Ives has become the Elton John of tech, knighthood and all.
(And you all can decide if that's a compliment or a slam.... ...I'm personally withholding judgment until I see the fruits of his new dual role over say, the next two iterations and releases of Apple products.)
Your attitudes are why Apple seems to be in a tailspin right now. Had Tim Cook been able to simply maintain the momentum that was present when Steve Jobs was alive, he'd be a shoo-in for the list.
It's bad enough that the hardware upgrades have slowed to a trickle, but the developments in OS X and iOS, iWork and iLife and improving iCloud all seem to have stalled. We were led to believe that Jobs had left a road map for the next five years. (Perhaps that was a Scott Forstall map that has led the company into the Pacific Ocean!) If Cookie has simply driven the car down that road, he'd be also getting the accolades Ive deservingly got.
Your attitudes are why Apple seems to be in a tailspin right now. Had Tim Cook been able to simply maintain the momentum that was present when Steve Jobs was alive, he'd be a shoo-in for the list.
It's bad enough that the hardware upgrades have slowed to a trickle, but the developments in OS X and iOS, iWork and iLife and improving iCloud all seem to have stalled. We were led to believe that Jobs had left a road map for the next five years. (Perhaps that was a Scott Forstall map that has led the company into the Pacific Ocean!) If Cookie has simply driven the car down that road, he'd be also getting the accolades Ive deservingly got.
^^^ translates to "no new markets have been created in the 1.5 years Cook has been CEO. I remember Jobs creating markets every other month and twice during each Feb during a leap year. "
I've held AAPL since the Gil Amelio days, so I am way ahead, but I am getting some deja vu from how the company is behaving these days. I've heard nothing about OS X 10.9 nor iOS 7 even though OSs are announced many months ahead of their release. If you don't recognize that the pace of innovation of Apple has slowed down, you're either stupid or in denial.
To me, it is just irritating at the moment, but if I don't hear anything in the next month or so, that could turn to anger. I don't want to end up taking the Michael Dell trajectory.
I may have to start deleting posts that just outright lie like this. There's no excuse for it, and they junk up the forum.
Sure is easy to say things when you refuse to pay attention to anything.
By whom? Your own imagination?
Do you have any evidence to support your position? Am I just supposed to concede to you because of your high-falutin' title? Maybe you can write me an angry letter using iWork '09!
I've held AAPL since the Gil Amelio days, so I am way ahead, but I am getting some deja vu from how the company is behaving these days. I've heard nothing about OS X 10.9 nor iOS 7 even though OSs are announced many months ahead of their release. If you don't recognize that the pace of innovation of Apple has slowed down, you're either stupid or in denial.
To me, it is just irritating at the moment, but if I don't hear anything in the next month or so, that could turn to anger. I don't want to end up taking the Michael Dell trajectory.
Just because you haven't heard anything about them doesn't make them non existent. I have not heard anything about your brain but I believe you have one.
Do you have any evidence to support your position?
The sheer number of hardware and software updates since the death of Steve Jobs prove you wrong. Someone posted a list in another thread, but you didn't care enough about them to look at MacTracker or Wikipedia or anywhere before formulating your opinion, so I don't imagine you care enough to go find that, either.
Originally Posted by macFanDave
Name-calling? You are a disgrace! One simply can't discuss anything here, can they?
How is that name-calling? "Poopyhead" is name-calling. You lied, therefore you are a liar. It's a descriptor of your state of being.
Name-calling? You are a disgrace! One simply can't discuss anything here, can they?
Nobody has really refuted my points with any evidence, just a string of insults and nonsense. This place is pathetic.
Were you asleep for the last six months? No one should have to bother to refute you.
The company released more new stuff in the Fall of last year than in any time in their history.
The reason you are being called a liar is because there is no way you could not know about their output of new products last year. I will grant that you could have a problem with perception or memory. If not, then you are telling lies.
The sheer number of hardware and software updates since the death of Steve Jobs prove you wrong. Someone posted a list in another thread, but you didn't care enough about them to look at MacTracker or Wikipedia or anywhere before formulating your opinion, so I don't imagine you care enough to go find that, either.
How is that name-calling? "Poopyhead" is name-calling. You lied, therefore you are a liar. It's a descriptor of your state of being.
That was Slurpy, sometime in the last two weeks, I'd say. I wish our post histories started with our posts, rather than with whom we quote, so macFanDave could look it up easier.
We were led to believe that Jobs had left a road map for the next five years.
By whom? Your own imagination?
He's right that many believe it.
There were primary two sources that were widely quoted suggesting that Jobs left behind a road map.
One was a UK paper. The other was the Jobs biography. Then half the world came out with articles claiming it.
Even Apple Insider repeated people saying so. For example:
Quote:
Munster said he believes Cook will carry out a long-term roadmap that he and Jobs likely jointly established. He thinks that Apple's course for the next five years is probably already plotted internally.
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Did Tim Cook make it?
If not, how did the CEO of the biggest (by market cap) not make it? Gulp!
Originally Posted by macFanDave
If not, how did the CEO of the biggest (by market cap) not make it? Gulp!
Why does he have to be on the 'most influential' list?
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Originally Posted by macFanDave
Did Tim Cook make it?
