my life. I could find plenty of things to use an iPad for, but so far a laptop and iPhone are meeting my needs.
Wait people actually sleep and shower with their watches on? Wouldn't you be taking it off anyway for those activities?
I usually take mine off to shower (it's more of a case of not wanting to mess up the leather band), but definitely sleep with it, since I'm near sighted and it's easier for me to read my watch held up to my eyes, than a clock display across the room.
I used a developer's Android smartwatch for about a month, and loved being able to wake up, touch the screen and see the latest weather, RSS news feeds, and my Google calendar, among other apps. (The watch had its own WiFi.)
However, having to lay it on the charger every night was a real pain. Sometimes I'd forget, and then halfway through the next day I suddenly had no watch.
These things really need to work for at least a week, if not far longer. Put more batteries in the band, perhaps. That should do it. Or use body heat and motion to keep a trickle charge going. Or be able to lay your wrist on a charger that works within seconds (think Green Lantern recharge speed). Dunno.
A prototype of a rumored product that might not actually exist might possibly have battery life issues?
This is unacceptable. Steve Jobs would never have allowed this. This company is nose-diving into irrelevancy. Sell all your stock. I'm done with Apple. Just one more example of the incompetency of Tim Cook. He needs to resign ASAP. It's like the 90's all over again.
A prototype of a rumored product that might not actually exist might possibly have battery life issues?
This is unacceptable. Steve Jobs would never have allowed this. This company is nose-diving into irrelevancy. Sell all your stock. I'm done with Apple. Just one more example of the incompetency of Tim Cook. He needs to resign ASAP. It's like the 90's all over again.
I'm done with battery watches. Last year i needed to buy a new watch. I was thinking about getting an iPod nano and using that as a watch, but then I found out that you can't even have the display on most of the time, so that idea was quickly scrapped.
Instead, I just bought a solar powered watch instead, which should last me until the day that I drop dead.
Yeah that is why one of my watches is kinetic, But as with the solar watch they both have a storage cell and those fail too, and are not easily replaced
I too was looking at one of the Nano watches and decided against it as you did for various usability reason.
As I pointed out, i would be very surprise apple is making a watch, it could be something else, but Apple has to know, as kids know people who wear watches are a dying breed, every kind I see to day use the phone as the watch.
2) Is taking off a watch daily something the average person will want to do? That could the affect the user experience to have to fiddle with a clasp twice a day. I suppose those that wear designer watches take it off daily at least to shower and such a small battery might be able to charge within the time it takes to do one's daily ablutions.
I suppose the hipsters will be a big market for such an item. Do the hipsters bathe often enough? "Daily" is really stretching it for a lot of the ones I know.
As I pointed out, i would be very surprise apple is making a watch, it could be something else, but Apple has to know, as kids know people who wear watches are a dying breed, every kind I see to day use the phone as the watch.
Any reference to the iWatch isn't regarding the old-fashion definitive of a timepiece but of a wearable wrist computer.
As I pointed out, i would be very surprise apple is making a watch, it could be something else, but Apple has to know, as kids know people who wear watches are a dying breed, every kind I see to day use the phone as the watch.
Any reference to the iWatch isn't regarding the old-fashion definitive of a timepiece but of a wearable wrist computer.
I agree that wrist watch concept is a bit dated. If they do make one it will most likely have inductive charging and BT earphones because it will need to be water resistant to at least a few meters.
And what youth resistance? "Youth" are "resistant" to anything… until it's made "cool". I don't imagine many kids listen to the radio anymore, but Internet radio? They wouldn't go without it.
Two solitions. Solar power subsrate like my Casio has or wireless chargeing from eletrical fields around you or both. Samesung wil have an Android opy within 6 months.
You don't need to be a genius to know that a small wearable computer will have battery life issues at the current state of the art, but Apple has a long history of not releasing a product before it has a reasonable UX, which certainly includes battery life. Four to 5 days would be great but I don't think 2 to 3 days wouldn't be bad.
The UI for a wrist computer might be different than for a handheld iDevice. For example, the back of the watch and inside of the wristband could [be trained to] recognize the wearer's wrist muscle movements to initiate certain functions without ever touching the device. For example the following gesture could...
Feel free to add your own gestures/functions
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
2) Is taking off a watch daily something the average person will want to do? That could the affect the user experience to have to fiddle with a clasp twice a day. I suppose those that wear designer watches take it off daily at least to shower and such a small battery might be able to charge within the time it takes to do one's daily ablutions.
