There are enough for Gazelle to have a price - well over $300. So the current generation iPhone is $100 more than the current generation Galaxy. The previous generation iPhone is about the same price as the current generation Galaxy.
Or, if you want to do it another way, the iPhone 4S goes for $230 from Gazelle - 5 months after the iPhone 5 came out. How much were they paying for a Galaxy SII 5 months after the SIII came out? How much do you think the SIII will go for 5 months after the S4 comes out?
That pretty much proves the point.
The point that used iPhones retain their value isn't surprising, but be honest the price for a used SGS 3 is surprising. It certainly took me by surprise.
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The point that used iPhones retain their value isn't surprising, but be honest the price for a used SGS 3 is surprising. It certainly took me by surprise.
Yes, it was higher than I expected, but when you consider that it's still the top of the line Samsung phone available and that the overwhelming majority of Android phones sell for (much) less, it's not really that surprising.
I think he meant in sales. It's not hard leading in customer satisfaction when you've only sold a handful of devices.
Both, really. As you say it's easier to have customer satisfaction for a product when your numbers are low if they get an evan sample of each brand, but I think the 50 million S III's being shipped with dozens of millions clearly in customer's hands and still selling well after nearly a year is proof it's a popular device with high customer satisfaction among Android-based vendors.
Yes, it was higher than I expected, but when you consider that it's still the top of the line Samsung phone available and that the overwhelming majority of Android phones sell for (much) less, it's not really that surprising.
Yes but those other Android phones were sold cheaply to begin with. That's more a manufacturers fault than the OS.
What phones where those? Where they high end phones from a year ago or did you notice that you your looking at one of the cheapest phones and trying to be a troll.
How does someone who supports Apple troll on an Apple user site?
I was thinking the same thing. That word gets thrown around here a lot lately.
My guess is different definitions for trolling.
It's sometimes used here simply to identify those members pushing an agenda other than pro-Apple. Occasionally that one in drags in a post from an actual hardcore Apple fan as it's pretty broad. Sometimes it's used as a tag for someone who makes an inaccurate claim (or several of them), particularly applicable to new posters. Others might define it as making inflammatory or egregious posts simply to get an angry response from other members, no matter their OS allegiance.
I was thinking the same thing. That word gets thrown around here a lot lately.
My guess is different definitions for trolling.
It's normally assigned to anyone who aggressively or sarcastically promotes an opposing view from one that you hold. When it's done repeatedly, the label sticks. There's always going to be opposing views in every thread topic so it gets used liberally. Obviously this is a forum for Apple fans so more commonly the label is assigned to people who always take an opposing stance to Apple as there would be little reason to be a member of an Apple oriented forum without ever being pro-Apple except to be disruptive. Of course people can take an interest in what Apple does without being on their side as well as be critical of them when they screw up and there is value in having opposing points of view because criticism can help isolate and improve problems. The people who are here to be disruptive are well aware of who they are and I'm sure most people are by now. While it would be convenient to pick out individuals, there has to be a fair process for everyone to avoid it being personal so the rules are what they are: maintain civil discussion and it's ok. It seems to work ok here IMO, people are mostly pretty responsible. This forum really only has a handful of disruptive types vs hundreds on other news blogs and even they are mostly coherent.
The movement to smartphones has made it a little worse as it's a bigger market and applies a lot more to a younger crowd. Samsung would rarely ever be mentioned before the iPhone but now it's all that gets discussed on Apple forums. It's disappointing in a way because Macs are productive machines so while discussions included how many apps, how many units sold, resale value, they just seemed a bit more worthwhile. I don't think people care as much about phones nearly as much as they do their computers but for some reason it has become the topic of conversation. In much the same way that disruptive posters continue to disrupt, I think the problem is acknowledgement and participation. If people ignored rather than challenged, things would change. If nobody replied to Samsung topics, I imagine the topics would stop being posted. It won't happen though, just look at the topic about the Blackberry guy dissing the iPhone UI - 7 pages in one day.
You can go and see for yourself. I just clicked on the first four phones on the list. I can't be bothered to keep track of all the million different models of Samsung phones that are in existence. And Gazelle excludes many phones, they only purchase certain models.
I just made up that $15 figure, but I actually went back and calculated the average price of the first four phones that I saw and it came out to $27.50.
