I swear, "Wall Street Cheat Sheet" autochecks AppleInsider for new stories and then reposts them as their own. The minute after a story is posted on AI, Cheat Sheet posts it on the Yahoo newsreader with their own spin.
Actions which are beyond lazy, because AI oft times repurposes the posts of Philip Elmer DeWitt, The Verge, Engadget, etc. to repurpose and post them under their own headline. I'd love to see more original reporting here.
... They seem more and more inclined to do whatever it takes to gain market share, ethical or not.
I think this is mostly based on the illusion that they were a normal, mostly moral type of company to begin with (that they've now "gone bad" or whatever). There is in fact a long history from what I've heard of Samsung operating outside of the law or laws. I know most large companies are semi-corrupt and all have corrupt employees here or there, but again, based on what I've heard, Samsung has a long history of deliberate actions of this sort and worse.
Does anybody really think that Taiwan is the only country where Samsung is doing this? My guess is that they do similarly unethical marketing activities in all major markets, but Taiwan is the only place where they've been caught red-handed... so far.
Not surprised ... didn't they publicly state they were dissatisfied with Windows 8 and no longer going to support/build products running it? Not to mention all the ads making fun of iPhone users ... Samsung needs to continue investing (or to a larger degree anyway) in promotingthemselves rather than being concerned crtitisizing everyone else.
Actions which are beyond lazy, because AI oft times repurposes the posts of Philip Elmer DeWitt, The Verge, Engadget, etc. to repurpose and post them under their own headline. I'd love to see more original reporting here.
At least AI posts stories that are more than a few lines long. WS Cheatsheet posts new 'articles' ad nausuaum and always with a yellow journalism headline to get clicks. There is never, well 99.9% of the time, any substance in their reports but they are plastered all over Yahoo.com.
They will also ignore the simple fact Samsung has already admitted they are guilty.
Credit where credit is due. GatorGuy has acknowledged it (in this thread as a matter of fact) but when I brought the Taiwanese issue up in a thread a couple days ago KDarling contorted it to make it appear as if it was some lone guy in Taiwan who was neither operating under the Samsung's purview or knowledge.
Cue Kdarling and Gatorguy saying that they're only allegations and there's no actual proof that Samsung would ever do anything like that.
Ignoring, of course, all the times they HAVE been caught doing things that are illegal and unethical.
They will also ignore the simple fact Samsung has already admitted they are guilty.
I am not remotely suggesting that those two are -- indeed, I think they are not -- but I have little doubt in my mind that Samsung has tried the same trick here at AI.
And I agree with SolipsismX: credit is due where it's due.
There should be an investigation of this happening in every Country where Samsung sells phones. It's gotten so bad that I don't even believe reviews anymore.
I live in Canada and am a customer of a company named Koodo in which I shamefully use an Android phone. Horrible experience but that's beside the point, just counting down the days until I can switch back to iPhone.
Anyway not long ago I decided to go to the Koodo website to check out what some people had to say about the iPhone 5 and to my shock the thing was rated something like 2 or 2-1/2 out of 5 stars with about 30 reviews at the time. So I start reading the reviews one by one only to find that most of the reviews were bogus. The 4 or 5 star reviews where of actual iPhone 5 owners and the others were 1 star reviews bashing iPhone for being the same as the previous models and they should instead buy a galaxy s2 which is a better phone. One guy even had the balls to review using a username in the likeness of AndroidUser.
This is just one example of many many websites with the same results. If you want a good chuckle feel free to visit www.Koodomobile.com and read the reviews. It has since balanced out a little bit but still skewed because of the bogus reviews.
These people are either mentally sick or are compensated somehow. My money would be on it's a combination of both. To put so much effort into trying to persuade people to your agenda for a device requires professional help. For a company to do so is not mentally driven but is unethical but what does Samsung know about ethics.
(Does anybody else snigger whenever they hear that?)
Samsung's Motto: Don't Be Good
Whenever I hear that Google Motto I just add the rest of the line in my head
......because we are enough evil to go around.
No company is perfect, they all have their shameful practices that are either publicly known or unknown, including Apple, but those two companies Google and Samsung play in an elite league.
(Does anybody else snigger whenever they hear that?)
Consider their phrase. They don't say We're Not Evil or We Don't Do Evil, they simply state Don't Be Evil which is really telling others to not be evil. For example, if Google changed their motto to Don't Be Samsung it wouldn't lose any of the current meaning.
On top of that, this is business and it's hard to see how anything that happens in business is evil. It can certainly be underhanded, unethical and/or illegal, but to be evil evokes more of a spiritual feeling.
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Originally Posted by TeaEarleGreyHot
Hiring shills to write phony reviews is hardly novel. And not illegal in the US, either. It's called "advertising".
Please do something called "research" before you make that claim.
Hiring shills is not illegal ONLY if you don't get caught doing it.
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Originally Posted by DaveN
I swear, "Wall Street Cheat Sheet" autochecks AppleInsider for new stories and then reposts them as their own. The minute after a story is posted on AI, Cheat Sheet posts it on the Yahoo newsreader with their own spin.