3) It can't be as easy to remove as a slap bracelet or it'll be an even larger target for thieves than the iPhone if they can't just grab your wrist as you walk by to steal your wearable computer. I have to assume Apple has thought of this, not to mention that a slap bracelet seems pretty tacky for apparel. Then again, Geordi wore a headband on his face so anything is possible.
A slap bracelet is, by definition, easy to put on and take off.
The unique device ID could be registered by a specific user, and locked if lost or stolen -- it would have little value to thieves.
Just because existing slap bracelets are tacky doesn't mean that an Apple slap bracelet would be tacky or cheap.
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Originally Posted by mstone
I'm not buying one because I don't wear wrist watches anymore. Too bad it can't be self winding or solar powered like some watches are.
If they can get the power requirements low enough couldn't they potentially use a tiny electromagnetic motor that charges the device by the natural motion of the wearer's arm?
I don't wear watches anymore either. However, I have a self-winding Omega (ca 1971) that I dug out, shook for a few seconds, set -- and it keeps perfect time.
I also bought a battery Fairchild LED watch (ca 1973) -- here's a women's version (couldn't find mine or a picture of it):
AIR, this cost $195 in 1973 ($800-$1,000) in 2013 dollars. It weighed a ton! AIR, the battery cost $10-$15 and lasted 6 months. The display was normally off -- you had to push a button to see the time.
Quite a difference between the price/capability of the rumored Apple wristband computer.
Aside: For those who never heard of Fairchild [Semiconductor] -- they are said to be the "founder" of Silicon Valley:
The historic marker at the Fairchild building at which the traitorous eight set up shop and the first commercially practical integrated circuit was invented
The building at 844 Charleston Road, Palo Alto, California, at which the first commercially practical integrated circuit was invented
In 1956, William Shockley opened Shockley Semiconductor Laboratory as a division of Beckman Instruments in Mountain View, California; his plan was to develop a new type of "4-layer diode" that would work faster and have more uses than then-current transistors. At first he attempted to hire some of his former colleagues from Bell Labs, but none were willing to move to the West Coast or work with Shockley again. Instead he founded the core of the new company with what he considered the best and brightest graduates coming out of American engineering schools.
According to Sherman Fairchild, Noyce's impassioned presentation of his vision was the reason Sherman Fairchild had agreed to create the semiconductor division for the traitorous eight. Noyce advocated the use of silicon as substrate — since the material costs would consist of sand and a few fine wires, the major cost would be in the manufacturing process. Noyce also expressed his belief that silicon semiconductors would herald the start of disposable appliances that, due to cheap electronic components, would not be repaired but merely discarded when worn out.[2]
By far, the most interesting part [to me] of this rumor is that the wristband computer will run iOS (as opposed to iPad Nano iOS). This means that, as technology allows, Apple can extend the capabilities of this device to make it the only iDevice you always have with you!
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Originally Posted by johnnyb0731
Also I'd be cool with the fictional watch as long as it lasts the day. Just charge it when you go to sleep
I'm not buying one because I don't wear wrist watches anymore. Too bad it can't be self winding or solar powered like some watches are.
If they can get the power requirements low enough couldn't they potentially use a tiny electromagnetic motor that charges the device by the natural motion of the wearer's arm?
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
1) My joke is a bit of a joke… at least that was my intention. (I thought it was funny)
2) Is taking off a watch daily something the average person will want to do? That could the affect the user experience to have to fiddle with a clasp twice a day. I suppose those that wear designer watches take it off daily at least to shower and such a small battery might be able to charge within the time it takes to do one's daily ablutions.
3) It can't be as easy to remove as a slap bracelet or it'll be an even larger target for thieves than the iPhone if they can't just grab your wrist as you walk by to steal your wearable computer. I have to assume Apple has thought of this, not to mention that a slap bracelet seems pretty tacky for apparel. Then again, Geordi wore a headband on his face so anything is possible.
Wait people actually sleep and shower with their watches on? Wouldn't you be taking it off anyway for those activities?
For showering I would assume so, especially if it has a leather band, but I'm not so sure about sleeping. That said, I'm not exactly and authority on watches as I stopped wearing them once I got a cellphone.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
Amazing how many people are trashing something that may or may not exist, and they know next to nothing about. We keep hearing ad nauseum about how Apple is not innovating anymore, it's just iterating on existing products. Then when we hear rumors about something new people call it rubbish, something they have no interest in buying even though they haven't seen what it looks like or how it will function.
