Google, Microsoft both post big profit jumps

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  • Reply 41 of 53
    igrivigriv Posts: 1,177member

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    Originally Posted by simtub View Post


    Back in January we bought 6 Windows 8 Pro licenses for the office when Microsoft was doing the introductory offer at 30 something bucks. So far Windows 8 has been refreshing to use, it's quite stable and I'm quite used to the Metro homescreen even though we're not on touchscreen desktops.



    Agreed, it takes a couple of days to get used to. On the other hand, when using windows I spend 99.9% of my time on the desktop, so the metro thing is kind of pointless.

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  • Reply 42 of 53
    igrivigriv Posts: 1,177member

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    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post



    Apparently Microsoft confirmed on their call that cheap Windows 8 tablets are coming soon. So does Apple benefit if Microsoft and Google are in a race to the bottom with tablets?


     


    Since MSFT is not going to give away their OS (unlike Google), cheap means something different.

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  • Reply 43 of 53
    igrivigriv Posts: 1,177member

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    Originally Posted by poksi View Post



    So, at Google:



    - gross margin stumbled

    - nothing but cost-per-click brings money

    - all other projects either fail or bring no money

    - Android brings money to everybody but Google

    - mobile is rising, but earnings there are even thinner

    - having the "biggest mobile share" with Android, yet 75% of Google's profits come from iOS



    however, it's all perfect, as long as your company doesn't have fruity name...



    world is actually ran by a bunch of criminals....


     


    Yes, the anti-Apple cabal is ascendant! Hide your wives, children, and iDevices.

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  • Reply 44 of 53
    igrivigriv Posts: 1,177member

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    Originally Posted by Rayz View Post


    And here's a weird thought:


     


    Microsoft is paid a royalty on every Android device sold. Assuming (and it is a big assumption) that Microsoft charges a different rate depending on the device, does this mean that the only Google and Microsoft know the real breakdown of the Android market?


     


    http://www.livemint.com/Consumer/HEPjPSnpMIJ5T6gj4fQ0SM/FoxConn-to-pay-Microsoft-royalties-for-Android-devices.html



     


    So is Apple, I am pretty sure (paid a royalty).

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  • Reply 45 of 53
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,736member

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    So is Apple, I am pretty sure (paid a royalty).



    It's rumored that HTC pays some per-device royalty to Apple as part of the 10-year settlement of their IP disagreements. Other than that I'm not aware of one.

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  • Reply 46 of 53
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member


    Originally Posted by GTR View Post

    So they're making money, eh?


     


    Shares, prepare to dive, dive, dive!



     


    Yep, it's not as though Apple is the only company held to a double standard or anything¡

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  • Reply 47 of 53
    igrivigriv Posts: 1,177member

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    It's rumored that HTC pays some per-device royalty to Apple as part of the 10-year settlement of their IP disagreements. Other than that I'm not aware of one.



     


    I recall seeing something to the effect that MSFT, AAPL, and Qualcomm make money off every android device sold (and not Google), but I could be wrong. On short notice I could find this:


     


    http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2011/11/04/apple-to-make-billions-on-googles-android/

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  • Reply 48 of 53
    igrivigriv Posts: 1,177member
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  • Reply 49 of 53
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,736member

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    Originally Posted by igriv View Post


     


    I recall seeing something to the effect that MSFT, AAPL, and Qualcomm make money off every android device sold (and not Google), but I could be wrong. On short notice I could find this:


     


    http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2011/11/04/apple-to-make-billions-on-googles-android/



    Nothing there claiming that Android licensees are paying royalties to Apple. I think your link is just the opinion of an investor on how things might play out someday. 

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  • Reply 50 of 53
    mikeb85mikeb85 Posts: 506member

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    Originally Posted by poksi View Post



    So, at Google:



    - gross margin stumbled

    - nothing but cost-per-click brings money

    - all other projects either fail or bring no money

    - Android brings money to everybody but Google

    - mobile is rising, but earnings there are even thinner

    - having the "biggest mobile share" with Android, yet 75% of Google's profits come from iOS



    however, it's all perfect, as long as your company doesn't have fruity name...



    world is actually ran by a bunch of criminals....


     


    Google's revenue was up 31% year over year, and profits up 11%.  Despite all those woes you listed, Google is still growing quite quickly.  


     


    Not perfect, but pretty damn good.  Just because you don't understand finance doesn't mean those smarter than you are 'criminals'...  

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  • Reply 51 of 53
    adamcadamc Posts: 583member
    mikeb85 wrote: »
    Google's revenue was up 31% year over year, and profits up 11%.  Despite all those woes you listed, Google is still growing quite quickly.  

    Not perfect, but pretty damn good.  Just because you don't understand finance doesn't mean those smarter than you are 'criminals'...  

    I believe he is referring to the double standard and not to the financial aspect.

    Furthermore it takes one to know one too.
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  • Reply 52 of 53
    igrivigriv Posts: 1,177member

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    Originally Posted by AdamC View Post





    I believe he is referring to the double standard and not to the financial aspect.



    Furthermore it takes one to know one too.


     


    Takes one what to know one who? 

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  • Reply 53 of 53
    adamcadamc Posts: 583member
    The one who called the kettle black.
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