If high-end, high-quality Android tablets were outselling the iPad then I would be concerned. But they're not and they won't. I don't care if a bunch of no-name manufacturers sell millions of awful, cheap, lame, useless Android tablets. Nobody does.
So does anyone have any info on how accurate IDC has been in the past when talking about Apple? Anybody?
In one of the links above, IDC said in May 2010, that the tablet market might be as big as 44 million in 2014.
Considering that Apple sold more than that in 2012, I'd say IDC shouldn't try to predict anything more than 12 months away.
I've never seen an Android tablet outside of a store except 1 Kindle Fire that my friend received as a "sales prize" from her employer. 1st place sales team got free iPads and 2nd place sales team got Kindle Fires, 1st generation.
Granted, I'm not in college, so maybe students are the majority of people buying Android tablets?
One point, due to the complete de-googling that Amazon does to their Kindle Fire tablets, wouldn't simply classifying Kindle Fire tablets simply as Android tablets be a bit like classifying Mac OS X as UNIX when compiling PC OS statistics?
I mean, technically it's correct, but it doesn't really tell the whole story.
Technically, and practically, it's incorrect. Android is a brand indicating that a device uses Google's ecosystem. The Kindle Fire is not an Android branded tablet and doesn't use the Google ecosystem, and it isn't meaningful in any way to count them together.
It is logical that Apple commands the tablet market. They have the best quality, good price, by the far best price/performance ratio, best-of-breed software, different versions in terms of memory and cellular connection and most important: 2 needed sizes. Apple could learn something from themselves...
Buying Android tablet can mean on 2 basic problems: total ignorance or hating Apple.
Yes, it will "surpass" the iPad. Meanwhile iPad sales will continue to grow, iPad revenues and profits will continue to grow, and it will remain the dominant tablet in terms of app usage and sales, web usage, video usage, etc. Android is like a phantom. What the hell do people do with their Android devices?
They save them for early Spring garage sales.
"We'll throw in the tablet if you take the box of used underwear for a dollar."
I remember when people laughed at the idea of Android phone out selling iPhones. The current breed of Android tablets are just as good as the iPad. The software is lacking but that is rapidly changing. The IDC may have there dates wrong but it's inevitable.
However in the end why should you care does it make your tablet less enjoyable?
[" url="/t/156423/idc-projects-android-tablets-will-pass-apples-ipad-this-year-sees-little-good-news-for-microsoft#post_2291982"]I feel real sorry for all of the people stuck with a miserable Android tablet. Can you imagine all of the unhappy and crying kids who got some cheap Android tablet for Christmas? All of their friends had iPads or iPod Touches or iPhones and the kids were literally down on their knees begging their parents for the same. I would never treat any kids of mine that poorly. Child abuse comes in many forms, not just physical abuse.
Android's numbers have always been hyped and misrepresented since the beginning of time. You can't trust any Android numbers at all. We've seen how the game has played out these last few years.
Here's yet again, another study, where projections are being made, and it's totally useless and meaningless. Anybody can pull random numbers out of their ass. And if Android sales are going so great, why is it that every manufacturer is scared shitless, and refuses to actually report how many that they have sold? Most people weren't born yesterday, and only a naive fool could possibly believe that Android is a prosperous platform.
One little piece of good news recently is that at least when I am taking my next flight, the probability of a Fandroid sitting next to me is extremely low, since it is now known that Fandroids are allergic to high altitudes and it is also known that they're also allergic to opening up their wallets, though that last bit has been known for quite some time now.
I also read that Google laid off 1,200 workers (motorola mobility), yep, Google/Android is going great. I expect the stock to jump up at least 5% based on this news.
Anyone can pull random statements out of their arses. You are living proof.
Do you really think Android users are unhappy with their devices?
I only have 1st gen Android Tablet, original Asus Transformer. Since I've got 1st gen iPad for my mum 3 years back (and used it long enough to get to know it), it was my opinion that Transformer was definitely better device for me. It wasn't even my choice - I got it as a gift - but I was actually happy our "benefactor" didn't bring us iPad 1. Transformer's screen was nicer to my eyes, with resolution higher enough to be noticeable. Device had both cameras for Skype etc. Expandable storage. Updates were pushed to it without need to plug it to PC. SD card made it easier to copy content from my and other PCs. I could have Flash disabled, on demand or permanently on.
Granted iPad developed nicely over the years, but so did Android tablets.
I really hope you were just trying to be Justin-Long-funny in your post, but have you been serious, man are you delusional.
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The numbers I want to see are not just shipments. I want to see:
• Shipments (which includes unsold units)
• Actual sales
• Customer returns
• Units destroyed or given out to employees to get rid of them
• Units sold at a loss to get rid of them
For Apple, the first two numbers are virtually identical, often supply-constrained, and the last three are negligible.