Agree. I'll wait and see what, if anything, they release before I determine if such a product would be for me. It would need to offer some pretty useful functionality for me to get one (but can't currently think of what that would be as I work at home and am in general anti-social and a hermit, lol ).
I still don't even have an iPad because I haven't found a compelling use case for my life. I could find plenty of things to use an iPad for, but so far a laptop and iPhone are meeting my needs.
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Originally Posted by johnnyb0731
Wait people actually sleep and shower with their watches on? Wouldn't you be taking it off anyway for those activities?
I usually take mine off to shower (it's more of a case of not wanting to mess up the leather band), but definitely sleep with it, since I'm near sighted and it's easier for me to read my watch held up to my eyes, than a clock display across the room.
I used a developer's Android smartwatch for about a month, and loved being able to wake up, touch the screen and see the latest weather, RSS news feeds, and my Google calendar, among other apps. (The watch had its own WiFi.)
However, having to lay it on the charger every night was a real pain. Sometimes I'd forget, and then halfway through the next day I suddenly had no watch.
These things really need to work for at least a week, if not far longer. Put more batteries in the band, perhaps. That should do it. Or use body heat and motion to keep a trickle charge going. Or be able to lay your wrist on a charger that works within seconds (think Green Lantern recharge speed). Dunno.
A prototype of a rumored product that might not actually exist might possibly have battery life issues?
This is unacceptable. Steve Jobs would never have allowed this. This company is nose-diving into irrelevancy. Sell all your stock. I'm done with Apple. Just one more example of the incompetency of Tim Cook. He needs to resign ASAP. It's like the 90's all over again.
Am I doing it right?
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Originally Posted by NelsonX
Boy is really going down AAPL today! 422$
of course, a negative rumor on a rumored product always outweighs facts. two rumors = failure, right?
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A prototype of a rumored product that might not actually exist might possibly have battery life issues?
This is unacceptable. Steve Jobs would never have allowed this. This company is nose-diving into irrelevancy. Sell all your stock. I'm done with Apple. Just one more example of the incompetency of Tim Cook. He needs to resign ASAP. It's like the 90's all over again.
Am I doing it right?
you forgot to install Jony as CEO, COO and CFO.
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I'm done with battery watches. Last year i needed to buy a new watch. I was thinking about getting an iPod nano and using that as a watch, but then I found out that you can't even have the display on most of the time, so that idea was quickly scrapped.
Instead, I just bought a solar powered watch instead, which should last me until the day that I drop dead.
Yeah that is why one of my watches is kinetic, But as with the solar watch they both have a storage cell and those fail too, and are not easily replaced
I too was looking at one of the Nano watches and decided against it as you did for various usability reason.
As I pointed out, i would be very surprise apple is making a watch, it could be something else, but Apple has to know, as kids know people who wear watches are a dying breed, every kind I see to day use the phone as the watch.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
2) Is taking off a watch daily something the average person will want to do? That could the affect the user experience to have to fiddle with a clasp twice a day. I suppose those that wear designer watches take it off daily at least to shower and such a small battery might be able to charge within the time it takes to do one's daily ablutions.
I suppose the hipsters will be a big market for such an item. Do the hipsters bathe often enough? "Daily" is really stretching it for a lot of the ones I know.
Any reference to the iWatch isn't regarding the old-fashion definitive of a timepiece but of a wearable wrist computer.
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Originally Posted by jungmark
you forgot to install Jony as CEO, COO and CFO.
Thats Sir Jony to you and the correct job title is simply GOD.
Internet site speculates about a rumor from unnamed sources, results labelled a "report". Gah.
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Originally Posted by Maestro64
As I pointed out, i would be very surprise apple is making a watch, it could be something else, but Apple has to know, as kids know people who wear watches are a dying breed, every kind I see to day use the phone as the watch.
Any reference to the iWatch isn't regarding the old-fashion definitive of a timepiece but of a wearable wrist computer.
I agree that wrist watch concept is a bit dated. If they do make one it will most likely have inductive charging and BT earphones because it will need to be water resistant to at least a few meters.
As there seems to be a lot of youth resistance to the concept of a watch, then obviously "iWatch" isn't going to be a popular description.
So perhaps blogs should call it something else? iBand? iBracelet? iHand?
Ideas?
Originally Posted by KDarling
iBand? iBracelet? iHand?
Ideas?
I like Slice. No 'i'.
