Apple's Reno iCloud data center taps AT&T's latest DWDM tech

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  • Reply 21 of 27
    haggarhaggar Posts: 1,568member

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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    So you think all servers are created equal. Got it.





    Mac OS X has a Firewall and internet sharing features so I guess they also don't need any Cisco or Juniper routers in their data center¡ image


     


    You mean Apple doesn't already do that?  I figured that with some of the people in this forum bragging about how great it is that they use 100 percent Apple hardware, Apple themselves must do the same in all their offices and data centers.

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  • Reply 22 of 27
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    haggar wrote: »
    You mean Apple doesn't already do that?  I figured that with some of the people in this forum bragging about how great it is that they use 100 percent Apple hardware, Apple themselves must do the same in all their offices and data centers.

    And so what if some people use all of Apple's products? Are these consumers or companies building data centers?


    BTW, who has bragged about using 100% Apple hardware? Let's remember that a great many people have ovens, stoves, toasters, electric razors, electric toothbrushes, Blu-ray players, televisions, game consoles, cars, etc. that Apple doesn't make so what exactly do you think they meant by owning 100% Apple hardware?
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  • Reply 23 of 27
    haggarhaggar Posts: 1,568member

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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    And so what if some people use all of Apple's products? Are these consumers or companies building data centers?





    BTW, who has bragged about using 100% Apple hardware? Let's remember that a great many people have ovens, stoves, toasters, electric razors, electric toothbrushes, Blu-ray players, televisions, game consoles, cars, etc. that Apple doesn't make so what exactly do you think they meant by owning 100% Apple hardware?


     


    I am referring to the people here who like to say that they use only Macs and Mac OS at home, use only Macs and Mac OS at work.  So if these people can claim to use Macs and Mac OS exclusively, surely Apple would be doing the same in all their offices and data centers.  Otherwise, where is the sense in touting that you use Macs exclusively if Apple doesn't use Macs exclusively?

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  • Reply 24 of 27
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    haggar wrote: »
    I am referring to the people here who like to say that they use only Macs and Mac OS at home, use only Macs and Mac OS at work.  So if these people can claim to use Macs and Mac OS exclusively, surely Apple would be doing the same in all their offices and data centers.  Otherwise, where is the sense in touting that you use Macs exclusively if Apple doesn't use Macs exclusively?

    What does one have to do with the other? Surely we all know that Apple has machines running Windows and Microsoft has Macs. How else would Apple build and test iTunes for Windows and MS build and test Office for Mac, among other apps? So why think that Apple doesn't use enterprise level HW to support their consumers?
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  • Reply 25 of 27
    haggarhaggar Posts: 1,568member

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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post





    What does one have to do with the other? Surely we all know that Apple has machines running Windows and Microsoft has Macs. How else would Apple build and test iTunes for Windows and MS build and test Office for Mac, among other apps? So why think that Apple doesn't use enterprise level HW to support their consumers?


     


    Compatibility testing and building Windows versions of iTunes is one thing.  But if Mac OS X is the world's most advanced operating system and Apple controls both the hardware and OS, why should Apple need to use anyone else's servers or OS, for anything except Windows testing?

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  • Reply 26 of 27
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    haggar wrote: »
    Compatibility testing and building Windows versions of iTunes is one thing.  But if Mac OS X is the world's most advanced operating system and Apple controls both the hardware and OS, why should Apple need to use anyone else's servers or OS, for anything except Windows testing?

    1) Apple refers to Mac OS X as the world's most advanced desktop operating system.

    2) It's a marketing slogan and odd that you would hold such a phrase as canon and to be applied to all operating systems, regardless of their application.

    3) Apple does control the HW and SW which means they very well could have created their own systems from the ground up. It might be why they have had growing pains. Do we know of them buying in bulk from Dell, HP, et al. The problem is you asserting that because they make consumer OS that is beloved by many that they also must use that exact HW and SW in a completely different environment for a completely different reason to prove some point that was never stated. Do you really think Telsa only uses Tesla-made electric trucks to ship their cars across the country? Do you think Vespa uses a souped up Vespa with a trailer hitch to transport their mopeds?
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  • Reply 27 of 27
    Dan_Dilgerdan_dilger Posts: 1,584member

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    Originally Posted by Haggar View Post


    Can't wait to see all the rack mounted Mac Pros and Mac Minis that Apple is going to use in their own data centers, thus showing to the world that Apple practices what they preach and is not afraid to use their own products.



     


    You can clear up your curiosity (or is it just trolling?) regarding the hardware Apple uses in its iCloud data centers by looking at the raw headers of emails sent through the icloud.com domain: it uses "Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit."

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