How does someone who supports Apple troll on an Apple user site?
Just because you share the same interests/position as (most) others on a particular forum doesn't mean you won't/can't engage in inflammatory discourse and bait others just for the sake of it. Trolling is about behavior and actions, not necessarily about political positioning. So yes, it is possible for an Apple fanboy to troll on an Apple user site. We see it here all the time.
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The point that used iPhones retain their value isn't surprising, but be honest the price for a used SGS 3 is surprising. It certainly took me by surprise.
I think he meant in sales. It's not hard leading in customer satisfaction when you've only sold a handful of devices.
Yes, it was higher than I expected, but when you consider that it's still the top of the line Samsung phone available and that the overwhelming majority of Android phones sell for (much) less, it's not really that surprising.
Both, really. As you say it's easier to have customer satisfaction for a product when your numbers are low if they get an evan sample of each brand, but I think the 50 million S III's being shipped with dozens of millions clearly in customer's hands and still selling well after nearly a year is proof it's a popular device with high customer satisfaction among Android-based vendors.
Yes but those other Android phones were sold cheaply to begin with. That's more a manufacturers fault than the OS.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
I think he meant in sales. It's not hard leading in customer satisfaction when you've only sold a handful of devices.
I'm just going by what was written, and customer satisfaction is what was specifically being mentioned.
I was thinking the same thing. That word gets thrown around here a lot lately.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
I was thinking the same thing. That word gets thrown around here a lot lately.
My guess is different definitions for trolling.
It's sometimes used here simply to identify those members pushing an agenda other than pro-Apple. Occasionally that one in drags in a post from an actual hardcore Apple fan as it's pretty broad. Sometimes it's used as a tag for someone who makes an inaccurate claim (or several of them), particularly applicable to new posters. Others might define it as making inflammatory or egregious posts simply to get an angry response from other members, no matter their OS allegiance.
Take your pick.
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Take your pick.
My definition is anybody who is not an OS X or iOS user.
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You mean exclusively.
It's normally assigned to anyone who aggressively or sarcastically promotes an opposing view from one that you hold. When it's done repeatedly, the label sticks. There's always going to be opposing views in every thread topic so it gets used liberally. Obviously this is a forum for Apple fans so more commonly the label is assigned to people who always take an opposing stance to Apple as there would be little reason to be a member of an Apple oriented forum without ever being pro-Apple except to be disruptive. Of course people can take an interest in what Apple does without being on their side as well as be critical of them when they screw up and there is value in having opposing points of view because criticism can help isolate and improve problems. The people who are here to be disruptive are well aware of who they are and I'm sure most people are by now. While it would be convenient to pick out individuals, there has to be a fair process for everyone to avoid it being personal so the rules are what they are: maintain civil discussion and it's ok. It seems to work ok here IMO, people are mostly pretty responsible. This forum really only has a handful of disruptive types vs hundreds on other news blogs and even they are mostly coherent.
The movement to smartphones has made it a little worse as it's a bigger market and applies a lot more to a younger crowd. Samsung would rarely ever be mentioned before the iPhone but now it's all that gets discussed on Apple forums. It's disappointing in a way because Macs are productive machines so while discussions included how many apps, how many units sold, resale value, they just seemed a bit more worthwhile. I don't think people care as much about phones nearly as much as they do their computers but for some reason it has become the topic of conversation. In much the same way that disruptive posters continue to disrupt, I think the problem is acknowledgement and participation. If people ignored rather than challenged, things would change. If nobody replied to Samsung topics, I imagine the topics would stop being posted. It won't happen though, just look at the topic about the Blackberry guy dissing the iPhone UI - 7 pages in one day.
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Originally Posted by genovelle
How does someone who supports Apple troll on an Apple user site?
Just because you share the same interests/position as (most) others on a particular forum doesn't mean you won't/can't engage in inflammatory discourse and bait others just for the sake of it. Trolling is about behavior and actions, not necessarily about political positioning. So yes, it is possible for an Apple fanboy to troll on an Apple user site. We see it here all the time.
Pretty common.
When the 4S came out, AllThingsD and CIRP Research found that 49% of the upgrade buyers on AT&T sold/gave their old phone to someone else.
So just over half kept their older iPhone for themselves.