And what youth resistance? "Youth" are "resistant" to anything… until it's made "cool". I don't imagine many kids listen to the radio anymore, but Internet radio? They wouldn't go without it.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
You don't need to be a genius to know that a small wearable computer will have battery life issues at the current state of the art, but Apple has a long history of not releasing a product before it has a reasonable UX, which certainly includes battery life. Four to 5 days would be great but I don't think 2 to 3 days wouldn't be bad.
The UI for a wrist computer might be different than for a handheld iDevice. For example, the back of the watch and inside of the wristband could [be trained to] recognize the wearer's wrist muscle movements to initiate certain functions without ever touching the device. For example the following gesture could...
Feel free to add your own gestures/functions
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
2) Is taking off a watch daily something the average person will want to do? That could the affect the user experience to have to fiddle with a clasp twice a day. I suppose those that wear designer watches take it off daily at least to shower and such a small battery might be able to charge within the time it takes to do one's daily ablutions.
3) It can't be as easy to remove as a slap bracelet or it'll be an even larger target for thieves than the iPhone if they can't just grab your wrist as you walk by to steal your wearable computer. I have to assume Apple has thought of this, not to mention that a slap bracelet seems pretty tacky for apparel. Then again, Geordi wore a headband on his face so anything is possible.
A slap bracelet is, by definition, easy to put on and take off.
The unique device ID could be registered by a specific user, and locked if lost or stolen -- it would have little value to thieves.
Just because existing slap bracelets are tacky doesn't mean that an Apple slap bracelet would be tacky or cheap.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
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Originally Posted by mstone
I'm not buying one because I don't wear wrist watches anymore. Too bad it can't be self winding or solar powered like some watches are.
If they can get the power requirements low enough couldn't they potentially use a tiny electromagnetic motor that charges the device by the natural motion of the wearer's arm?
I don't wear watches anymore either. However, I have a self-winding Omega (ca 1971) that I dug out, shook for a few seconds, set -- and it keeps perfect time.
I also bought a battery Fairchild LED watch (ca 1973) -- here's a women's version (couldn't find mine or a picture of it):
AIR, this cost $195 in 1973 ($800-$1,000) in 2013 dollars. It weighed a ton! AIR, the battery cost $10-$15 and lasted 6 months. The display was normally off -- you had to push a button to see the time.
Quite a difference between the price/capability of the rumored Apple wristband computer.
Aside: For those who never heard of Fairchild [Semiconductor] -- they are said to be the "founder" of Silicon Valley:
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Company history
[edit]1956
From left to right: Gordon Moore, C. Sheldon Roberts, Eugene Kleiner, Robert Noyce, Victor Grinich, Julius Blank, Jean Hoerni and Jay Last. (1960)
The historic marker at the Fairchild building at which the traitorous eight set up shop and the first commercially practical integrated circuit was invented
The building at 844 Charleston Road, Palo Alto, California, at which the first commercially practical integrated circuit was invented
In 1956, William Shockley opened Shockley Semiconductor Laboratory as a division of Beckman Instruments in Mountain View, California; his plan was to develop a new type of "4-layer diode" that would work faster and have more uses than then-current transistors. At first he attempted to hire some of his former colleagues from Bell Labs, but none were willing to move to the West Coast or work with Shockley again. Instead he founded the core of the new company with what he considered the best and brightest graduates coming out of American engineering schools.
Only a year later, the staff of eight engineers decided to leave Shockley and form their own company. The group later became known as the traitorous eight. The eight men were Julius Blank, Victor Grinich, Jean Hoerni, Eugene Kleiner, Jay Last, Gordon Moore, Robert Noyce, and Sheldon Roberts. Looking for funding on their own project, they turned to Sherman Fairchild's Fairchild Camera and Instrument, an Eastern U.S. company with considerable military contracts.[1] In 1957 the Fairchild Semiconductor division was started with plans on making silicon transistors at a time when germanium was still the most common material for semiconductor use.
According to Sherman Fairchild, Noyce's impassioned presentation of his vision was the reason Sherman Fairchild had agreed to create the semiconductor division for the traitorous eight. Noyce advocated the use of silicon as substrate — since the material costs would consist of sand and a few fine wires, the major cost would be in the manufacturing process. Noyce also expressed his belief that silicon semiconductors would herald the start of disposable appliances that, due to cheap electronic components, would not be repaired but merely discarded when worn out.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_Semiconductor
By far, the most interesting part [to me] of this rumor is that the wristband computer will run iOS (as opposed to iPad Nano iOS). This means that, as technology allows, Apple can extend the capabilities of this device to make it the only iDevice you always have with you!