And of course:
• Of the units that people really do buy AND keep, how much are they actually used, and how satisfied are the users?
• What's the breakdown of device quality/usability/value vs. disposable or highly limited "tablets" in name only?
• Profitability.
For all of the above numbers, I want:
• Real facts and data, or good solid detective work, or an admission that we just don't know.
• Not numbers/predictions pulled out analysts' digestive anatomy.
• Not stock-market manipulation.
• Not platform-fan pipe dreams.
• Not people unable to understand post-1990s Apple, the current market, or the buying public.
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Originally Posted by ktappe
Wait, wait, wait..... people actually buy Android tablets??
there were some people that bought Kindle Fire tablets. but by now I believe, that market is saturated.
So.... hmmmm?
But anal ysts must be trusted! Yes?
Doorstops?
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Originally Posted by lkrupp
So does anyone have any info on how accurate IDC has been in the past when talking about Apple? Anybody?
In one of the links above, IDC said in May 2010, that the tablet market might be as big as 44 million in 2014.
Considering that Apple sold more than that in 2012, I'd say IDC shouldn't try to predict anything more than 12 months away.
I've never seen an Android tablet outside of a store except 1 Kindle Fire that my friend received as a "sales prize" from her employer. 1st place sales team got free iPads and 2nd place sales team got Kindle Fires, 1st generation.
Granted, I'm not in college, so maybe students are the majority of people buying Android tablets?
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
[snipped] Why do they think they have any idea what will happen in 2017.
They probably know what they'll be drinking in the bar after work... which is as far as they think, rationally!
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Originally Posted by bailorg
One point, due to the complete de-googling that Amazon does to their Kindle Fire tablets, wouldn't simply classifying Kindle Fire tablets simply as Android tablets be a bit like classifying Mac OS X as UNIX when compiling PC OS statistics?
I mean, technically it's correct, but it doesn't really tell the whole story.
Technically, and practically, it's incorrect. Android is a brand indicating that a device uses Google's ecosystem. The Kindle Fire is not an Android branded tablet and doesn't use the Google ecosystem, and it isn't meaningful in any way to count them together.
All I can say it OMG what a load of old crap. iPad mini is about 10 years ahead
It is logical that Apple commands the tablet market. They have the best quality, good price, by the far best price/performance ratio, best-of-breed software, different versions in terms of memory and cellular connection and most important: 2 needed sizes. Apple could learn something from themselves...
Buying Android tablet can mean on 2 basic problems: total ignorance or hating Apple.
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Originally Posted by mudman2
We bought a Galaxy Tab because we needed to be able to talk to the poor soles who use our software
All I can say it OMG what a load of old crap. iPad mini is about 10 years ahead
I agree. Yet, my colleague at work say's the same about iPad. States no reason. Simply hates Apple. Probably frustrated as a child. Still is.
Originally Posted by poksi
…2 needed sizes.
Citation needed.
I.e. full of shit
Android outselling the iPad ? I don't think so.
Originally Posted by hfts
Anal extrapolation…
Huh. Haven't heard that one before.
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Originally Posted by MacVicta
Yes, it will "surpass" the iPad. Meanwhile iPad sales will continue to grow, iPad revenues and profits will continue to grow, and it will remain the dominant tablet in terms of app usage and sales, web usage, video usage, etc. Android is like a phantom. What the hell do people do with their Android devices?
They save them for early Spring garage sales.
"We'll throw in the tablet if you take the box of used underwear for a dollar."
However in the end why should you care does it make your tablet less enjoyable?
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Originally Posted by Spacepower
Granted, I'm not in college, so maybe students are the majority of people buying Android tablets?
Ummm.... college students are smart enough to carry an iPad. In addition, the iPad has One Note available on it.
A few college students carry Surface RT tablets so they can throw them around like frisbies and practice clicking and clacking them in unison.
Anyone can pull random statements out of their arses. You are living proof.
Do you really think Android users are unhappy with their devices?
I only have 1st gen Android Tablet, original Asus Transformer. Since I've got 1st gen iPad for my mum 3 years back (and used it long enough to get to know it), it was my opinion that Transformer was definitely better device for me. It wasn't even my choice - I got it as a gift - but I was actually happy our "benefactor" didn't bring us iPad 1. Transformer's screen was nicer to my eyes, with resolution higher enough to be noticeable. Device had both cameras for Skype etc. Expandable storage. Updates were pushed to it without need to plug it to PC. SD card made it easier to copy content from my and other PCs. I could have Flash disabled, on demand or permanently on.
Granted iPad developed nicely over the years, but so did Android tablets.
I really hope you were just trying to be Justin-Long-funny in your post, but have you been serious, man are you delusional.