The company, as yet, does not offer their iPhone 5 to existing TMo users on other plans and refuses to say when they will. Those existing users, as before, either must wait until .... who knows when, or buy their unlocked iPhone elsewhere and bring it over to remain on and be grandfathered into their existing plan. TMo seems to be waiting to see how many new customers they net before servicing existing customers who want to keep their existing talk/data plan (which is likely cheaper than the new 3 Simple plans).
Not sure why you say that my ex-girlfriend and I are on a contract value plan. Contract ends next year. She went to T-Mobile and walked out with a new iPhone 5 yesterday. I asked the guy are you getting a lot of new customers, and he said a few, but mostly it was existing users wanting the iPhone.
They took the opportunity to try and sell her on other stuff.
Apart from the contract to pay $20 per month for the next two years, that is.
It doesn't undercut the fact everybody else makes you pay $199 up front, T-Mobile charges $70 less for the phone, T-Mobile plans are more than twenty dollars a month cheaper for most people, and you can pay the phone off whenever you want.
Its pretty generous to call 12 people lingering outside the store a "line". Iphone is such old news. Now mainly purchased by grandmothers and 12 year olds.
That'd be so easy to check if you whipped out your Calendar. A bit over half a year old, actually, if we are talking the same 12-month year cycle.
Lol. I already admitted to being an idiot. When I was counting months I left out October. I didn't check because I thought I had it right. Still it was released closer to 6 months than a year.
BlackBerry Z10 requires BlackBerry Enterprise Service 10 (BES 10) which forces enterprise customers to upgrade in order to support new users.
Do you not have BlackBerry Enterprise Service 7 (BES 7)?
A few customers (internal or external customers)?
How does anyone make such a mistake to purchase a BlackBerry Z10 outright?
Why are even "rare diehard fans" of BlackBerry shocked. The fortunes of BlackBerry have sunk into the Marianas Trench. In my opinion, no practical, reasonable person could justify the purchase of BlackBerry Enterprise Service 10 to support users.
I was referring to retail consumer plans, after putting in so much effort to be less business like and more consumer friendly, RIM has obviously given up on that and is desperately trying to shore up what is left of their enterprise customers.
In Australia some handsets are sold on the basis of an exclusivity period by one of the carriers, occasionally people will buy an unlocked phone and use it with the carrier of their choice.
The "rare diehard fans" are what are left in the remaining 28%, a number too small to even bother stocking Blackberries anymore.
Its pretty generous to call 12 people lingering outside the store a "line". Iphone is such old news. Now mainly purchased by grandmothers and 12 year olds.
That'd be the iPhone 4, 8GB model which is quite popular among those seeking a cheaper point of entry into Apple's ecosystem, such as those you refer to in your post.
$20 extra for subsidization. That's removed from the plan once it's paid off.
It's operationally no different than any other plan from anyone else, since after two years you're expected to buy a new phone anyway.
I disagree. I doubt T-Mobile makes any money on the sale of the phone. It is giving it to you at a wholesale price at zero percent interest. Even with the $20 dollar a month on top of the monthly service plan cost, for many people the plan will cost significantly less than on other carriers.
My friend and I went to T-Mobile today. She bought an iPhone 5. It is for 24 months. Do the math. The phone costs 579. She paid 99 down. To pay the rest at $20 a month she needs 24 months. You also have to pay the sales tax for the whole purchase at the time of paying the $99.
At T-Mo's web site, one can see the base price for any number of lines in a plan, and, the small print says "Taxes and fees additional". I think the additional amount can be substantial (something like $30 or more). Can you tell us how much your friend's monthly cost is? How much is the "additional" cost?
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And every age in between.
You realize Apple sold an average of 500,000 iPhones every day last quarter, right?
Half-a-million a day.
That's a lot of grandmas and grandkids...
Not sure why you say that my ex-girlfriend and I are on a contract value plan. Contract ends next year. She went to T-Mobile and walked out with a new iPhone 5 yesterday. I asked the guy are you getting a lot of new customers, and he said a few, but mostly it was existing users wanting the iPhone.
They took the opportunity to try and sell her on other stuff.
It doesn't undercut the fact everybody else makes you pay $199 up front, T-Mobile charges $70 less for the phone, T-Mobile plans are more than twenty dollars a month cheaper for most people, and you can pay the phone off whenever you want.
Lol. I already admitted to being an idiot. When I was counting months I left out October. I didn't check because I thought I had it right. Still it was released closer to 6 months than a year.
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BlackBerry Z10 requires BlackBerry Enterprise Service 10 (BES 10) which forces enterprise customers to upgrade in order to support new users.
Do you not have BlackBerry Enterprise Service 7 (BES 7)?
A few customers (internal or external customers)?
How does anyone make such a mistake to purchase a BlackBerry Z10 outright?
Why are even "rare diehard fans" of BlackBerry shocked. The fortunes of BlackBerry have sunk into the Marianas Trench. In my opinion, no practical, reasonable person could justify the purchase of BlackBerry Enterprise Service 10 to support users.
I was referring to retail consumer plans, after putting in so much effort to be less business like and more consumer friendly, RIM has obviously given up on that and is desperately trying to shore up what is left of their enterprise customers.
In Australia some handsets are sold on the basis of an exclusivity period by one of the carriers, occasionally people will buy an unlocked phone and use it with the carrier of their choice.
The "rare diehard fans" are what are left in the remaining 28%, a number too small to even bother stocking Blackberries anymore.
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Originally Posted by davestall
Its pretty generous to call 12 people lingering outside the store a "line". Iphone is such old news. Now mainly purchased by grandmothers and 12 year olds.
That'd be the iPhone 4, 8GB model which is quite popular among those seeking a cheaper point of entry into Apple's ecosystem, such as those you refer to in your post.
I see that it costs $99 only at T-Mobile, but as I can see we will have to pay 20usd/mth for a 2yr contract with T-mobile. Is it real?
Originally Posted by Crodwin
I see that it costs $99 only at T-Mobile, but as I can see we will have to pay 20usd/mth for a 2yr contract with T-mobile. Is it real?
$20 extra for subsidization. That's removed from the plan once it's paid off.
It's operationally no different than any other plan from anyone else, since after two years you're expected to buy a new phone anyway.
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$20 extra for subsidization. That's removed from the plan once it's paid off.
It's operationally no different than any other plan from anyone else, since after two years you're expected to buy a new phone anyway.
I disagree. I doubt T-Mobile makes any money on the sale of the phone. It is giving it to you at a wholesale price at zero percent interest. Even with the $20 dollar a month on top of the monthly service plan cost, for many people the plan will cost significantly less than on other carriers.
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My friend and I went to T-Mobile today. She bought an iPhone 5. It is for 24 months. Do the math. The phone costs 579. She paid 99 down. To pay the rest at $20 a month she needs 24 months. You also have to pay the sales tax for the whole purchase at the time of paying the $99.
At T-Mo's web site, one can see the base price for any number of lines in a plan, and, the small print says "Taxes and fees additional". I think the additional amount can be substantial (something like $30 or more). Can you tell us how much your friend's monthly cost is? How much is the "additional" cost?
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
$20 extra for subsidization. That's removed from the plan once it's paid off.
It's operationally no different than any other plan from anyone else, since after two years you're expected to buy a new phone anyway.
If you don't buy a new phone, VZ and ATT will continue charging you the same monthly fee. In effect, they rob you $20 per month.
Originally Posted by jj.yuan
In effect, they rob you $20 per month.
Well, you choose to pay it.
Actually, quite a bit more since their equivalent plans are much more expensive.