Actions which are beyond lazy, because AI oft times repurposes the posts of Philip Elmer DeWitt, The Verge, Engadget, etc. to repurpose and post them under their own headline. I'd love to see more original reporting here.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
... They seem more and more inclined to do whatever it takes to gain market share, ethical or not.
I think this is mostly based on the illusion that they were a normal, mostly moral type of company to begin with (that they've now "gone bad" or whatever). There is in fact a long history from what I've heard of Samsung operating outside of the law or laws. I know most large companies are semi-corrupt and all have corrupt employees here or there, but again, based on what I've heard, Samsung has a long history of deliberate actions of this sort and worse.
Not surprised ... didn't they publicly state they were dissatisfied with Windows 8 and no longer going to support/build products running it? Not to mention all the ads making fun of iPhone users ... Samsung needs to continue investing (or to a larger degree anyway) in promoting themselves rather than being concerned crtitisizing everyone else.
And they will only get slap on the wrist.
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich
Actions which are beyond lazy, because AI oft times repurposes the posts of Philip Elmer DeWitt, The Verge, Engadget, etc. to repurpose and post them under their own headline. I'd love to see more original reporting here.
At least AI posts stories that are more than a few lines long. WS Cheatsheet posts new 'articles' ad nausuaum and always with a yellow journalism headline to get clicks. There is never, well 99.9% of the time, any substance in their reports but they are plastered all over Yahoo.com.
I like AP, as contrary to the name they do cover a broader spectrum of news.
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Originally Posted by NasserAE
Shocked¡
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Cue Kdarling and Gatorguy saying that they're only allegations and there's no actual proof that Samsung would ever do anything like that.
Ignoring, of course, all the times they HAVE been caught doing things that are illegal and unethical.
They will also ignore the simple fact Samsung has already admitted they are guilty.
Credit where credit is due. GatorGuy has acknowledged it (in this thread as a matter of fact) but when I brought the Taiwanese issue up in a thread a couple days ago KDarling contorted it to make it appear as if it was some lone guy in Taiwan who was neither operating under the Samsung's purview or knowledge.
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Originally Posted by Steven N.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
Cue Kdarling and Gatorguy saying that they're only allegations and there's no actual proof that Samsung would ever do anything like that.
Ignoring, of course, all the times they HAVE been caught doing things that are illegal and unethical.
They will also ignore the simple fact Samsung has already admitted they are guilty.
I am not remotely suggesting that those two are -- indeed, I think they are not -- but I have little doubt in my mind that Samsung has tried the same trick here at AI.
And I agree with SolipsismX: credit is due where it's due.
Well, in a few months I will go to a few Android forums.
I like Android.
I will try to develop an app for myself, and then one to submit to google play.
Then, if I can monetize it from my app or find another way to pay, I will try to focus on iOS.
I would love that.
Advice for a young man full of good will?
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Certainly no allegation and I'm not surprised by it either. Samsung admits it happened.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-admits-to-trolling-HTC_id41977
They seem more and more inclined to do whatever it takes to gain market share, ethical or not.
C'mon, Gatorguy.
You can do better than that!
Let's hear some real condemnation from you about the company regularly caught with their hand in the cookie jar!
What are you afraid of?
That you'll get fired?
Google's Motto: Don't Be Evil
(Does anybody else snigger whenever they hear that?)
Samsung's Motto: Don't Be Good
I live in Canada and am a customer of a company named Koodo in which I shamefully use an Android phone. Horrible experience but that's beside the point, just counting down the days until I can switch back to iPhone.
Anyway not long ago I decided to go to the Koodo website to check out what some people had to say about the iPhone 5 and to my shock the thing was rated something like 2 or 2-1/2 out of 5 stars with about 30 reviews at the time. So I start reading the reviews one by one only to find that most of the reviews were bogus. The 4 or 5 star reviews where of actual iPhone 5 owners and the others were 1 star reviews bashing iPhone for being the same as the previous models and they should instead buy a galaxy s2 which is a better phone. One guy even had the balls to review using a username in the likeness of AndroidUser.
This is just one example of many many websites with the same results. If you want a good chuckle feel free to visit www.Koodomobile.com and read the reviews. It has since balanced out a little bit but still skewed because of the bogus reviews.
These people are either mentally sick or are compensated somehow. My money would be on it's a combination of both. To put so much effort into trying to persuade people to your agenda for a device requires professional help. For a company to do so is not mentally driven but is unethical but what does Samsung know about ethics.
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Originally Posted by GTR
Google's Motto: Don't Be Evil
(Does anybody else snigger whenever they hear that?)
Samsung's Motto: Don't Be Good
Whenever I hear that Google Motto I just add the rest of the line in my head
......because we are enough evil to go around.
No company is perfect, they all have their shameful practices that are either publicly known or unknown, including Apple, but those two companies Google and Samsung play in an elite league.
Consider their phrase. They don't say We're Not Evil or We Don't Do Evil, they simply state Don't Be Evil which is really telling others to not be evil. For example, if Google changed their motto to Don't Be Samsung it wouldn't lose any of the current meaning.
On top of that, this is business and it's hard to see how anything that happens in business is evil. It can certainly be underhanded, unethical and/or illegal, but to be evil evokes more of a spiritual feeling.
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Originally Posted by jungmark
Stay Classy, Sammy.
Impossible.