If not, how did the CEO of the biggest (by market cap) not make it? Gulp!
Apple is no longer the biggest, especially after today and yesterday.
Ives has become the Elton John of tech, knighthood and all.
(And you all can decide if that's a compliment or a slam.... ...I'm personally withholding judgment until I see the fruits of his new dual role over say, the next two iterations and releases of Apple products.)
Guess I was a bit surprised no one from Google was on the list considering the hype around Glass and all...
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I'm sure that Ive deserves to be on that list, but some of the other people on that list are a joke, and I would not exactly call them influential.
No, the others carry influence, if you have a brain tho, their influence doesn't work.
consider Beiber fans...
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Oh-Hyun Kwon joins those business giants.
Ah, that would be the guy they brought in so that Samsung would no longer be associated with that corrupt criminal that was their previous CEO...
Sir Jony... the British are so cool.
Tallest Skil, Apple][ and Rogifan,
Your attitudes are why Apple seems to be in a tailspin right now. Had Tim Cook been able to simply maintain the momentum that was present when Steve Jobs was alive, he'd be a shoo-in for the list.
It's bad enough that the hardware upgrades have slowed to a trickle, but the developments in OS X and iOS, iWork and iLife and improving iCloud all seem to have stalled. We were led to believe that Jobs had left a road map for the next five years. (Perhaps that was a Scott Forstall map that has led the company into the Pacific Ocean!) If Cookie has simply driven the car down that road, he'd be also getting the accolades Ive deservingly got.
Originally Posted by macFanDave
Had Tim Cook been able to simply maintain the momentum…
Except he has.
It's bad enough that the hardware upgrades have slowed to a trickle…
I may have to start deleting posts that just outright lie like this. There's no excuse for it, and they junk up the forum.
…but the developments in OS X and iOS, iWork and iLife and improving iCloud all seem to have stalled.
Sure is easy to say things when you refuse to pay attention to anything.
We were led to believe that Jobs had left a road map for the next five years.
By whom? Your own imagination?
^^^ translates to "no new markets have been created in the 1.5 years Cook has been CEO. I remember Jobs creating markets every other month and twice during each Feb during a leap year. "
Yep, keep it up.
I've held AAPL since the Gil Amelio days, so I am way ahead, but I am getting some deja vu from how the company is behaving these days. I've heard nothing about OS X 10.9 nor iOS 7 even though OSs are announced many months ahead of their release. If you don't recognize that the pace of innovation of Apple has slowed down, you're either stupid or in denial.
To me, it is just irritating at the moment, but if I don't hear anything in the next month or so, that could turn to anger. I don't want to end up taking the Michael Dell trajectory.
Originally Posted by macFanDave
If you don't recognize that the pace of innovation of Apple has slowed down, you're either stupid or in denial.
Or a liar, like you are.
To me, it is just irritating…
Educate yourself and it won't be!
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Except he has.
I may have to start deleting posts that just outright lie like this. There's no excuse for it, and they junk up the forum.
Sure is easy to say things when you refuse to pay attention to anything.
By whom? Your own imagination?
Do you have any evidence to support your position? Am I just supposed to concede to you because of your high-falutin' title? Maybe you can write me an angry letter using iWork '09!
Just because you haven't heard anything about them doesn't make them non existent. I have not heard anything about your brain but I believe you have one.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Or a liar, like you are.
Name-calling? You are a disgrace! One simply can't discuss anything here, can they?
Nobody has really refuted my points with any evidence, just a string of insults and nonsense. This place is pathetic.
Originally Posted by macFanDave
Do you have any evidence to support your position?
The sheer number of hardware and software updates since the death of Steve Jobs prove you wrong. Someone posted a list in another thread, but you didn't care enough about them to look at MacTracker or Wikipedia or anywhere before formulating your opinion, so I don't imagine you care enough to go find that, either.
Originally Posted by macFanDave
Name-calling? You are a disgrace! One simply can't discuss anything here, can they?
How is that name-calling? "Poopyhead" is name-calling. You lied, therefore you are a liar. It's a descriptor of your state of being.
Were you asleep for the last six months? No one should have to bother to refute you.
The company released more new stuff in the Fall of last year than in any time in their history.
The reason you are being called a liar is because there is no way you could not know about their output of new products last year. I will grant that you could have a problem with perception or memory. If not, then you are telling lies.
That was Slurpy, sometime in the last two weeks, I'd say. I wish our post histories started with our posts, rather than with whom we quote, so macFanDave could look it up easier.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
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Originally Posted by macFanDave
We were led to believe that Jobs had left a road map for the next five years.
By whom? Your own imagination?
He's right that many believe it.
There were primary two sources that were widely quoted suggesting that Jobs left behind a road map.
One was a UK paper. The other was the Jobs biography. Then half the world came out with articles claiming it.
Even Apple Insider repeated people saying so. For example:
Quote:
Munster said he believes Cook will carry out a long-term roadmap that he and Jobs likely jointly established. He thinks that Apple's course for the next five years is probably already plotted internally.
Spirit & vision of Steve Jobs will live on at Apple - AppleInsider
OTOH, Jobs also reportedly told Cook not to do what Cook thought Jobs would do, but chart his own course.